D Magazine article on Zeke-Thompson relationship

[erod]

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburn...even-a-liar-can-be-beaten-and-choked/?ref=mpw

This was an ugly, disturbing relationship between two ugly and disturbing people.

Whatever the outcome, my respect for Zeke is deteriorating rapidly. He seems like an alcoholic with severe anger issues.

Urban Meyer said he's been worried about Zeke's drinking for some time, and even confronted him and his father about it while at Ohio State.

If Zeke doesn't get help, this is going to be a very short career.

 

[Reality]

I didn't read the whole thing because you can tell it's yet another "she said it, so it must be true because you can't prove it's not true" article.

That said, I did skim over it and this is from the police report ..

When they both woke up, around 3 or 4 p.m., after sleeping in on Sunday, July 17, Thompson says everything was “perfectly fine.” They went about their day, but Elliott still wouldn’t let Thompson leave. She says she asked multiple times, but he wouldn’t let her take any of her belongings.

On Sunday night, Thompson says, Elliott had plans to go to a bar with his friends and she had plans with her friends. She says Elliott left first, so he left his house keys with her. She ended up staying out later than he did, so it appears that when he returned to the apartment, he was locked out.

So, he wouldn't let her leave or take her belongings on Sunday, July 17th. Yet, that same evening, she said they had separate plans, so Elliott gave her his house keys and left before her.

How is that keeping someone against their will?

 

[Diehardblues]

Say its not so.

Thanks for sharing E.

 

[beacamdim]

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburn...even-a-liar-can-be-beaten-and-choked/?ref=mpw

This was an ugly, disturbing relationship between two ugly and disturbing people.

Whatever the outcome, my respect for Zeke is deteriorating rapidly. He seems like an alcoholic with severe anger issues.

Urban Meyer said he's been worried about Zeke's drinking for some time, and even confronted him and his father about it while at Ohio State.

If Zeke doesn't get help, this is going to be a very short career.

This is very disturbing. And very sad.

They both need help, separate and apart from the whole NFL thing.

No winners here.

 

[Denim Chicken]

This article is nothing new--all information is from the 77 page police report that was/is available on Dead-spin.

The only thing this incredibly bias article accomplishes is to gloss over all of the evidence that is contrary to Tiffany's claim and focus on her account of the events.

At the end, the author concludes that she agrees with Tiffany because her written and recorded statement are consistent (why would they not be when taken within hours of each other--not to mention Elliot's statements were consistent as well, plus he has witnesses on his side) and that that her account falls into some DV pattern (scary black man hurts meek white woman?).

 

[RJ_MacReady]

The only thing this incredibly bias article accomplishes is to gloss over all of the evidence that is contrary to Tiffany's claim and focus on her account of the events.

BINGO!

 

[Reality]

To be clear, I always want to believe any woman who claims she is a victim of domestic violence, because most of the time, it's true and it takes a lot of courage to overcome that and speak out about it. I think many people like myself have had someone in their lives affected by domestic violence. When it happens, you do not expect the details from the accuser to be perfect nor do you expect there to always be clear evidence proving the accusations. What do you expect is for the accuser to not show ulterior motives while making those claims, and in this case, those motives are abundant.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Zeke has the same problems the forefathers of this country had. B b but he needs help

 

[robjay04]

Good read.

Violence may have happened, it may even be likely but the punishment is not consistent with similar punishments considering the lack of proof and a credible witness.

That is what all of this is about.

 

[links18]

This kind of thing is one reason why Zeke's advisors might eventually tell him to drop it, seek contrition and hope to rehabilitate your image going forward. Maybe after the suspensions gets reduced......How much longer are they going to want the media attention on this to go on? Regardless of whether or not he is guilty of X or Y, the media fiasco is a separate issue. They can go after her credibility and character all they want, but there is nothing stopping the reverse from happening also.

 

[adbutcher]

I didn't read the whole thing because you can tell it's yet another "she said it, so it must be true because you can't prove it's not true" article.

That said, I did skim over it and this is from the police report ..

So, he wouldn't let her leave or take her belongings on Sunday, July 17th. Yet, that same evening, she said they had separate plans, so Elliott gave her his house keys and left before her.

How is that keeping someone against their will?

It is mind boggling that anyone would give her the benefit of doubt. The frog cannot fault the scorpion for being a scorpion.

 

[DFWJC]

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburn...even-a-liar-can-be-beaten-and-choked/?ref=mpw

This was an ugly, disturbing relationship between two ugly and disturbing people.

Whatever the outcome, my respect for Zeke is deteriorating rapidly. He seems like an alcoholic with severe anger issues.

Urban Meyer said he's been worried about Zeke's drinking for some time, and even confronted him and his father about it while at Ohio State.

If Zeke doesn't get help, this is going to be a very short career.

It does make me question things more.

Keep in mind though that writer here has been an attorney who represented women filing abise complaints. The writer leans to her side by default. May be right, may be wrong. Also, almost all the accounts are from Thompsons perspective.

All along, Ive said we dont know for what happened....that she almost certainly is a low life, skank, liar...but that does mot at all mean she wasnt abused.

This whole thing sucks

 

[CaptainCreed]

This kind of thing is one reason why Zeke's advisors might eventually tell him to drop it, seek contrition and hope to rehabilitate your image going forward. Maybe after the suspensions gets reduced......How much longer are they going to want the media attention on this to go on? Regardless of whether or not he is guilty of X or Y, the media fiasco is a separate issue. They can go after her credibility and character all they want, but there is nothing stopping the reverse from happening also.

Exactly, this was the risk of the appeal all along. Everything is going to become public knowledge, again (much of this leaked last summer), and neither side is going to look pretty. Jerry, Zeke, NFLPA, and crew better be confident Zeke is 100% innocent in this. Already looks ugly.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

What respect did you have to begin with? He's just a guy (dare I say kid?) who plays football professionally. He's not a world renown scientist or humanitarian that I'm aware of.

I guess the real question is, what is your definition of respect?

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburn...even-a-liar-can-be-beaten-and-choked/?ref=mpw

This was an ugly, disturbing relationship between two ugly and disturbing people.

Whatever the outcome, my respect for Zeke is deteriorating rapidly. He seems like an alcoholic with severe anger issues.

Urban Meyer said he's been worried about Zeke's drinking for some time, and even confronted him and his father about it while at Ohio State.

If Zeke doesn't get help, this is going to be a very short career.

 

[Idgit]

It's actually good to see the detail all in one place.

Her actual description of their relationship in the report and what's described in the text exchanges don't match very closely. Every witness corroborates what Elliott says, and the quote he uses to imply Elliott is lying actually suggests he was telling the truth re how he saw their relationship.

As for her telling of events, disturbing if true. Very difficult to consider it truth given the tonal inconsistencies, the way her actions didn't match her words, her expressed willingness to lie and her stated intention to ruin his career. If she's telling the truth, it sucks for her because she absolutely trashed her credibility to the point she can't be taken seriously.

 

[Plumfool]

The issue is she's not just a liar. And there's evidence that suggests that he actually didn't do it.

 

[tyke1doe]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again:
The threats and extortion attempts by Thompson makes me doubt her claims.

However, you can tell a person's character by the people who they keep company, the woman they date, etc.

There's a reason some guys gravitate to certain women and other guys get the wholesome good girls. There's a reason why some guys find themselves in extortion situations and others don't.

Zeke needs to take a serious look at himself, his choices and the company he keeps as well as the women he selects as partners - temporary or long term. If he doesn't make better decisions, he'll find himself in this situation or a similar situation again.

 

[trickblue]

This article is nothing new--all information is from the 77 page police report that was/is available on Dead-spin.

The only thing this incredibly bias article accomplishes is to gloss over all of the evidence that is contrary to Tiffany's claim and focus on her account of the events.

At the end, the author concludes that she agrees with Tiffany because her written and recorded statement are consistent (why would they not be when taken within hours of each other--not to mention Elliot's statements were consistent as well, plus he has witnesses on his side) and that that her account falls into some DV pattern (scary black man hurts meek white woman?).

It's D Magazine. Throw in Dallas Observer (not even counting Texas Monthly, Dallas Morning News and Ft. Worth Star Telegram) and you'll rarely get a positive take on anything about the Cowboys on a non-football related level...

 

[Philmonroe]

To be clear, I always want to believe any woman who claims she is a victim of domestic violence, because most of the time, it's true and it takes a lot of courage to overcome that and speak out about it. I think many people like myself have had someone in their lives affected by domestic violence. When it happens, you do not expect the details from the accuser to be perfect nor do you expect there to always be clear evidence proving the accusations. What do you expect is for the accuser to not show ulterior motives while making those claims, and in this case, those motives are abundant.

People want to believe DV victims and I agree but when you add fame and money into the equation it isn't the same as some random working a 9to5 imo. In the case with someone that isn't famous there really isn't anything to be gained by lying on them. In cases like this there is. That doesn't mean everyone is lying that says someone famous hit them but I'm not as quick to think it's as open and shut as with a regular person. The info on this case doesn't help also. This strong guy beat you every other day for about a week and that's all you got to show for it that's a pretty tame beating. I'm not saying he couldn't do it but when you think of dv don't most of us think of people angered and out of control? If that's the case that's the worse she got doesn't match with at least my stereotype of dv.

 

[Denim Chicken]

It's actually good to see the detail all in one place.

Actually this is lacking detail. It only rehashes Tiffany account to police (no evidence is presented).

My running list:

• Signed Affidavit from Ayrian Mason (accusers friend) stating no DV occurred on July 22nd, Tiffany was in a fight with another female earlier in the night, & than Tiffany told her she was going to “ruin his career”

• Text messages between Tiffany & Ayrian where Tiffany asked Ayrian to lie about events on the 22nd.

• Signed Affidavit from Kenny Alvarado (security manager at club) stating he witnessed Tiffany and another woman fighting “punching each other and pulling each other’s hair” on July 21st.

• Signed Affidavit from Kerry Cibulskas (off duty police officer) stating he witnessed Tiffany and another woman fighting pulling each other’s hair with one hand and swinging with the other on July 21st.

• Signed Affidavit from Brian Keefe (off duty police officer) stating he witnessed Tiffany and another woman fighting & states “several punches were thrown”.

• Signed Affidavit from Bijan Moazampour stating no DV occurred on July 22nd

• Signed Affidavit from Taylor Sandbothe (designated driver) stating no DV occurred on July 22nd & Tiffany had no visible bruises earlier in the night and Zeke had told he that Tiffany had been threatening him.

• Signed Affidavit from Dylan Minney (mutual friend?) stating no DV occurred on July 22nd & that Tiffany asked him to lie to the police.

• Signed Affidavit from Chiedu Bosah (Zeke classmate) stating we was with Tiffany & Zeke on July 20nd & that there were no viable bruises on Tiffany and everyone was getting along.

• Signed Affidavit from Matthew White stating we was with Tiffany at a pool party on July 19th & she had no visible injuries despite her being in a bra and panties only.

• Signed Affidavit from Alverez Jackson stating no DV witnessed on July 16th, July 17th, July 20th or July 22nd & that Tiffany was “yelling that she was going to ruin {Zeke’s} career”.

• Elliot filed an incent report against Tiffany on September 5th for: Receiving 50 + phone calls in an 8 hour period & hacking into his email account where she found is contracts phone numbers and called then to leave “untruthful things that can hurt his image.”

• Tiffany admitted to a text exchange in which she discussed leveraging sex videos featuring her and Elliott for money from the player.

• Per NFL docs, investigator Lisa Friel advised that during the investigation they were “unable to give a clear endorsement of Thompson’s credibility because she repeatedly misled investigators.”

Lists of threats from Tiffany against Elliot:

• After being told Elliott didn’t want her at his house on July 21 and he didn’t want her coming out with him, Thompson responded with: “Ok this is what you want? Ok then, I’m going to ruin your life. You will see. If I was you, I wouldn’t go out tonight.”

• After being told she couldn’t come Elliott’s 21st birthday party, Thompson told him “that’s worst decision you made in your life. I’m going to ruin your life now.”

• The report also details a text message in which Thompson told Elliott: “You better be smart. And not be a dumb man.”

• After not being allowed in the after party, she was heard yelling and screaming that “your career is over” and then proceeded to call the police.

• Elliott is also “100 percent certain” Thompson told him on July 22, “You are a black male athlete. I’m a white girl. They are not going to be believe you.”