Dak - a balanced thread

[FLCowboyFan]

I've watched the agendas on here saying Dak sucks so bad he should have never been drafted. Then others say he is the best in stats or whatever.

As a fan I'd love him to be the absolute best but he isn't. But he is far from the worst. What he is, is a QB that hasn't figured it all out yet and may not ever do so or he may become a SB QB

The reality is that none of us really know. What we know is that as fans we want and need him to get better every year to get to where we all want to get. Nobody will win the discussion now because the future has yet to be written. Let's cross our fingers that he develops and takes us to the promise land while we treat each other with respect.

 

[Mr_437]

Just improve every offseason.

 

[GenoT]

A balanced Dak thread...??!?

Not for long...

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

I've watched the agendas on here saying Dak sucks so bad he should have never been drafted. Then others say he is the best in stats or whatever.

As a fan I'd love him to be the absolute best but he isn't. But he is far from the worst. What he is, is a QB that hasn't figured it all out yet and may not ever do so or he may become a SB QB

The reality is that none of us really know. What we know is that as fans we want and need him to get better every year to get to where we all want to get. Nobody will win the discussion now because the future has yet to be written. Let's cross our fingers that he develops and takes us to the promise land while we treat each other with respect.

So it begins . Another thread that will soon go off the rails on page one.

 

[nobody]

Just improve every offseason.

That's what I am hoping for and expect.

 

[Pantone282C]

So intriguing, so infuriating.

 

[Whyjerry]

Let me try to push this sucker off the rails. Dak haters are idiots. Guy has been an absolute steal of a 4th rounder. Has been a starter ever since. 25 years old. Arrow is pointing up. Is he Tom Brady? Probably not and that is ok.

 

[Risen Star]

Let's stop the fan boy nonsense. This is the Dallas Cowboys. Some of you are just too young to know what that used to mean.

QB is the premier position in all of sports. The Dallas Cowboys are supposed to be the premier franchise in football. The fact that the Cowboys would now look for a new franchise QB and settle on a stiff like Dak Prescott should sicken anyone with an ounce of credibility as a fan. All I read over and over is what he can't do and how that's okay we can work around that. What the hell kind of plan is that for the Dallas Cowboys in search of their franchise QB? That's Cincinnati Bengals thinking. I don't want a guy who can't do things. I don't want to settle at the position. That shouldn't be plan A. I want a real talent who allows you to get by at other positions not other positions allowing them to get by at his own. I don't want a college offense. I want a real QB who can play real pro football.

We are already saddled with the worst Owner and GM in sports, a complete fraud at Director of Personnel and a weak Head Coach. The thought of being okay with adding a mediocre at best QB to that mix is baffling to me.

Why? Just cause Go Cowboys! and stuff?

You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

I repeat - You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

If for whatever reason Dak Prescott is on your roster and your starter goes down, then you look to get by and tailor a gimmick offense around him and his lack of any talent. Then it makes sense to read the things I read about him every day. Well, they just mean until our starter gets back. But to watch him play for three years and think this is the guy you want under center for the next 10 years as the future of our offense is an opinion I just can't take seriously.

A QB who can't throw the football.

The Dallas bleepin Cowboys.

Thank God Tom Landry isn't around to see this.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I've watched the agendas on here saying Dak sucks so bad he should have never been drafted. Then others say he is the best in stats or whatever.

As a fan I'd love him to be the absolute best but he isn't. But he is far from the worst. What he is, is a QB that hasn't figured it all out yet and may not ever do so or he may become a SB QB

The reality is that none of us really know. What we know is that as fans we want and need him to get better every year to get to where we all want to get. Nobody will win the discussion now because the future has yet to be written. Let's cross our fingers that he develops and takes us to the promise land while we treat each other with respect.

I will say this for Dak.
He is a healthy player. Always healthy. Such a change from the Romo M*A*S*H unit years.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

He has a clean slate as far as I am concerned. This should be a prove it year for both Dak and Garrett.

 

[Verdict]

Let's stop the fan boy nonsense. This is the Dallas Cowboys. Some of you are just too young to know what that used to mean.

QB is the premier position in all of sports. The Dallas Cowboys are supposed to be the premier franchise in football. The fact that the Cowboys would now look for a new franchise QB and settle on a stiff like Dak Prescott should sicken anyone with an ounce of credibility as a fan. All I read over and over is what he can't do and how that's okay we can work around that. What the hell kind of plan is that for the Dallas Cowboys in search of their franchise QB? That's Cincinnati Bengals thinking. I don't want a guy who can't do things. I don't want to settle at the position. That shouldn't be plan A. I want a real talent who allows you to get by at other positions not other positions allowing them to get by at his own. I don't want a college offense. I want a real QB who can play real pro football.

We are already saddled with the worst Owner and GM in sports, a complete fraud at Director of Personnel and a weak Head Coach. The thought of being okay with adding a mediocre at best QB to that mix is baffling to me.

Why? Just cause Go Cowboys! and stuff?

You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

I repeat - You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

If for whatever reason Dak Prescott is on your roster and your starter goes down, then you look to get by and tailor a gimmick offense around him and his lack of any talent. Then it makes sense to read the things I read about him every day. Well, they just mean until our starter gets back. But to watch him play for three years and think this is the guy you want under center for the next 10 years as the future of our offense is an opinion I just can't take seriously.

A QB who can't throw the football.

The Dallas bleepin Cowboys.

Thank God Tom Landry isn't around to see this.

It obvious that you hate the Dak pick, and that's ok. But some perspective is in order. Dak was drafted to backup Tony Romo, and that's all. When he was drafted he was supposed to be a developmental QB (3rd QB), but he was obviously thrust into the starting spot and exceeded draft expectations exponentially.

A huge part of Dak's success was the OL and the running game. That's ok too.

Dak seems to have intangibles and a good arm. He seems slow in terms of processing the game and recognition. He also had a horrible OC. How much of Dak's issues are Dak and how much of it are the other things are the subject of legitimate debate.

I agree that right now, the TEAM will have to carry Dak more often than vice versa. Dak isn't at the top of the QB list but he's not at the bottom either. I would put him in the 8-15!range, and that's quite a disparity from the top to the bottom.

The problem is that in that same draft Goff and Wentz are both starting to show warts and they were drafted WAY before Dak. You may be proven right and Dak may never win us anything. On the other hand franchise QBs don't grow on trees. There are only about 4 or 5 QBs who can carry a team, and one of them (Brady) played pretty poorly in the SB.

I am against the team paying dak $30m per year but that may be what happens. If so it's going to be harder to make excuses for Dak.

 

[Kaiser]

Is he Tom Brady? Probably not and that is ok.

Exactly, he isn't Tom Brady but several hundred QBs have been drafted after Brady that aren't either.

Prescott is already average or better, which is significant for a third year QB. He has real leadership skills and the physical skills to develop into an upper teir QB. And the fact we didn't have to trade away half of two drafts to get him improves the odds that this (still young) team can win a Championship.

 

[Whyjerry]

Let's stop the fan boy nonsense. This is the Dallas Cowboys. Some of you are just too young to know what that used to mean.

QB is the premier position in all of sports. The Dallas Cowboys are supposed to be the premier franchise in football. The fact that the Cowboys would now look for a new franchise QB and settle on a stiff like Dak Prescott should sicken anyone with an ounce of credibility as a fan. All I read over and over is what he can't do and how that's okay we can work around that. What the hell kind of plan is that for the Dallas Cowboys in search of their franchise QB? That's Cincinnati Bengals thinking. I don't want a guy who can't do things. I don't want to settle at the position. That shouldn't be plan A. I want a real talent who allows you to get by at other positions not other positions allowing them to get by at his own. I don't want a college offense. I want a real QB who can play real pro football.

We are already saddled with the worst Owner and GM in sports, a complete fraud at Director of Personnel and a weak Head Coach. The thought of being okay with adding a mediocre at best QB to that mix is baffling to me.

Why? Just cause Go Cowboys! and stuff?

You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

I repeat - You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

If for whatever reason Dak Prescott is on your roster and your starter goes down, then you look to get by and tailor a gimmick offense around him and his lack of any talent. Then it makes sense to read the things I read about him every day. Well, they just mean until our starter gets back. But to watch him play for three years and think this is the guy you want under center for the next 10 years as the future of our offense is an opinion I just can't take seriously.

A QB who can't throw the football.

The Dallas bleepin Cowboys.

Thank God Tom Landry isn't around to see this.

Nice career for a guy that can’t throw a football.

 

[RodeoJake]

It obvious that you hate the Dak pick, and that's ok. But some perspective is in order. Dak was drafted to backup Tony Romo, and that's all. When he was drafted he was supposed to be a developmental QB (3rd QB), but he was obviously thrust into the starting spot and exceeded draft expectations exponentially.

A huge part of Dak's success was the OL and the running game. That's ok too.

Dak seems to have intangibles and a good arm. He seems slow in terms of processing the game and recognition. He also had a horrible OC. How much of Dak's issues are Dak and how much of it are the other things are the subject of legitimate debate.

I agree that right now, the TEAM will have to carry Dak more often than vice versa. Dak isn't at the top of the QB list but he's not at the bottom either. I would put him in the 8-15!range, and that's quite a disparity from the top to the bottom.

The problem is that in that same draft Goff and Wentz are both starting to show warts and they were drafted WAY before Dak. You may be proven right and Dak may never win us anything. On the other hand franchise QBs don't grow on trees. There are only about 4 or 5 QBs who can carry a team, and one of them (Brady) played pretty poorly in the SB.

I am against the team paying dak $30m per year but that may be what happens. If so it's going to be harder to make excuses for Dak.

Imo, this is an honest evaluation of Dak. He's not elite, but he doesn't need to be to get us to the super bowl. He showed improvement this season, but still has a ways to go reading defenses and anticipating receivers coming open. He needs to run more. When he does, it softens the defense. He could be our QB for years to come, but I do believe he needs competition.

 

[Jimbo69]

I really hope we are not having this debate every year of dak's tenure at the Cowboys. I fear we will.

 

[Rockport]

So it begins . Another thread that will soon go off the rails on page one.

Every day there’s a few and like you said they always end up with the same group of haters taking over and crapping all over Dak and any other member of the organization that comes up in the conversation.

 

[sunalsorises]

Look at the Super Bowl. I think most will agree that Goff is a more accurate QB than Dak and the Rams offense is more dynamic than the Cowboys offense and they couldn't get into the red zone. Ultimately, they settled for 3 points and another missed field goal. Dak has had similar performances against lesser competition in lesser games. That being said, I honestly doubt Dallas would have been kept out of the end zone in that Super Bowl with Dak at QB.

 

[Dodger12]

I've watched the agendas on here saying Dak sucks so bad he should have never been drafted.

Show me on post that said Dak should have never been drafted. Just one and I'll wait. No one argued that Dak shouldn't have been drafted. On the contrary, that's probably the one thing most will agree on. Dak was drafted where he should have been drafted and he was a decent 4th round pick as a developmental guy who could fill in when your starter goes down. The problem with all these Dak threads is that there very foundation starts off with the wrong premise, just like the very first sentence in your post.

We can have a "healthy" discussion about Dak but it's going to devolve pretty quick because we've become "settlers." We've settled at the GM position and accepted it; we've settled on Director of Personnel and accepted it; we've settled at the HC position and we've accepted it. Now we've settled at the OC position and not only have we accepted it, but we defend it and even try to justify it. Same with Dak. We can and should be looking for better. But we've settled on being above .500, "winning" seasons and the occasional playoff birth as our new barometer of success.

 

[ItzKelz]

Let me try to push this sucker off the rails. Dak haters are idiots. Guy has been an absolute steal of a 4th rounder. Has been a starter ever since. 25 years old. Arrow is pointing up. Is he Tom Brady? Probably not and that is ok.

Tom Brady wasnt Tom Brady after 3 seasons.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Let's stop the fan boy nonsense. This is the Dallas Cowboys. Some of you are just too young to know what that used to mean.

QB is the premier position in all of sports. The Dallas Cowboys are supposed to be the premier franchise in football. The fact that the Cowboys would now look for a new franchise QB and settle on a stiff like Dak Prescott should sicken anyone with an ounce of credibility as a fan. All I read over and over is what he can't do and how that's okay we can work around that. What the hell kind of plan is that for the Dallas Cowboys in search of their franchise QB? That's Cincinnati Bengals thinking. I don't want a guy who can't do things. I don't want to settle at the position. That shouldn't be plan A. I want a real talent who allows you to get by at other positions not other positions allowing them to get by at his own. I don't want a college offense. I want a real QB who can play real pro football.

We are already saddled with the worst Owner and GM in sports, a complete fraud at Director of Personnel and a weak Head Coach. The thought of being okay with adding a mediocre at best QB to that mix is baffling to me.

Why? Just cause Go Cowboys! and stuff?

You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

I repeat - You are supporting a QB who can't throw the football.

If for whatever reason Dak Prescott is on your roster and your starter goes down, then you look to get by and tailor a gimmick offense around him and his lack of any talent. Then it makes sense to read the things I read about him every day. Well, they just mean until our starter gets back. But to watch him play for three years and think this is the guy you want under center for the next 10 years as the future of our offense is an opinion I just can't take seriously.

A QB who can't throw the football.

The Dallas bleepin Cowboys.

Thank God Tom Landry isn't around to see this.

How old are you to be bringing Landry up? 40s? 50s? 60s? Either way, since we are talking about Dak, no other Cowboys QB has started his first 3 years as good as Dak has. That's a fact. That's not good enough for you? Dak's numbers are better than Goff's and Wince's, yet you would rather take them over Dak? But you want to give advice about nonsense? SMH