CP3 & Dwight To The Lakers?

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This rumor is picking up speed. I am doubtful that the Lakers get both and I am a Laker fan. However, there are a lot of folks who seem to think that it has a chance to happen. IDK.
 

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I DO know. That it's not happening. The numbers don't work. They could probably pull off a trade for one or the other though.
 

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Temo;4294586 said:
I DO know. That it's not happening. The numbers don't work. They could probably pull off a trade for one or the other though.

I don't think anybody knows. The Lakers are not stupid. They would not be spending resources to try and put a deal together if there were no chance of making it happen. I am confident that they have the resources to do this. I just don't believe that they will be able to because I believe that another team will likely block one or both of the moves by offering more.
 

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MegaMagick;4294083 said:
Paul to the Warriors lookin' likely? Hearing Curry and some other players will be sent to NO for him.

The GS deal is unlikely to happen, unless they are willing to just rent Paul. With only Monta Ellis and David Lee, they are very unlikely to be able to keep Paul long term and w/o that assurance, probably won't pull the trigger.

The Clippers deal as it is now, no Gordon or Jordan isn't very likely either. If they can keep their assets, Paul would likely sign an extension there, but with those 2 guys off the table, any perspective deal is a lot less attractive.

As a Knicks fan, the only team that worries me is the Lakers. If they want him, the have the assets to trade and to keep Paul.
 

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Temo;4294586 said:
I DO know. That it's not happening. The numbers don't work. They could probably pull off a trade for one or the other though.

The Lakers certainly can pull it off. It may not be likely, but it's certainly possible.
 

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The NBA is salivating over a Heatles vs Kobe finals. They will allow whatever it takes to get kobe back to the finals and the ratings up.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;4294431 said:
Brousard is known in nba circles to throw everything against the wall.

You're just mad LeBron ended up going to Miami and not New Jersey, as if it was ever a realistic chance. :D

As for the Lakers, even if they get Dwight they still need a point guard and I don't think Berea is the kind of guy they want.

You want a guy like Goran Dragic. Someone that's going to be able to dish the ball to your scorers in Kobe, Dwight, and maybe Gasol. Not take away touches like CP3. Dragic's also about a 40% 3 point shooter, something the Lakers desperately need.
 

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casmith07;4294694 said:
You're just mad LeBron ended up going to Miami and not New Jersey, as if it was ever a realistic chance. :D

As for the Lakers, even if they get Dwight they still need a point guard and I don't think Berea is the kind of guy they want.

You want a guy like Goran Dragic. Someone that's going to be able to dish the ball to your scorers in Kobe, Dwight, and maybe Gasol. Not take away touches like CP3. Dragic's also about a 40% 3 point shooter, something the Lakers desperately need.


You know, I would actually like to see the Lakers make a play for Brandon Roy rather then Paul. He is a guy who can play either SG or PG and he is an excellent ball handler. If you get a guy like Roy, you can use either Kobe or Roy as the PG and the other as the SG. That brings a lot of pressure to an opposing defense because you can't identify where the offense is going to come from. Roy has had some injury problems but if you share the duties of bringing the ball up the floor with Kobe, you basically take ware and tear of both players and create a nice situation for your offense. Roy doesn't turn the ball over much when he plays PG because he runs a more traditional offense. Portland doesn't really push the ball up the floor much so Roy's TO ratio is good. This is the style that the Lakers will play this season. Up and down is not What I expect to see out of Mike Brown's offense. This style fits Roy perfectly IMO. I think Portland might be willing to consider a trade and I think that Roy would be much cheaper then CP3. I would love to see a lineup with Roy, Howard, Gasol, Kobe and another SF with skills.
 

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ABQ, I agree on Brandon Roy. He would also be asked to do much less in Los Angeles, and even though he's got bad knees it would help to extend his career and take some of the stress off his body.

Roy would make a good point guard too...I think he was more of a point guard coming out of college.
 
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I don't why people are acting like Pau Gasol is weak trading chip. The guy is a top 20 NBA player and a top 5 big man. One bad playoffs doesn't define a player. He had probably the best regular season of his career. He's a great player. There's no better player out there that can be offered. No one realistically anyway.
 

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CP3 is a distributor, I have no idea where you'd get that he'd take away touches.

Dragic would have been a great PG for a triangle, but I thought the Lakers were going to go away from that now.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;4294618 said:
I don't think anybody knows. The Lakers are not stupid. They would not be spending resources to try and put a deal together if there were no chance of making it happen. I am confident that they have the resources to do this. I just don't believe that they will be able to because I believe that another team will likely block one or both of the moves by offering more.

How is this different from what I said? They have the pieces to bid for one guy, but that would leave them short on resources for the other, and someone will top their package. The pieces just don't add up to me.
 

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Temo;4295488 said:
CP3 is a distributor, I have no idea where you'd get that he'd take away touches.

Dragic would have been a great PG for a triangle, but I thought the Lakers were going to go away from that now.

Chris Paul is a Scorer. That is why he said that. The Lakers are not going to need scoring as much as they are going to need a guy who breaks down the defense and creates for his team mates. Williams is much better at that then Paul is IMO but they are both pretty good.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;4295550 said:
Chris Paul is a Scorer. That is why he said that. The Lakers are not going to need scoring as much as they are going to need a guy who breaks down the defense and creates for his team mates. Williams is much better at that then Paul is IMO but they are both pretty good.

Well, what you said was "I DO KNOW."

I said I didn't think that anybody new for sure.

You said the numbers didn't work.

I said the numbers do work to make it possible.

You said they could do one or the other but not both.

I said I doubt other teams would allow them to do both or possibly even one but the Lakers could absolutely pull this off. They have the money and I think that they have some players as well. People are not just talking about this to talk. The Lakers are trying to put something together here.

Can they do it? I don't know but I would not surprised either way.
 
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ABQCOWBOY;4295550 said:
Chris Paul is a Scorer. That is why he said that. The Lakers are not going to need scoring as much as they are going to need a guy who breaks down the defense and creates for his team mates. Williams is much better at that then Paul is IMO but they are both pretty good.

Paul is a great scorer, but he's just as good of a distributor.
 

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I hate the Lakers. Cant wait to see them lose in the first round of the playoffs.
 

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Dallas Cowboys Fan;4295575 said:
Paul is a great scorer, but he's just as good of a distributor.

No, I agree that he is very good at making assists but he has a scoring mentality. Williams is much more of an assist mentality. I think that they are different. Williams fits better but I don't think the Lakers have a chance for Williams. Sounds like hes staying put. Paul is not a bad option though.
 
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jcollins28;4295595 said:
I hate the Lakers. Cant wait to see them lose in the first round of the playoffs.

:lmao2:

Yeah because a team that has Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, and either Pau Gasol or CP3 is gonna lose in the 1st round. :rolleyes:

Even if they don't get CP3 or Dwight which is unlikely they'll get one of them, they still have Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Odom. A few tweaks here in there and that's a championship contender. Last year's playoff loss was a fluke they were just tired from 3 straight Finals. With Chandler likely gone it's hard to see Dallas beating us again and OKC simply doesn't have the bigs to compete with us down low. They have a great player in Durant, but Artest has proven in year's past he can slow him down. Westbrook has been a Lakers killer when going up against Fish, but the Lakers have been able to slow him down by putting Kobe on him.

Heat/Lakers would be a great series. They have the advantage on the perimeter we have the advantage down low. Neither bench is very good. It's a toss up.
 

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Dallas Cowboys Fan;4295614 said:
:lmao2:

Yeah because a team that has Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, and either Pau Gasol or CP3 is gonna lose in the 1st round. :rolleyes:

Even if they don't get CP3 or Dwight which is unlikely they'll get one of them, they still have Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Odom. A few tweaks here in there and that's a championship contender. Last year's playoff loss was a fluke they were just tired from 3 straight Finals. With Chandler likely gone it's hard to see Dallas beating us again and OKC simply doesn't have the bigs to compete with us down low. They have a great player in Durant, but Artest has proven in year's past he can slow him down. Westbrook has been a Lakers killer when going up against Fish, but the Lakers have been able to slow him down by putting Kobe on him.

Heat/Lakers would be a great series. They have the advantage on the perimeter we have the advantage down low. Neither bench is very good. It's a toss up.


Last years playoff loss was a fluke?...ahhh Laker fans.....:rolleyes:
 
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jcollins28;4295636 said:
Last years playoff loss was a fluke?...ahhh Laker fans.....:rolleyes:

Yes it was. How many teams have 3 peated in the last decade. 1 the Lakers in 2002. Guys were tired from 3 straight Finals. Now they've got some great extra rest and you better believe they will be back.
 
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