Crayton Reverses - good thing or not?

LarryCanadian

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This seems to be a staple play in our offensive playbook, at least in the pre-season.

Is it to keep teams on their toes? Are we setting up teams for something different (fake reverses) later in real season?

Crayton is pretty strong and ok YAC, but he is no juker/burner.

I think it is mostly re-direction, but I'd rather have Felix touch it one or two more times on a pitch or screen.

I don't know the numbers but neither TO and now Crayton don't seem to get a ton yards on these reverses. Although I think they are only in there to keep the defenses honest. I just think Felix scares people into being even more honest! Imagine if he goes out to chip block and you don't keep an eye on him after the chip. Open field just means the afterburner gets ignited for Felix.

So why do we have the Crayton reverse in the playbook and should the team scrap it and focus on Felix and M Bennett instead, or is it a useful play?

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those reverses are going to work only if Pat throws the ball once in a while
 

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LarryCanadian;2908480 said:
This seems to be a staple play in our offensive playbook, at least in the pre-season.

Is it to keep teams on their toes? Are we setting up teams for something different (fake reverses) later in real season?

Crayton is pretty strong and ok YAC, but he is no juker/burner.

I think it is mostly re-direction, but I'd rather have Felix touch it one or two more times on a pitch or screen.

I don't know the numbers but neither TO and now Crayton don't seem to get a ton yards on these reverses. Although I think they are only in there to keep the defenses honest. I just think Felix scares people into being even more honest! Imagine if he goes out to chip block and you don't keep an eye on him after the chip. Open field just means the afterburner gets ignited for Felix.

So why do we have the Crayton reverse in the playbook and should the team scrap it and focus on Felix and M Bennett instead, or is it a useful play?

LarryCanadian

I would take no option off the table including running a reverse with Crayton. You don't have to throw one out to do the other.
 

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They faked the reverse to TO quite a bit last season, letting him run it once in a while. Probably just Crayton taking that role now.
 

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Reverses are all about execution and vision. Crayton seems to execute them fine and I believe he has good vision.
 

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I don't like it personally: but if Austin ran it: or Felix, then heck yeah. Crayton is just too slow IMO.............
 

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newlander;2908591 said:
I don't like it personally: but if Austin ran it: or Felix, then heck yeah. Crayton is just too slow IMO.............

Definetely your opinion because it hasn't shown up on the field.

It's been a success in the pre-season and I think they are obviously setting up a pass with it because of Craytons QB skills.
 

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One issue with preseason is that while both sides are usually bland and basic, the players tend to guess as to what side is doing. So it can be hard to run the ball if linebackers and safeties are creeping to the side they believe the ball is going to be ran towards. And it can be hard to set up a blitz if the offense knows exactly where the blitz is coming from. So occasionally you'll see teams throw in a little twist so they can keep the opposing team semi-honest and then get a better evaluation of players and playcalls.




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I remember when we used to do the same thing with Keyshawn. Why in the **** would a team be threatened by Keyshawn Johnson running a reverse? I don't get it lol.
 

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Don't be surprised if we pull an Okie Doke and have PC throw the ball
 

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It does force the backside to stay honest. If nothing else, maybe there is a second's pause because the DE/OLB is thinking about it.
 

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LarryCanadian;2908480 said:
This seems to be a staple play in our offensive playbook, at least in the pre-season.

Is it to keep teams on their toes? Are we setting up teams for something different (fake reverses) later in real season?

Crayton is pretty strong and ok YAC, but he is no juker/burner.

I think it is mostly re-direction, but I'd rather have Felix touch it one or two more times on a pitch or screen.

I don't know the numbers but neither TO and now Crayton don't seem to get a ton yards on these reverses. Although I think they are only in there to keep the defenses honest. I just think Felix scares people into being even more honest! Imagine if he goes out to chip block and you don't keep an eye on him after the chip. Open field just means the afterburner gets ignited for Felix.

So why do we have the Crayton reverse in the playbook and should the team scrap it and focus on Felix and M Bennett instead, or is it a useful play?

LarryCanadian

I havent read any other responses yet, but I bet they're all the same.

We're using Crayton on end arounds because we're setting it up for a WR pass later on in the season.
 

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I'll take the hit on that one: I forgot, he was a QB in college. But don't you think other teams realize that? I'd rather have Romo throwing the ball. Although if we could burn a divisional opponent with this play and actually win the game.........that WOULD BE SWEET...............BTW: I would expect Philly and Vick to roll it out too and why not? It works.............................
 

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I don't think he's running "reverses", I think they are actually "end arounds". But I like it since he's been making some decent gains with them.
 

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fortdick;2908718 said:
It does force the backside to stay honest. If nothing else, maybe there is a second's pause because the DE/OLB is thinking about it.

And that's a big benefit many don't seem to consider.

Beyond that, Patrick Crayton picks up positive yards when he does run the ball on a reverse and there is the potential for him to pass the ball (I don't really trust his decision making).

But we want defenses to see Crayton on film and consider all the possibilities bringing him in motion to the backfield allows for.
 

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fortdick;2908718 said:
It does force the backside to stay honest. If nothing else, maybe there is a second's pause because the DE/OLB is thinking about it.
that is why we run it. no doubt in my mind. Slowing backside pursuits allows Marion and Felix to make moves at or behind the LOS.
 
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