Dak in perspective

[JoeyBoy718]

Was just curious to see how Dak compared to other rookie QBs throughout recent history. Other than RG3 and Russell Wilson and Big Ben, it's really not even close. Here are some of the top and most notable rookies dating back to Peyton Manning's rookie year of 1998. It's sorted by QB rating. Cowboys are bolded.

Dak Prescott - 2016 - 451 attempts - 68.1% - 3630 yards - 8.0 average - 23 TDs - 4 INTs - 105.6 rating
Robert Griffin - 2012 - 393 attempts - 65.6% - 3200 yards - 8.1 average - 20 TDs - 5 INTs - 102.4 rating
Russell Wilson - 2012 - 393 attempts - 64.1% - 3118 yards - 7.9 average - 26 TDs - 10 INTs - 100.0 rating
Ben Roethlisberger - 2004 - 295 attempts - 66.4% - 2621 yards - 8.9 average - 17 TDs - 11 INTs - 98.1 rating
Marcus Mariota - 2015 - 370 attempts - 62.2% - 2818 yards - 7.6 average - 19 TDs - 10 INTs - 91.5 rating
Matt Ryan - 2008 - 434 attempts - 61.1% - 3440 yards - 7.9 average - 16 TDs - 11 INTs - 87.7 rating
Teddy Bridgewater - 2014 - 402 attempts - 64.4% - 2919 yards - 7.3 average - 14 TDs - 12 INTs - 85.2 rating
Cam Newton - 2011 - 517 attempts - 60.0% - 4051 yards - 7.8 average - 21 TDs - 17 INTs - 84.5 rating
Jameis Winston - 2015 - 535 attempts - 58.3% - 4042 yards - 7.6 average - 22 TDs - 15 INTs - 84.2 rating
Mike Glennon - 2013 - 416 attempts - 59.4% - 2608 yards - 6.3 average - 19 TDs - 9 INTs - 83.9 rating
Charlie Batch - 1998 - 303 attempts - 57.1% - 2178 yards - 7.2 average - 11 TDs - 6 INTs - 83.5 rating
Andy Dalton - 2011 - 516 attempts - 58.1% - 3398 yards - 6.6 average - 20 TDs - 13 INTs - 80.4 rating
Joe Flacco - 2008 - 428 attempts - 60.0% - 2971 yards - 6.9 average - 14 TDs - 12 INTs - 80.3 rating
Carson Wentz - 2016 - 564 attempts - 62.4% - 3537 yards - 6.3 average - 14 TDs - 14 INTs - 78.2 rating
Derek Carr - 2014 - 599 attempts - 58.1% - 3270 yards - 5.5 average - 21 TDs - 12 INTs - 76.6 rating
Andrew Luck - 2012 - 627 attempts - 54.1% - 4374 yards - 7.0 average - 23 TDs - 18 INTs - 76.5 rating
Sam Bradford - 2010 - 590 attempts - 60.0% - 3512 yards - 6.0 average - 18 TDs - 15 INTs - 76.5 rating
Matt Leinart - 2006 - 377 attempts - 56.8% - 2547 yards - 6.8 average - 11 TDs - 12 INTs - 74.0 rating
Byron Leftwich - 2003 - 418 attempts - 57.2% - 2819 yards - 6.7 average - 14 TDs - 16 INTs - 73.0 rating
Peyton Manning - 1998 - 575 attempts - 56.7% - 3739 yards - 6.5 average - 26 TDs - 28 INTs - 71.2 rating
Vince Young - 2006 - 357 attempts - 51.5% - 2199 yards - 6.2 average - 12 TDs - 13 INTs - 66.7 rating
Chad Hutchinson - 2002 - 250 attempts - 50.8% - 1555 yards - 6.2 average - 7 TDs - 8 INTs - 66.3 rating
Quincy Carter - 2001 - 176 attempts - 51.1% - 1072 yards - 6.1 average - 5 TDs - 7 INTs - 63.0 rating
Mark Sanchez - 2009 - 364 attempts - 53.8% - 2444 yards - 6.7 average - 12 TDs - 20 INTs - 63.0 rating
Mike Vick - 2001 - 113 attempts - 44.2% - 785 yards - 6.9 average - 2 TDs - 3 INTs - 62.7 rating
Matthew Stafford - 2009 - 377 attempts - 53.3% - 2267 yards - 6.0 average - 13 TDs - 20 INTs - 61.0 rating
Donovan McNabb - 1999 - 216 attempts - 49.1% - 948 yards - 4.4 average - 8 TDs - 7 INTs - 60.1 rating
Kyle Orton - 2005 - 368 attempts - 51.6% - 1869 yards - 5.1 average - 9 TDs - 13 INTs - 59.7 rating
Eli Manning - 2004 - 197 attempts - 48.2% - 1043 yards - 5.3 average - 6 TDs - 9 INTs - 55.4 rating
Alex Smith - 2005 - 165 attempts - 50.9% - 875 yards - 5.3 average - 1 TD - 11 INTs - 40.8 rating
Ryan Leaf - 1998 - 245 attempts - 45.3% - 1289 yards - 5.3 average - 2 TDs - 15 INTs - 39.0 rating

 

[jchap]

The most unprecedented thing about it is he is doing it without using the read option as a crutch.

 

[The Realist]

Not bad for a game manager.

 

[Kevinicus]

Now compare his team to all those other teams, and I think you'll also find that it's not really close.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Now compare his team to all those other teams, and I think you'll also find that it's not really close.

Wilson's Seattle and Ben's Pittsburgh were pretty good. Pitt won 15 straight I believe.

 

[SultanOfSix]

The fact that the next person on the list is RGIII (although I don't think he's like him) makes me still cautious to pronounce anything despite what he's done this year.

 

[The Realist]

The fact that the next person on the list is RGIII (although I don't think he's like him) makes me still cautious to pronounce anything despite what he's done this year.

RGIII is another on the long list of failed run first QB's ala Glam Newton and Kluckernick. Eventually you have to be able to win from the pocket in the NFL. Vicinity passing, worm killing "QB's" can't do it. RGIII is a fragile, childish, non-leader. Johnny Manziel minus the addiction issues.

 

[DoctorChicken]

RGIII is another on the long list of failed run first QB's ala Glam Newton and Kluckernick. Eventually you have to be able to win from the pocket in the NFL. Vicinity passing, worm killing "QB's" can't do it. RGIII is a fragile, childish, non-leader. Johnny Manziel minus the addiction issues.

Don't really see how you can call Cam a "failed" QB.

 

[The Realist]

Don't really see how you can call Cam a "failed" QB.

It's happening right before your eyes. 52.7% is a train wreck. These WR's and TE's playing QB always crater as soon as they don't have the #1 D giving them the ball at opponents 40 all the time. Cam Newton is horrendous and I predict he won't be in Carolina for long.

 

[DoctorChicken]

It's happening right before your eyes. 52.7% is a train wreck. These WR's and TE's playing QB always crater as soon as they don't have the #1 D giving them the ball at opponents 40 all the time. Cam Newton is horrendous and I predict he won't be in Carolina for long.

He's not having a good year at all but the dude isn't "horrendous". Their entire team is a train wreck.

 

[Doomsday101]

I feel very confident about Dak. Hell with RGIII or Kaepernick, those guys are shotgun QB who have 1 read and run. What Dak is doing is far more impressive than either one of those knuckle heads. Dak will have much to learn to refine but he is the 1st to say it.

 

[Kevinicus]

Wilson's Seattle and Ben's Pittsburgh were pretty good. Pitt won 15 straight I believe.

They were very good from a defensive standpoint, but I think those two still pale in comparison to the Boys from an offensive standpoint. They were both centered around running the football though, and did that well.

 

[KJJ]

Not bad for a QB who was being compared to Kyle Orton by a few on this board.

 

[Fletch]

Wilson's Seattle and Ben's Pittsburgh were pretty good. Pitt won 15 straight I believe.

Helluva defense he had. I call it what is... coattails.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Even taking into account the near 20 year span of different eras of football, my first reaction is that I really wish Dak had thrown about 10 more interceptions.

 

[superonyx]

Now compare his team to all those other teams, and I think you'll also find that it's not really close.

Dak inherited a 4-12 team.
Excuses or not we were 4-12.

This comparison isn't even about our record but instead shows passing efficiency. Sure we have Zeke and it helps. But we still had a healthy running game last year and we were still 4-12.

Minimizing Dak because of talent around him is the crap the Eagles fans turn to when they feel nervous and insecure over Dak vs Wentz.
Matt Cassell and Weeden had talent around them and we couldn't score at all.

 

[JJHLH1]

Dak is the biggest reason the Cowboys are 13-2. Last year's quarterbacks did a terrible job protecting the ball, throwing a combined 22 interceptions. Dak has thrown 4 in 15 games. He's on an historic pace. If Dak finishes the Philly game without throwing an interception, he’ll have the second lowest single-season interception percentage in NFL history for a QB who has started all 16 games, trailing only Tom Brady in 2010.

Dak is also averaging 8.0 yards per attempt which is better than any other Cowboys quarterback throughout their history.

Our Pro Bowl rookie QB has been simply sensational.

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[BoysfanfromCanada]

Dak inherited a 4-12 team.
Excuses or not we were 4-12.

This comparison isn't even about our record but instead shows passing efficiency. Sure we have Zeke and it helps. But we still had a healthy running game last year and we were still 4-12.

Minimizing Dak because of talent around him is the crap the Eagles fans turn to when they feel nervous and insecure over Dak vs Wentz.
Matt Cassell and Weeden had talent around them and we couldn't score at all.

Dak went into Green Bay and beat the Bengals (?) without Dez and Tyron Smith. Come on now, anyone who still thinks he's a product of the team only is an idiot

 

[Qbert]

The most unprecedented thing about it is he is doing it without using the read option as a crutch.

That's why I laugh when I see Phil, NYG, and WAS fans say he's kapernick or RG3.

 

[Gaede]

68% completion is surreal. Even for a vet.

Those are elite numbers. You can explain them away all you want. But the #s definitively prove that Dak is playing at an elite level. And has put up the best rookie season for a QB in twenty years.