Culpepper and Simms

[dbair1967]

and to think there are dozens of people in this forum that thought we should get one of these guys...this is from CNN/Si and Don Banks:

Miami's latest post-Dan Marino hopeful, Daunte Culpepper, absorbed five first-half sacks, fumbled twice and threw an inexcusably horrid interception at the Buffalo 7. He finished with seven sacks and that interception, and was roundly booed in the fourth quarter of the Dolphins' 16-6 loss to the Bills. He has thrown just one touchdown pass this season, and don't forget, Miami's offense was facing a Bills defense that started two rookie safeties in Donte Whitner and Ko Simpson.

Coming on the heels of his shaky fourth quarter in the Fish's opener at Pittsburgh -- and for that matter, his woeful seven-game season in 2005 -- you have to question if Culpepper is approaching a crisis in confidence.

Unsurprisingly given their quarterback's desultory start, the supposed Super Bowl-contending Dolphins are 0-2 and already in a hole. I wonder if anybody in Miami is pining for Jay Fiedler?

• Tampa Bay's Chris Simms threw three more interceptions this week, giving him six in his first two games. One of those came at the Atlanta 1, blunting one of the Bucs' few scoring chances so far this season. Another Simms pick, returned for a touchdown by defensive back Kevin Mathis, was reversed via instant replay challenge.

Tampa Bay has scored all of three points in losing its opening two games by a combined 41-3 to the Ravens and Falcons. Suddenly the 0-2 Bucs look like a 2005 fluke who have no chance of defending their NFC South title this year, and Simms is bearing the brunt of Tampa Bay's offensive power outage.

 

[Unforgiven]

Culpepper should be on a short leash. They have a guy on their roster, Joey Harrington, who is actually a higher pick than Culpepper, and really looked good in preseason. Harrington may end up being the big suprise in Miami, just needing a change of scenery. Culpepper was not playing well when he got hurt last year. He gets off the hook because of his injury. No one remembers how bad he looked prior to the injury. He looks exactly like that now.

The Buccaneers have no one else to play QB. I will never understand why they didn't resign Greise. Simms is not ready yet. I expect the "Favre to Tampa" rumors to start up again today.

 

[Muhast]

i have a feeling eventually culpepper will turn it around.

He's almost like julius, he's either great or horrible

 

[dbair1967]

He's almost like julius, he's either great or horrible

sorry, but Julius is pretty damn consistent...if you want to say he is either amazing or above average I'd buy that, but the guy gets 70-80-90 yds almost every time he starts, and he scatteres in the 149+ yd games as well

David

 

[wileedog]

i have a feeling eventually culpepper will turn it around.

He's almost like julius, he's either great or horrible

Culpepper is terrible. He never had to learn to read a defense because 80% of his plays when he came into the league were "throw it up for Moss." He's stunk ever since.

The only thing worse is the media bandwagon that jumped on Miami when they got this guy and started predicting Superbowl. Ridiculous.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

You guys do realize C-Pep is coming off a serious injury? Not to mention that O-line he has in front of him. Give him some time he will turn it around with the Dolphins (most likely next year when they have more talent).

 

[Doomsday101]

I would not waste my time on Culpepper and neither did the vikes. Brad Johnson may not have the big arm but he has played good solid ball since he took over the vikes from Culpepper.

 

[lspain1]

I don't think Culpepper is surrounded by great talent, but he isn't making good decisions either. I think they'll be patient with him a bit longer to see if he can turn it around. He'll get a couple more games and if they don't see any better they'll try Harrington.

Chris Simms looks really bad and nothing is going right for him.

 

[kmd24]

Honestly, the Dolphins should consider trading Culpepper to the Raiders for Porter and a draft pick. It would make both teams so much better.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

I don't think Culpepper is surrounded by great talent, but he isn't making good decisions either. I think they'll be patient with him a bit longer to see if he can turn it around. He'll get a couple more games and if they don't see any better they'll try Harrington.

Chris Simms looks really bad and nothing is going right for him.

Joking right? Culpepper will be their main man all season long lol. Hes made some bad decisions but I think he will overcome them down the road. Definately not a win now team in Miami. Still building...

 

[Doomsday101]

Joking right? Culpepper will be their main man all season long lol. Hes made some bad decisions but I think he will overcome them down the road. Definately not a win now team in Miami. Still building...

Man you come down on Bledsoe but give a free pass to Culpepper who has looked like a complete amature both last season in Minn and now in Miami?

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Man you come down on Bledsoe but give a free pass to Culpepper who has looked like a complete amature both last season in Minn and now in Miami?

I dont come down on Bledsoe like most around here. I like Drew . Anyways I think Culpepper will turn around at some point. Did you blame Bledsoe for the 2 sacks last week or the O-line?

 

[Duane]

Culpepper is a joke. Tell me what he's done without Randy Moss to throw to? Nadda as far as I can see.

And that stupid "get your roll on" thing he does drives me crazy. I'm counting down the seconds until EA pulls that add because he's so bad.

 

[Doomsday101]

I dont come down on Bledsoe like most around here. I like Drew . Anyways I think Culpepper will turn around at some point. Did you blame Bledsoe for the 2 sacks last week or the O-line?

I blamed Bledsoe on having a bad game last week with no excuses such as a phantom injury. I think Drew deserved the heat he took last week and think he deserves a lot of credit this week after dealing with all that was being said during the week. Bledsoe entered this game with a lot of pressure on him to produce and came through. As for Culpepper chances are he will get another opportunity in Miami but I think his days are numbered. He looked poor last year and looks just as poor this year

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Culpepper is a joke. Tell me what he's done without Randy Moss to throw to? Nadda as far as I can see.

Umm throw 39 Touchdowns 4700 Yards and a completion % of 69%... Almost win the MVP. Moss was also injured for some games that year. He passed for 4000 yards to other receivers than Moss. I dont care what you say but those numbers are fantastic, and a guy just doesnt lose it overnight.

 

[Doomsday101]

Culpepper is a joke. Tell me what he's done without Randy Moss to throw to? Nadda as far as I can see.

And that stupid "get your roll on" thing he does drives me crazy. I'm counting down the seconds until EA pulls that add because he's so bad.

I agree and yet Brad Johnson has taken the same talent and has helped produce wins in Minn.

 

[lspain1]

Umm throw 39 Touchdowns 4700 Yards and a completion % of 69%... Almost win the MVP. Moss was also injured for some games that year. He passed for 4000 yards to other receivers than Moss. I dont care what you say but those numbers are fantastic, and a guy just doesnt lose it overnight.

My comments on Culpepper were aimed at the situation in Miami as it stands right now. Culpepper does not have the weapons to win it himself so he must make good decisions for the Dolphins to win. In two games he has not done that, hurting his team. I think if that continues, Saban will have no choice but to make some sort of move to try Harrington to see if he can improve it. I wasn't implying Harrington was better, just that losing a lot of games early will bring a lot of pressure to try some new things.

 

[InmanRoshi]

And let's not forget about all the kudos people were handing out to the Dolphins and Skins for picking up two big name offensive coordinators. So far, both offenses have looked utterly putrid. Turns out you can't change offenses like spark plugs.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

My comments on Culpepper were aimed at the situation in Miami as it stands right now. Culpepper does not have the weapons to win it himself so he must make good decisions for the Dolphins to win. In two games he has not done that, hurting his team. I think if that continues, Saban will have no choice but to make some sort of move to try Harrington to see if he can improve it. I wasn't implying Harrington was better, just that losing a lot of games early will bring a lot of pressure to try some new things.

You make good points but I just dont see that happening. The Dolphins are not in a win now mode and have no pressure on them to make a big run at the playoffs. This team is just beginning the Saban Era and they knew what they were getting with Culpepper when they got him. Somewhat damaged goods with the injury and the 20+ pounds that he dropped. I didnt watch the game but his passing numbers werent that bad and again they do have a god awful O-line.

 

[Idgit]

Joking right? Culpepper will be their main man all season long lol. Hes made some bad decisions but I think he will overcome them down the road. Definately not a win now team in Miami. Still building...

Baby Fingers is all done. Next?
To the poster who's comparing him to Julius, that's probably the weirdest comparison ever.