Cox might being rated too high

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I was listening to the draft show today from yesterday, Dane rated him his 78th player in his top 100, Broaddus thought he should even be lower. They went onto to say they worry about him in the run game and his tackling. For a team that is already bad against the run, Cox might not be the best fit for this team. Most sites have him as a top 50 prospect, but he might be more in that top 75 range.
 
Cowboyny said:
I was listening to the draft show today from yesterday, Dane rated him his 78th player in his top 100, Broaddus thought he should even be lower. They went onto to say they worry about him in the run game and his tackling. For a team that is already bad against the run, Cox might not be the best fit for this team. Most sites have him as a top 50 prospect, but he might be more in that top 75 range.
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On the same podcast BB was very negative on Zaven Collins. “Yeah he can cover and stuff but he looks like DE playing LB.”. That statement is self-refuting.
 
Cowboyny said:
I was listening to the draft show today from yesterday, Dane rated him his 78th player in his top 100, Broaddus thought he should even be lower. They went onto to say they worry about him in the run game and his tackling. For a team that is already bad against the run, Cox might not be the best fit for this team. Most sites have him as a top 50 prospect, but he might be more in that top 75 range.
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I don’t disagree at all. I’m not crazy about the guy. He is solid in coverage but you can get a big safety to do that in the nickel.
 
NFL has him at 64. In all the mock drafts I've done I don't thing I've ever taken him.
 
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On the same podcast BB was very negative on Zaven Collins. “Yeah he can cover and stuff but he looks like DE playing LB.”. That statement is self-refuting.
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I think we are going to see Collins be drafted by one of those hybrid schemes, where he can play multiple roles.
 
Cowboyny said:
I was listening to the draft show today from yesterday, Dane rated him his 78th player in his top 100, Broaddus thought he should even be lower. They went onto to say they worry about him in the run game and his tackling. For a team that is already bad against the run, Cox might not be the best fit for this team. Most sites have him as a top 50 prospect, but he might be more in that top 75 range.
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My concerns exactly...if he had instincts was a good run player he'd be a 1st rounder.
 
Cox is not great against the run, but he's probably the best cover LB in the class (he's more polished in man than Parsons is) and will be playing in a league that passes almost 70% of the time.

I'm fine with him at #44. He could start immediately for us and for a lot of other teams in the league.

Collins is a better run defender than Cox and is 10x better as a blitzer, and he's no slouch in coverage either. I'd rate him above Cox just on a pure talent grade, but fit is big. Collins is best off going to a defense that loves blitzing its LBs like Tampa, New England or Miami. He's a rare talent for those guys, because he could blitz like an extra DE sent up the A gap while also being able to credibly cover. For us though, the LBs are basically box SSs and play a very coverage heavy role. Cox is exactly the kind of SS/LB tweener that Quinn's scheme wants.
 
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Cox is not great against the run, but he's probably the best cover LB in the class (he's more polished in man than Parsons is) and will be playing in a league that passes almost 70% of the time.

I'm fine with him at #44. He could start immediately for us and for a lot of other teams in the league.

Collins is a better run defender than Cox and is 10x better as a blitzer, and he's no slouch in coverage either. I'd rate him above Cox just on a pure talent grade, but fit is big. Collins is best off going to a defense that loves blitzing its LBs like Tampa, New England or Miami. He's a rare talent for those guys, because he could blitz like an extra DE sent up the A gap while also being able to credibly cover. For us though, the LBs are basically box SSs and play a very coverage heavy role. Cox is exactly the kind of SS/LB tweener that Quinn's scheme wants.
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I agree with most of what you're saying, but if our biggest weakness is run defense how can we draft a LBr in the top 50 who's weakness is run defense? Yes, teams throw more now but you gameplan to exploit the opposing D's weakness.

If we were a strong run D team with nasty DTs then it would make more sense but I can't get behind drafting Cox anywhere near the top 50 with our current problems.
 
cnuball21 said:
I agree with most of what you're saying, but if our biggest weakness is run defense how can we draft a LBr in the top 50 who's weakness is run defense? Yes, teams throw more now but you gameplan to exploit the opposing D's weakness.

If we were a strong run D team with nasty DTs then it would make more sense but I can't get behind drafting Cox anywhere near the top 50 with our current problems.
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I like a good chunk of linebackers in this class. You’re right about cox. He’s very good against the pass but our run defense was horrible.

I’m surprised more people don’t want parsons in regards to that. As our run defense was horrendous and he’s one of the best against the run.

I know our pass defense was horrible too so either way we need someone to come in immediately and help this defense.
 
beware_d-ware said:
Cox is not great against the run, but he's probably the best cover LB in the class (he's more polished in man than Parsons is) and will be playing in a league that passes almost 70% of the time.

I'm fine with him at #44. He could start immediately for us and for a lot of other teams in the league.

Collins is a better run defender than Cox and is 10x better as a blitzer, and he's no slouch in coverage either. I'd rate him above Cox just on a pure talent grade, but fit is big. Collins is best off going to a defense that loves blitzing its LBs like Tampa, New England or Miami. He's a rare talent for those guys, because he could blitz like an extra DE sent up the A gap while also being able to credibly cover. For us though, the LBs are basically box SSs and play a very coverage heavy role. Cox is exactly the kind of SS/LB tweener that Quinn's scheme wants.
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Are you counting JOK as a SS?
 
beware_d-ware said:
Cox is not great against the run, but he's probably the best cover LB in the class (he's more polished in man than Parsons is) and will be playing in a league that passes almost 70% of the time.

I'm fine with him at #44. He could start immediately for us and for a lot of other teams in the league.

Collins is a better run defender than Cox and is 10x better as a blitzer, and he's no slouch in coverage either. I'd rate him above Cox just on a pure talent grade, but fit is big. Collins is best off going to a defense that loves blitzing its LBs like Tampa, New England or Miami. He's a rare talent for those guys, because he could blitz like an extra DE sent up the A gap while also being able to credibly cover. For us though, the LBs are basically box SSs and play a very coverage heavy role. Cox is exactly the kind of SS/LB tweener that Quinn's scheme wants.
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For us, Collins projects to LEO.
 
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