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[Nors]

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TOP 25 Pro Prospects For The NFL Draft ’05

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1. * Matt Leinart - QB - 6’5” 220 lbs. - USC
Looks capable of duplicating what Carson Palmer did as a Trojan.


2. Antrel Rolle - CB - 6’1” 200 lbs. - Miam
Talented hard hitting cover man may be the best in this class.


3. David Pollack - DE - 6’2” 270 lbs. - Georgia
Tough playmaker with a great motor.


4. Alex Barron - OT - 6’6” 310 lbs. - Florida St.
Massive hog lineman gets a strong push along the line.


5. * Aarron Rodgers - QB - 6’2” 210 lbs. - Cal
Savvy junior passer shows fast development in all key areas of play.


6. Braylon Edwards - WR - 6’3” 210 lbs. - Michigan
Big play receiver has benefited from his final season.


7. Marcus Spears - DE - 6’4” 295 lbs. - LSU
Tough physical defender will be a fine NFL lineman.


8. Mark Clayton - WR - 5’11” 190 lbs. - Oklahoma
Great playmaker with big play impact ability.


9. Marlin Jackson - CB - 6’1” 190 lbs. - Michigan
Athletically gifted defender has all the skills to become a shutdown pro corner.


10. * Mike Williams - WR - 6’4” 225 lbs. - USC
Talented young receiver will concentrate on getting ready for postseason.


11. Carnell Williams - RB - 5’10” 200 lbs. - Auburn
Quick athletic back has outstanding natural running skills.


12. * Mathias Kiwanuka - DE - 6’8” 250 lbs. - Boston College
Big athletic pass rusher shows impact ability as a sack artist.


13. * Thomas Davis - S - 6’1” 220 lbs. - Georgia
Physical junior safety is a force in just about every game.


14. Erasmus James - DE - 6’4” 260 lbs. - Wisconsin
Athletic defender is a great pass rusher and the fastest rising defender in the nation.


15. Corey Webster - CB - 6’ 200 lbs. - LSU
Well developed cover man carries an early NFL starting grade.


16. Shaun Cody - DT - 6’4” 290 lbs. - USC
Athletic lineman could play inside and outside in the NFL.


17. Derrick Johnson - LB - 6’3” 225 lbs. - Texas
Fast athletic linebacker has outstanding potential but concerns about inconsistencies.


18. Dan Cody - DE - 6’5” 270 lbs. - Oklahoma
Rangy tough defensive end has come up big in key game situations.


19. Kevin Burnett - LB - 6’2” 235 lbs. - Tennessee
Athletic playmaker has developed into a complete defender.


20. * Andrew Whitworth - OT - 6’7” 325 lbs. - LSU
Huge agile junior left tackle has all the skills to become top NFL lineman.


21. * A.J. Hawk - LB - 6’2” 235 lbs. - Ohio St.
Instinctive junior defender has a great nose for the ball.


22. * Eric Henderson - DE - 6’4” 265 lbs. - Georgia Tech
Excellent upfield pass rusher displays big play ability off the edge.


23. Anttaj Hawthorne - DT - 6’3” 310 lbs. - Wisconsin
Big athletic tackle has the tools to be an impact defender.


24. Donte Nicholson - S - 6’2” 210 lbs. - Oklahoma
Crushing tackler has responded in big games.

25. Ron Brown - RB - 5’11” 230 lbs. - Auburn
Tough well rounded back has been a model of consistency over his career

 

[AJM1613]

16. Shaun Cody - DT - 6’4” 290 lbs. - USC
Athletic lineman could play inside and outside in the NFL.


17. Derrick Johnson - LB - 6’3” 225 lbs. - Texas
Fast athletic linebacker has outstanding potential but concerns about inconsistencies.

Am I the only one that sees the problem with this?

 

[Nors]

Am I the only one that sees the problem with this?

Maybe Johnson goes higher - but Lewis was had around #20.

 

[Roughneck]

Maybe Johnson goes higher - but Lewis was had around #20.

Yeah but Lewis (who went 26th) had off the field issues, just like Randy Moss (who went 21st). Derrick Johnson comes from a family full of preachers & teachers and has never had a single off the field problem while he was on the 40. Add that to the fact that DJ has as much upside as any LB drafted in the past decade and he's a guaranteed Top 10 pick (most likely Top 5).

 

[Nors]

Yeah but Lewis (who went 26th) had off the field issues, just like Randy Moss (who went 21st). Derrick Johnson comes from a family full of preachers & teachers and has never had a single off the field problem while he was on the 40. Add that to the fact that DJ has as much upside as any LB drafted in the past decade and he's a guaranteed Top 10 pick (most likely Top 5).

I want the kid and all impact LB's welcome. Either way we may be poised to cash in on him at 5 or 15.

 

[Avery]

The guy is a player and would be a good marketing decision as well because of his Texas roots. With as many forced fumbles as he has created, he would be a difference maker for us.

 

[Nors]

The guy is a player and would be a good marketing decision as well because of his Texas roots. With as many forced fumbles as he has created, he would be a difference maker for us.

PS - iS that an AMC pacer in the background or a Chrysler Conquest?

 

[Kangaroo]

Am I the only one that sees the problem with this?

No this is not a problme

DJ Johnson is a freak of nature of size and speed at LB and he does makes plays but he also has a tendency to over persue and can be had on cut backs etc in the game plan.

I am not saying he does not make plays but the over pursit in the NFL can be magnified more than in college.

That is why he is sitting where he is on the draft charts. How much is that coaching and how much of it is not having great instincts and with Texas history under Mack brown of not getting the most out of his players it maybe coaching.

Just imo on DJ

 

[Roughneck]

No this is not a problme

DJ Johnson is a freak of nature of size and speed at LB and he does makes plays but he also has a tendency to over persue and can be had on cut backs etc in the game plan.

I am not saying he does not make plays but the over pursit in the NFL can be magnified more than in college.

That is why he is sitting where he is on the draft charts. How much is that coaching and how much of it is not having great instincts and with Texas history under Mack brown of not getting the most out of his players it maybe coaching.

Just imo on DJ

I have watched every single play by Texas this year and I can count on one hand the plays where DJ overpursued or was caught out of position. Last year that was a good-sized weakness on his part but I attribute that more to poor coaching by former DC Carl Reese. Ever since Robinson took over though, he has emphasized film study session after film study session to make DJ as intelligent of a player as possible. The dividends have been outstanding, as Derrick (who has always been the emotional leader of the Defense) recognizes many plays almost immediately which has allowed for him, and sometimes his teammates, to be right where he wants to be.