Dak haters turn away

At the end of the day, the only stat that matters in sports is the win-loss record. And Prescott has a good amount of wins on his resume, including postseason.
Wentz has yet to take a snap in postseason. :laugh:
 
How does Jerry convince his agent to take less than 30 million a season?


Sidenote: whatever this formula is trying to predict, it's extraordinarily inaccurate. Tom Brady has been overwhelmingly the best QB in the world in the last 10 years. Brees has been great, Rodgers, has been great, Peyton, yeah yeah. But go back and look at his 2010. His 2011. His 2017.

This ranks him 12th. The best decade of the best quarterback in NFL history isn't even top 10 in his own era. Say that out loud.

"CPOE is also probably capturing the ability to execute a system efficiently. A quarterback who understands how each piece of the offense complements the others and constrains the opposing defense is a huge asset for his team"

Kurt Cousins is twice as good as Tom Brady.
 
Oh_Canada said:


Seventh in completion percentage over expected.
The youngest in the top ten.
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Dak and his check-down BS stats.....as Dak only cares about keeping this miracle Job with his very limited skills!
23 rd in passing and 26th in the Red Zone...when it counts all he does is throw a 4 yard pass when its 3rd and 12......opps almost forgot he also runs like a panic driven deer in the headlights!
 
Direwolf63 said:
So Dak is better than Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.

And Jamesis Winston is better than Brady.

Got it.
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I missed the part of the OP post where he said Dak was better than anyone.
It seems he is saying Dak has a better completion percentage with some strange stat.
Its weird to put words in someone elses mouth in order to dispute their post.

So what if Dak is #7 in this 1 statistical catagory?
 
PAPPYDOG said:
Dak and his check-down BS stats.....as Dak only cares about keeping this miracle Job with his very limited skills!
23 rd in passing and 26th in the Red Zone...when it counts all he does is throw a 4 yard pass when its 3rd and 12......opps almost forgot he also runs like a panic driven deer in the headlights!
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The irony of basing a weird stat that Dak excels in while in the same time pulling even weirder stats from some dark and smelly place and using them as proof.

Did you even feel it?
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
How does Jerry convince his agent to take less than 30 million a season?


Sidenote: whatever this formula is trying to predict, it's extraordinarily inaccurate. Tom Brady has been overwhelmingly the best QB in the world in the last 10 years. Brees has been great, Rodgers, has been great, Peyton, yeah yeah. But go back and look at his 2010. His 2011. His 2017.

This ranks him 12th. The best decade of the best quarterback in NFL history isn't even top 10 in his own era. Say that out loud.

"CPOE is also probably capturing the ability to execute a system efficiently. A quarterback who understands how each piece of the offense complements the others and constrains the opposing defense is a huge asset for his team"

Kurt Cousins is twice as good as Tom Brady.
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J Winston being better was all I needed to know about this method.
 
charron said:
Just goes to show you stats have little meaning without more context. Saying Dak is better than brady or rivers is complete BS.
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Where did the OP say Dak was better than either Brady or Rivers?
Either I missed that part or you added it to make it more comfortable for you to debate it.

Its a weird stat I get it.
But why pretend the OP made any conclusions about any QB in their entirety?
 
daboyzruleperiod said:
At the end of the day, the only stat that matters in sports is the win-loss record. And Prescott has a good amount of wins on his resume, including postseason.
Wentz has yet to take a snap in postseason. :laugh:
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It's a team sport so W/L used to determine an INDIVIDUALS worth is silly. Yes, individual performance can influence the W/L in a team sport, but likewise when there are a significant number of horrible individual performances on the same team, no amount of individual achievement can overcome that. Look at Dan Marino. Not a single Superbowl win for perhaps the most prolific passer ever in the league.
My point is this, #4 is (imo) the weak link in this team (on offense). He doesn't have a W/L record, the team does.
 
Boyzmamacita said:
Pardon my ignorance, but what does the graphic mean? Statistics was never my best subject.
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It's a so-called "Next Gen Stat" called "Completion Percentage Over Expectation" that the NFL is pimping these days. It's based on the premise that not all passes are created equal: some are more difficult to complete than others, giving them a lower "Completion Probability". Completion Probability is calculated using a complex mathematical model that looks at a bunch of factors, including:
  • how far the QB was from the receiver at the time of releasing the ball
  • how far the pass travelled through the air
  • how much separation (in yards) the receiver had at the time of release
  • how much separation the receiver had at the time of the catch
  • how close the nearest pass rusher was when the QB released the ball
  • how fast the QB was moving (i.e. whether he was on the run) when he threw the ball
By calculating (using the complex model) the Completion Probability of each throw a QB makes, they get to an Expected Completion Percentage for each QB. A higher Expected Completion Percentage means that the QB has a propensity to throw easier passes; conversely, a lower Expected Completion Percentage indicates that the QB tends to throw harder passes. Supposedly, Brees has a propensity to throw the easiest passes in the league (he doesn't really move from the pocket, throws passes that travel shorter distances through the air, has receivers that get more separation, typically doesn't have pass rushers in his face, etc.)

To get to Completion Percentage Over Expectation you simply compare a QB's actual Completion Percentage to his Expected Completion Percentage. So the graphic is showing you, for example, that Brees (who typically has among the highest Completion Percentages in the league) is completing 6.4% more passes than might be expected (his Expected Completion Percentage) based on the model.

I personally don't have a ton of time for this stuff, because it's just too complicated for me to have any confidence that's it's free from error (how are we getting accurate readings on all the various factors (including those listed above and more -- there are supposedly 10 factors they look at) that supposedly go into Completion Probability?).
 
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