Crossing routes or lack thereof?

[birdwells1]

I seriously need a question answered, it seems to me the best way to beat man coverage is to run crossing routes or routes that have sharp cuts in them? If this is true why are Dez, TWill and Brice Butler running go routes all the time.

 

[John813]

It's a process.

Felt like Bease should of been involved more, as he is a tough son of a gun to cover one on one. I could understand Brice getting the Go routes, but Dez can't get separation running in a straight line. Give him more slants, or quick passes where he could get some YAC

 

[Brooksey]

We pass when teams show run and run when teams show pass, that's what we do. We don't change our routes for anyone and we won't be starting any time soon. We play an Air Coryell system from the late 70's and we're pretty proud of it.

 

[Shinaoi]

I think that's been an issue for longer than just yesterday. I actually like dink and dunk style of football, but it needs to be mixed with screens, bootlegs, options, slants and crossings.

 

[TheCount]

I seriously need a question answered, it seems to me the best way to beat man coverage is to run crossing routes or routes that have sharp cuts in them? If this is true why are Dez, TWill and Brice Butler running go routes all the time.

Haha, my hatred for the Go Routes is well documented but if you're looking for an actual "answer":

The idea is that Dez, Williams, and Butler are expected to put pressure on the secondary deep so that Beasley and Witten can word the middle of the field.

That's the theory anyway.

 

[jazzcat22]

They do not us enough crossing routes nor slants and should with Dez.

Actually they need a speed deep threat WR. They do not, or more like cannot go downfield enough.

I am already starting to look at what WR's we can get in the draft next year. for this. Actually try Noah Brown, he is not an all world speedster, but he knew how to get open down field hi college. Get him some experience to see if he can in the NFL.

 

[CF74]

They don't run crossing routes in Tecmo Bowl for $500 Alex?

 

[Doomsday]

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Haha, my hatred for the Go Routes is well documented but if you're looking for an actual "answer":

The idea is that Dez, Williams, and Butler are expected to put pressure on the secondary deep so that Beasley and Witten can word the middle of the field.

That's the theory anyway.

Pretty much every one is running basically 2 routes. Go or stop routes on the outside and ins and outs on the inside.

Seems like 80% of the time Beasley is running an out route.

They threw 2 quick slants to Dez one for a first down and the other for 8 yards. Never saw it again all day.

They also never seem to use their 2nd TE on anything but flat routes. The whole middle of the field is pretty much uncontested.

 

[TheCount]

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Pretty much every one is running basically 2 routes. Go or stop routes on the outside and ins and outs on the inside.

Seems like 80% of the time Beasley is running an out route.

They threw 2 quick slants to Dez one for a first down and the other for 8 yards. Never saw it again all day.

They also never seem to use their 2nd TE on anything but flat routes. The whole middle of the field is pretty much uncontested.

Don't even get me started, man.

Our passing game is so juvenile that it's unbelieveable they've been as productive as they've been at all.

As far as Beasley, I think most of his routes are option routes, so he's free to run either the in or out based on the look he gets.

See's us get spanked on pivot routes repeatedly was almost funny because it's another simple route option that we never bother employing.

I was even shocked to see us employ a hurry-up offense early because even that shows a level of creativity I didn't know existed on this staff.

 

[Carson]

We cannot run them because we'd get a phantom offensive PI call every time

 

[Hoofbite]

Don't even get me started, man.

Our passing game is so juvenile that it's unbelieveable they've been as productive as they've been at all.

As far as Beasley, I think most of his routes are option routes, so he's free to run either the in or out based on the look he gets.

See's us get spanked on pivot routes repeatedly was almost funny because it's another simple route option that we never bother employing.

I was even shocked to see us employ a hurry-up offense early because even that shows a level of creativity I didn't know existed on this staff.

Creative for most, perhaps. For Dallas, I believe it's counter productive. Dallas is built for ball control and grinding their opponent down. Built for forcing the opponent to play at Dallas' speed.

I don't care for the hurry-up for this team unless it is needed. You need a QB who can put the team on his back to start a game with a hurry up or no huddle offense. Which teams have successfully orchestrated that approach in recent years? The teams with top flight QBs. Dak is not there. Not right now. He's more of a game manager at this point and he's done an excellent job playing that role thus far into his career.

 

[MagicMan]

exactly, crossing routes and man in motion can cross up man to man.....unfortunately, we don't have an imaginative offensive game plan set up and easy to defend man to man. and like I said before Dez is determined to hand fight cornerbacks rather than get open and I think that is why Dak hates throwing to Dez. A good speed burning WR is also needed on this team to open up the field as well.

 

[Gameover]

We pass when teams show run and run when teams show pass, that's what we do. We don't change our routes for anyone and we won't be starting any time soon. We play an Air Coryell system from the late 70's and we're pretty proud of it.

Meanwhile, the Patriots are scheming guys open all over the field!

 

[NeonNinja]

Yeah, this has been a problem under JG. Zero creativity.

 

[khiladi]

Dallas was trying to attack deep when they had no running game.

Even with Romo, they ran primarily go routes. In 2014, both Dez and TWill were in the top 3 for go routes among WR, while being in the bottom in pass attempts.

That's the first year we really had some success offensively, because our OL was finally good and Murray was a great back. We still though were bottom of the league in play action.

Until Dak shows he can throw the ball deep, teams are probably gonna follow the Denver blueprint.

 

[TheCount]

Creative for most, perhaps. For Dallas, I believe it's counter productive. Dallas is built for ball control and grinding their opponent down. Built for forcing the opponent to play at Dallas' speed.

I don't care for the hurry-up for this team unless it is needed. You need a QB who can put the team on his back to start a game with a hurry up or no huddle offense. Which teams have successfully orchestrated that approach in recent years? The teams with top flight QBs. Dak is not there. Not right now. He's more of a game manager at this point and he's done an excellent job playing that role thus far into his career.

I don't think we are a "no huddle" team, but I also don't think there's any one definition for it.

You can run no huddle and not speed the game up, or you can run it like it's a 2-minute offense.

 

[Hoofbite]

I don't think we are a "no huddle" team, but I also don't think there's any one definition for it.

You can run no huddle and not speed the game up, or you can run it like it's a 2-minute offense.

That is true.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

This offensive team is hampered by our coaching staff. Players change. HC philosophy remains the same. It's the same every year. They try and make this team the 90s cowboys (ie out execute ur man and who cares if they know what you're going to run) and refuse to hybridize it with today's model. It can only get us so far. Never to the SB. Not with today's model of NFL football teams we play against. Not a chance.

As for the defense side of the ball... if we had close to the 90s cowboys d we would be better off but you can't spend all your money on both offense and defense like the 90s anymore. You have to pick one. Cowboys picked offense. It's not working. At best it gets us two deep in playoffs but never nfc championship games. And that's with someone like Romo playing for as long as he did and given a chance to master the game. Think about that. Brady with this team would never have gotten that far because of our HC philosophy.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Our offense lacks creativity.