Crayton Request Release?

blindzebra;3418909 said:
The minute it was said, "With the 24th pick the Cowboys select Dez Bryant WR, Ok St." Crayton was over.

Yeah, I think you're right about that.

It is really looking like Dez could be one of those rare rookie receivers who can step up and make a big impact his first year. If that happens, the Boys will be headed for a Super Bowl at home.

That would be one of the greatest things that ever happened.
 
Eskimo;3418883 said:
I think they are holding onto him to see if a trade opportunity opens up in the preseason. If none does, he serves as insurance through the preseason against injury to any of the top 3. If all are healthy, Crayton will not make the final cut.

I do think he would be traded the moment any opportunity arises, but I don't think him being cut is necessarily a given.

It isn't all about the top three. Dallas has to have a fourth receiver it's comfortable playing in order to cut Crayton. Now, I think the Cowboys have that player in Ogletree, based on his "moments" last year, but a sophomore slump is possible.

Maybe Sam Hurd could be that guy, but since he's never forced himself into the conversation up to now, I don't think so. He's either the fifth receiver or he's gone.

I don't see Dallas relying on Titus Ryan or Manuel Johnson to be the fourth receiver, either, so it's either going to be Ogletree or Crayton.

To sum up: If Crayton is cut, it will be because of Ogletree, not the top three.
 
gimmesix;3418980 said:
I do think he would be traded the moment any opportunity arises, but I don't think him being cut is necessarily a given.

It isn't all about the top three. Dallas has to have a fourth receiver it's comfortable playing in order to cut Crayton. Now, I think the Cowboys have that player in Ogletree, based on his "moments" last year, but a sophomore slump is possible.

Maybe Sam Hurd could be that guy, but since he's never forced himself into the conversation up to now, I don't think so. He's either the fifth receiver or he's gone.

I don't see Dallas relying on Titus Ryan or Manuel Johnson to be the fourth receiver, either, so it's either going to be Ogletree or Crayton.

To sum up: If Crayton is cut, it will be because of Ogletree, not the top three.

I see it slightly differently.

If the top 3 look good, I don't think we will keep Crayton as the #4 as he will be a progresser stopper for KO. However, if one of the top 3 does go down, then Crayton steps up at the #3 and KO is still the #4.
 
nake;3418896 said:
I'm really curious how Ogletree, who caught 7 passes last year, beat out Crayton during the off-season.

One of the sportswriters said Jerry is treating this like the first capped year instead of the first uncapped year, and I think that is about right.

I just really hope we don't end up short an experienced receiver come December and January because of injuries.

I don't think that will happen. We have Ryan. He has some CFL experience. If needed, I think he could get 'er done in a pinch.
 
31 yr old backup WR, getting 2 million to play on a SB contender this year.

Oh, how sad and frustrating that must be. :rolleyes:

Someone cue Staubach's OTA speech.
 
Eskimo;3418988 said:
I see it slightly differently.

If the top 3 look good, I don't think we will keep Crayton as the #4 as he will be a progresser stopper for KO. However, if one of the top 3 does go down, then Crayton steps up at the #3 and KO is still the #4.

Considering I don't believe Ogletree's role will be more than it was last year no matter if we keep Crayton, I don't see Crayton as a progress stopper.

Dallas doesn't use four-receiver sets very often, so Ogletree isn't going to play much this season unless one of the top three falters. This is what Crayton sees. If he's the fourth receiver, how often is he going to get on the field? He is just insurance, and Ogletree will toil in that same shadow this year.

The only way I see Crayton as a progress stopper is if one of the younger receivers plays well enough to earn a roster spot, but Dallas keeps Crayton instead.

That being said, I still see Crayton being gone IF Dallas believes Ogletree can handle the No. 3 role. Ogletree becomes the insurance, giving the Cowboys less reason to hold on to a veteran who essentially doesn't want to be here.
 
Weird thing, was just on a certain social networking site and noticed some very recent pictures of the Cowboys' charity basketball team. They must've had another "Old School vs New School" game as there were a lot of old-timers in the shots.

Noticed Crayton was there along with many members of the team; 'Tellus, Choice, Watkins, Spears, Dez, and others.

You can tell it's recent, though, because Scandrick's there and his hand is all wrapped up.

It may mean absolutely nothing, but would it be wrong to take it as a sign that Crayton is not as dead set as being a distraction as so many would like to think?
 
nake;3418896 said:
I'm really curious how Ogletree, who caught 7 passes last year, beat out Crayton during the off-season.

One of the sportswriters said Jerry is treating this like the first capped year instead of the first uncapped year, and I think that is about right.

I just really hope we don't end up short an experienced receiver come December and January because of injuries.

Could be because the Cowboys strength and conditioning coach said Ogletree improved more than any other player this off-season.

Or it could be because Ogletree is younger by 8 years..., much, much faster, taller and cheaper.

Jerry (Stephen) is being very smart about the cap.
You cut guys now when you don't eat cap hits then you are in great cap shape going forward.
 
gimmesix;3420194 said:
Considering I don't believe Ogletree's role will be more than it was last year no matter if we keep Crayton, I don't see Crayton as a progress stopper.

Dallas doesn't use four-receiver sets very often, so Ogletree isn't going to play much this season unless one of the top three falters. This is what Crayton sees. If he's the fourth receiver, how often is he going to get on the field? He is just insurance, and Ogletree will toil in that same shadow this year.

The only way I see Crayton as a progress stopper is if one of the younger receivers plays well enough to earn a roster spot, but Dallas keeps Crayton instead.

That being said, I still see Crayton being gone IF Dallas believes Ogletree can handle the No. 3 role. Ogletree becomes the insurance, giving the Cowboys less reason to hold on to a veteran who essentially doesn't want to be here.

Your logic here makes no sense at all.

a) If Crayton is on the field he will be on the field at the expense of a younger player because he is the Cowboys oldest WR.

b) Any player pushed off the roster because of Crayton would again be much younger than him.

c) With Ogletree, Holley, Manny Johnson and Titus Ryan all fighting for the last few spots it's clear Crayton would be a progress stopper for someone. Romo is a progress stopper for McGee as well so it isn't saying that's always bad but if a guy is limited to 40 catches and 600 yards then maybe it isn't best to let him impede younger guys with higher ceilings.
 
Crayton was a progress stopper for Stanback. As it turns out, that wasn't such a bad deal.
 
jterrell;3420304 said:
Your logic here makes no sense at all.

a) If Crayton is on the field he will be on the field at the expense of a younger player because he is the Cowboys oldest WR.

b) Any player pushed off the roster because of Crayton would again be much younger than him.

c) With Ogletree, Holley, Manny Johnson and Titus Ryan all fighting for the last few spots it's clear Crayton would be a progress stopper for someone. Romo is a progress stopper for McGee as well so it isn't saying that's always bad but if a guy is limited to 40 catches and 600 yards then maybe it isn't best to let him impede younger guys with higher ceilings.

Huh? I said if any of the younger guys prove worth keeping (other than Ogletree) then Crayton's a progress stopper if he's kept over them. But they have to prove worth keeping or there's no progress to be stopped, in that case.

As far as Crayton being on the field, how many opportunities do you think he or Ogletree is going to get? The reason Crayton would be kept is for insurance, not to play on Sundays. He might not even be active for games because he has no special teams value with Bryant set to return punts. Ogletree covers kicks, so he'll be on the active roster. (Crayton is this year's Montrae Holland.)

Age has little to do with stopping progress. If he steals deserved playing time from Ogletree or a deserved roster spot from a fifth- or sixth-receiver prospect, then he's stopping progress. If nothing is deserved, then nothing should be received (which is one of the purposes of competition).
 
I have zero animosity against Crayton and totally understand his point. However, this is business and the Cowboys should hold on to him at least until they know for sure what they have in the new/young guys.

If Dez and OT are what I think they are, I have no problem cutting Patrick loose.

I also could see Hurd being released if one of the other guys can fill his ST role. I met Sam and his wife once and I really like him a lot but, again, business is business.
 

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