Dak in top 10 passer rating! (Week 15)

Hardline said:
Since when did overthrown and under thrown passes hit receivers in the hands around their chest?
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so every drop was an over thrown or under thrown pass. tell me if every QB including the super duper great Rodgers throws a perfect pass every time? tell me its never the recievers fault? tell me CD didn't drop three catchable passes against Giants, tell me CD didn't drop a screen pass against the WFT? tell me every drop pass is Dak's fault....

and if the WRs need a perfect pass everytime to make a catch otherwise they drop it, then our WRs are over rated and why are we paying Cooper 20M if he needs a perfect pass every time to make a catch...

that's all I want to hear.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
are you now a Dak supporter? what you just posted clearly shows he is better than any of those QBs....including his record....

not sure what you were trying to accomplish with this foolishness
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this again, anyone concerned with Dak is only talking about how he is in the last 7 games. Show a chart for all qbs since wk 8
 
Cowboy Lover said:
People make fun of "eye test". And yet....they watch the game. That's what "eye test" is. If you didn't believe in "eye test" you'd just check the stat lines/game summary.

Do don't give me this crap about "eye test" mkay? (Right? :) )

Using your eyes can tell you way more than just stats. Dak may get "credit" for a fumble....but your eyes to you the center got jacked by the nose tackle.....the real problem. Just one example.

I mean that is if you aren't abusing stats to rationalize some agenda.
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very true, Ive seen some dropped passes that "hit a receiver in the hands" yet the receiver had to reach back just a bit. Its a game of inches sometimes
 
Established1971 said:
this again, anyone concerned with Dak is only talking about how he is in the last 7 games. Show a chart for all qbs since wk 8
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is the last 8 weeks all that matters? nothing else matters? should we take last 8 weeks, except thursday night games? should we just consider only games played above a certain temprature? seems too convenient to only consider partial results to support a case for a season....

and are the offensive struggles all on Dak? I am not saying Dak is not struggling....but is it all on Dak?
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
so every drop was an over thrown or under thrown pass. tell me if every QB including the super duper great Rodgers throws a perfect pass every time? tell me its never the recievers fault? tell me CD didn't drop three catchable passes against Giants, tell me CD didn't drop a screen pass against the WFT? tell me every drop pass is Dak's fault....

and if the WRs need a perfect pass everytime to make a catch otherwise they drop it, then our WRs are over rated and why are we paying Cooper 20M if he needs a perfect pass every time to make a catch...

that's all I want to hear.
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Not every pass is Dak's fault. The majority of dropped passes are his fault.
 
Hardline said:
Not every pass is Dak's fault. The majority of dropped passes are his fault.
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how do you come to that conclusion...oh, sorry, yes the eye test with the biased glasses? or is there a stat somewhere you can point to that quantify's this?

according to this. Cowboys have had 17 dropped passes.
STATS Hosted Solution | Team Leaders - Passes Dropped - NFL - Football

middle of the pack. chargers leading the league with 26...so I guess Herbert is very bad and all the drops are his fault? KC has 20....and they have Kelce and Hill.

and I counted 4 passes CD dropped the past two games, and I clearly remember one he dropped against Tampa.....I am sure there are a few more.

now, is Dak at fault too with some inaccurate throws. yes...but I think based on these stats, this is way over blown. 17 passes out of 492 attempts....
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
is the last 8 weeks all that matters? nothing else matters? should we take last 8 weeks, except thursday night games? should we just consider only games played above a certain temprature? seems too convenient to only consider partial results to support a case for a season....

and are the offensive struggles all on Dak? I am not saying Dak is not struggling....but is it all on Dak?
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dude read and understand what people are saying: people who are concerned about Dak are concerned because of his play since his injury. Thats all I am saying that concerns are legit. The Dak that steps on the field Sunday is the current Dak, not the one who lit up teams in the first 7 games. I hope that Dak comes back, that would be great. I am just concerned that he may not be the one stepping on the field Sunday

sheesh
 
Established1971 said:
dude read and understand what people are saying: people who are concerned about Dak are concerned because of his play since his injury. Thats all I am saying that concerns are legit. The Dak that steps on the field Sunday is the current Dak, not the one who lit up teams in the first 7 games. I hope that Dak comes back, that would be great. I am just concerned that he may not be the one stepping on the field Sunday

sheesh
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I have said as much about Dak after his injury. he just hasn't been the same. I think it impacted his footwork. I said that at least 10+ times...and I think he is still trying to get his footwork back.... last game against Giants, despite the score, was better. people...

but my response was to stats USArmyFake posted....it was seemingly in support of Dak relative to the rest of the folks on his list. even in the past 8 games, his stats are very comparable or better....we just want the Dak of the first 7 games......the Elite level play we were seeing.
 
Mark said:
Isn't Dak tied with Tom Brady for #7 passer rating of ALL TIME - behind Kirk Cousins? :)
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Pretty much and Dak edges Romo :). Rating still doesn't tell you the whole story though.

1 Patrick Mahomes 105.5 2017-2021 kan
2 Deshaun Watson 104.5 2017-2020 htx
3 Aaron Rodgers 104.3 2005-2021 gnb
4 Russell Wilson 101.5 2012-2021 sea
5 Drew Brees 98.7 2001-2020 2TM
6 Kirk Cousins 98.4 2012-2021 2TM
7 Tom Brady 97.5 2000-2021 2TM
8 Dak Prescott 97.4 2016-2021 dal
9 Tony Romo 97.1 2004-2016 dal
10 Steve Young+ 96.8 1985-1999 2TM
11 Peyton Manning+ 96.5 1998-2015 2TM
12 Philip Rivers 95.2 2004-2020 2TM
13 Matt Ryan 94.2 2008-2021 atl
14 Ben Roethlisberger 93.9 2004-2021 pit
15 Kurt Warner+ 93.7 1998-2009 3TM
16 Derek Carr 92.4 2014-2021 rai
 
rocyaice said:
Because Goff sucked….
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Goff Career Stats (82 games)

1,847 of 2,885 64% Comp % 21,178 Yards 124 TD's 63 INT's

Dak Career Stats (82 games)

1,851 of 2,785 66.5% Comp % 21,232 Yards 131 TD's 50 INT's


Similar career numbers.....I guess that mean Dak sucks too.
 
Established1971 said:
very true, Ive seen some dropped passes that "hit a receiver in the hands" yet the receiver had to reach back just a bit. Its a game of inches sometimes
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Exactly. Simple completion/incomplete stat doesn't really tell the story. Did the QB lead the receiver. Was the receiver about ready to get whacked? (not a terrible excuse for a "drop").

I do agree, some WR, Ceedee.....have INDEED dropped some good passes. But that doesn't mean Dak isn't sometimes erratic.

I don't get why it has to be either or...just for the sake of arguing.
 
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