Dak has a chance to break into the Top 4

[shabazz]

After Fernando Mendozas recent performance I think its safe to say that Rayne just got pushed down one more click on the QB hierarchy.

Just Tom Bradys opinion so take it up with the GOAT.

 

[GINeric]

With a heaping helping of garbage time stats this season he could even gain the top spot!!!

What other quarterbacks have a garbage stat count or have grabbed the top spot with garbage time stats?

I only ask because I have never heard the term "garbage time stats" used until Dak came into the league. What other quarterbacks get this specific stat?

 

[G2]

What other quarterbacks have a garbage stat count or have grabbed the top spot with garbage time stats?

I only ask because I have never heard the term "garbage time stats" used until Dak came into the league. What other quarterbacks get this specific stat?

Because it's not a real statistics. WAYYYYYYY too opinion based.

 

[Rockport]

Because it's not a real statistics. WAYYYYYYY too opinion based.

There is no Garbage Time statistic. Maybe stick with Taco Bell.

 

[zrinkill]

There is no Garbage Time statistic.

 

[G2]

There is no Garbage Time statistic. Maybe stick with Taco Bell.

That's literally what I said.

 

[Rockport]

That's literally what I said.

Ok.

 

[zrinkill]

That's literally what I said.

He does not actually read posts ...... just gets ready to say "hater"

 

[StarLord]

Superbowl titles are team accomplishments.

Are you saying that any quarterback who hasn't been part of a team winning Superbowls are losers? Im not assuming, im just asking.

If you are a QB and you cannot ever get your team to the Superbowl, then yes, you're a loser.

And I say with Tony Romo as one of my favorite players of the last 20 years. Ultimately, he's a loser who couldn't cut it.

 

[Vtwin]

Because it's not a real statistics. WAYYYYYYY too opinion based.

Technically true that an official stat is not kept, at least to the best of my knowledge, but it is most definitely also true that garbage time is a thing and teams play differently in garbage time. Here's an excerpt from an article from PFF.

. Trailing in the fourth quarter – Take a look at our first chart. Notice how high the fourth quarter pass rates are when teams are trailing. And it’s not just in blowouts either. Teams down by one-to-three points throw 69 percent of the time. Down 14-to-20 points, teams throw a whopping 85 percent of the time.
https://www.pff.com/news/defining-garbage-time

Come on man. At least make an effort.

 

[G2]

Technically true that an official stat is not kept, at least to the best of my knowledge.

Correct.

 

[Vtwin]

Correct.

The rest is also correct.

Embarrassing behavior.

 

[G2]

The rest is also correct.

Embarrassing behavior.

I believe you.

 

[GINeric]

If you are a QB and you cannot ever get your team to the Superbowl, then yes, you're a loser.

And I say with Tony Romo as one of my favorite players of the last 20 years. Ultimately, he's a loser who couldn't cut it.

Thats an interesting way of thinking because there are quarterbacks who helped teams win a Superbowl and will never make it to the HOF......

Yet Dan Fouts and Warren Moon are in the HOF and they never played in a Superbowl.

How in the world can Hall of Famers ever be considered a loser?

 

[GINeric]

Maybe you can help us out here. What other quarterbacks have garbage time stats? Ive only heard that term applied to one quarterback. Surely that one quarterback couldn't possibly be the only quarterback with these "garbage time" stats, correct?

 

[zrinkill]

Maybe you can help us out here. What other quarterbacks have garbage time stats? Ive only heard that term applied to one quarterback. Surely that one quarterback couldn't possibly be the only quarterback with these "garbage time" stats, correct?

All QB's have garbage stats .......... when they freeze up in the first half of games and let the other team get up by 3 or 4 scores ........ then the other D goes in "prevent"

But you and that clown Rockport already know that ........ you just pretend not too.

 

[Chasing6]

Yes but I meant for his legacy. This QB ranking stuff don't matter. You might want to read my post before that one.

It all comes down to a team accomplishment at the end of the year.

 

[Xizor]

It all comes down to a team accomplishment at the end of the year.

Dude do you even know the topic of this post like ***. We are talking about rankings of QB here and since you seem to be lazy here is what I posted before.

"To be fair, none of this matters. Dak knows it. Us fans know it. He knows all he needs is a Super Bowl win to change the mantra on him. His stats are elite. He just hasn't succeeded in the big games. When he finally wins one and Allen doesn't, he passes him. He wins two he might go to the Hall of Fame or Ring of Honor but if he doesn't then it will be he was just an ok quarterback who was a good leader."

Here is the OP post

"So here's how I see things:

Tier 1 is currently agreed upon mostly as Mahomes, Allen, Stafford, and Burrow. It's hard for Dak to dent the positions that Mahomes, Allen, and Stafford hold. All 3 have MVPs and 2 out of 3 has a Super Bowl. The only one of those without a Super Bowl has been in the playoffs for 7 straight years.

However, if Dak has a banner year (upwards 39+++ Touchdowns) - and if some of his counterparts have a bad year, spot #4 is not totally firm. It can move around fast, and Dak is a threat to take it.

Right now Dak is in Tier 2...... #5-8 with Lamar, Goff, and Herbert. Guys who are very good at what they do but not consistently so. And they go on and off with making the playoffs. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't. Only 10 playoff wins combined among the 4 for an average of 2.5 playoff wins per each of those QBs."

So while you are right about team matters it has nothing to do with the topic of this post. It is about how Dak is perceived currently and my point is none of this really matters and it will take a Super Bowl win to change his legacy or even how he is currently perceived. I posted the Stafford thing to remind people that once Stafford was thought same was as Dak at one time but now that he has won a Super Bowl he is thought of as top 5 QB this year.

Welcome to this post my god.

 

[GINeric]

All QB's have garbage stats .......... when they freeze up in the first half of games and let the other team get up by 3 or 4 scores ........ then the other D goes in "prevent"

But you and that clown Rockport already know that ........ you just pretend not too.

What other quarterbacks have you heard of with their names attached to "garbage time stats" other than Dak? That's all im saying.

 

[Bigrandrn]

So here's how I see things:

Tier 1 is currently agreed upon mostly as Mahomes, Allen, Stafford, and Burrow. It's hard for Dak to dent the positions that Mahomes, Allen, and Stafford hold. All 3 have MVPs and 2 out of 3 has a Super Bowl. The only one of those without a Super Bowl has been in the playoffs for 7 straight years.

However, if Dak has a banner year (upwards 39+++ Touchdowns) - and if some of his counterparts have a bad year, spot #4 is not totally firm. It can move around fast, and Dak is a threat to take it.

Right now Dak is in Tier 2...... #5-8 with Lamar, Goff, and Herbert. Guys who are very good at what they do but not consistently so. And they go on and off with making the playoffs. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't. Only 10 playoff wins combined among the 4 for an average of 2.5 playoff wins per each of those QBs.

He’s had a couple seasons where he either led the league in TDs or he was like top 4. He was 36-9 TD-pick in 2023 (led league) and 37-10 TD-pick in 2021 (tied #4)…..#4 in TD in 2025 with 30. When healthy for the season, throws for 4500 yards, completion percentage around 68. That’s better than MOST qb when u look at everyone. I’m glad we have him and aren’t one of these other teams with average or poor qb play….