Dak on his legacy - I want to win a championship

blueblood70 said:
YES Pass up on post don't open the damn videos if it triggers you yeah move on if this stuff triggers you to a point where you say he's making us angry no he's making you angry and if you get angry over this has no integral part of your life then you need to let it go yes move on because you might end up having a heart attack a stroke we're very concerned with fans who say they're triggered easily by listening to videos how about this don't open the videos matter of fact don't be here when I say move on maybe the Cowboys are causing you unnecessary stress in your life you should very much move on.

Don't ask me questions you don't want answers to...BYE.
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Ok, here is a question i do want answered

Is this blindness a birth defect or a result of bad personal choices?
 
Hawkeye19 said:
Did you decide not to respond to the GB game? The one where Dak led the only #2 seed to lose at home to a #7 seed in NFL history ?

I am not saying Dak is the only problem. This team has had plenty of issues for years. I am saying that he has played his worst when we have needed his best.
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well didn't Romo have the #1 seed and lost to the #5 seed at home? not sure which one is worse
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
yes, took me a bit, but giants were #5 seed. we were #1 seed. and we lost. so not sure which one is worse.
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It is an interesting perspective. I thought pro-football-reference.com would easily have cumulative playoff seeding data but I could only find data grouped per season only. ProFootballHof.com has top seeded team per conference results (link) from 1975 through 2017, but does not include the seed of teams they beat or lost. Needless to say, I hoped to be lazy and grab comprehensive data to post but did not succeed.

I did google this though (link):

SituationNumber of TeamsPercentage
Winning Wild Card Round9 of 2339.1%
Winning Divisional Round4 of 2317.4%
Winning Conference Championship2 of 238.7%
Winning Super Bowl2 of 238.7%

If accurate, the data shows the success rate of number five seeds in the playoffs from 2000 to 2023. The 2007 #5 seeded New York Giants would fall into the 17.4% winning percentage by beating #1 seeded Dallas.

Contrastly, the 2023 Green Bay Packers are the only seventh seed to beat ANY playoff team, regardless of higher seed, out of ten opportunities (thus far). Objectively, I would judge a #5 seed, beating a higher-ranked team in the divisional round at a 17.4% rate, as less impressive than a #7 seed beating a higher-ranked team in the wildcard round at a 10% rate.
 
DallasEast said:
It is an interesting perspective. I thought pro-football-reference.com would easily have cumulative playoff seeding data but I could only find data grouped per season only. ProFootballHof.com has top seeded team per conference results (link) from 1975 through 2017, but does not include the seed of teams they beat or lost. Needless to say, I hoped to be lazy and grab comprehensive data to post but did not succeed.

I did google this though (link):

SituationNumber of TeamsPercentage
Winning Wild Card Round9 of 2339.1%
Winning Divisional Round4 of 2317.4%
Winning Conference Championship2 of 238.7%
Winning Super Bowl2 of 238.7%

If accurate, the data shows the success rate of number five seeds in the playoffs from 2000 to 2023. The 2007 #5 seeded New York Giants would fall into the 17.4% winning percentage by beating #1 seeded Dallas.

Contrastly, the 2023 Green Bay Packers are the only seventh seed to beat ANY playoff team, regardless of higher seed, out of ten opportunities (thus far). Objectively, I would judge a #5 seed, beating a higher-ranked team in the divisional round at a 17.4% rate, as less impressive than a #7 seed beating a higher-ranked team in the wildcard round at a 10% rate.
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I don't know where the beginning of this part of this conversation that somehow Prescott wanting to win a Super Bowl and his legacy turned into let's focus on playoff losses !!!​
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are we doing this again ???/ are we blaming Prescott for that Green Bay loss??? I mean it does suck having a home game and being a high seed and getting beat by a 7 seed but given it's only been going on for five years, there's not enough data in my opinion...​

One part of debates that I get sick of on the Internet about sports but especially about football, is somehow the head coach and the quarterback are the only ones that have carry the record...

I mean every time you get into a conversation, they say well look at his playoff record well why don't we look at TJ Watts and Parsons and all the other records in the NFL that that apply to all players that were on the field over that discussion.

In that particular game the defense couldn't have played worse, they couldn't have ,I guess they could have gave up a touchdown on every drive until you know Green Bay waved the white flag let them have some garbage time ,but they literally could have scored a touchdown on every drive until the clock went to zero...​

I don't care about the couple of interceptions that really weren't his fault but yes he played poorly because once again we had no run game we had no physicality in the trenches and we got our butts beat on defense...​
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that's a fact , we lost that game and like how does this come up in a conversation about the quarterback every player on that team every player that's been on these teams and every part of the coaching staffs all the way down to the kicking instructor since 2016 should get the label of having a losing playoff record.​

That's why I bring up the Pittsburgh Steelers they've lost seven straight playoff games but TJ what been part of the last four dudes got one sack in four games so he has a bad playoff record 0-4!!!! he should be lambasted, and he should not be paid more money, he should be cut off his team ,yup the damn defensive ends not doing his job..hes overrated and overpaid..

sound familiar?

Back to the Green Bay game, most of us who absorb a lot of football we remember that whole playoff grouping and I remember the Lions just absolutely stomping on San Francisco in the first half, literally they couldn't be more of a mirror in the games the offenses were playing horrible for the 49ers they weren't doing much on defense...

I mean the first half was almost a duplicate of what was going on in the cowboy game..

I believe the halftime score at least the differential was almost exactly the same, you know what was different, no it wasn't the quarterback ,it was their defense coming up with a bunch of stops coming out of halftime allowing their team to get back in the game and our defense gave up three straight touchdowns coming out of halftime..

there was never going to be a comeback, the defense was the biggest part of the loss,

so how this keeps ending up on a Prescott thread I guess as usual and I'm not reading because whatever discussing you're having is with somebody I have on ignore,

but I'm sure that's how this got here is Prescott saying he wants to go to the Super Bowl and then blaming him for this playoff massacres they've been part of and really it's been more the defense than anything else it's been more of the trenches and lack of a run game than anything else and yeah he's had some poor games he's kind of hard to play quarterback when your offensive line in your run game isn't there and then you look over and your defense can't make a stop it might put a little pressure on you, yep....
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Yeah I honestly noticed it about 2 years ago lol. I think he screws with this fanbase he has to lol.
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I don't agree with it but if it was true why not I don't blame him it's partly pointed out the moronic statements he has to read about himself that he's being blamed for all the problems around Dallas and anytime he gets paid they say he's overpaid you know the people who can't judge a quarterback from a punter apparently blame him for everything they literally talk about how he's average somehow he's the 16th quarterback in the league you know those guys hell yeah I'd be looking into camera thinking about that when I said sarcastic things...


I don't think he's doing that but at some point players hear the whispers and have a right to punch back a little bit and instead of throwing all the fans under the bus he knows which ones are going to get triggered and he probably enjoys it although I still don't believe that but if that is true that's what's going on....

He's gaslighting the haters and there's nothing wrong with that man has a right to do it as long as it's not direct and he's not up there on the might directly insulting people he's doing it in a passive aggressive way and I think that I fully agree with it being necessary sometimes.....
 
DallasEast said:
It is an interesting perspective. I thought pro-football-reference.com would easily have cumulative playoff seeding data but I could only find data grouped per season only. ProFootballHof.com has top seeded team per conference results (link) from 1975 through 2017, but does not include the seed of teams they beat or lost. Needless to say, I hoped to be lazy and grab comprehensive data to post but did not succeed.

I did google this though (link):

SituationNumber of TeamsPercentage
Winning Wild Card Round9 of 2339.1%
Winning Divisional Round4 of 2317.4%
Winning Conference Championship2 of 238.7%
Winning Super Bowl2 of 238.7%

If accurate, the data shows the success rate of number five seeds in the playoffs from 2000 to 2023. The 2007 #5 seeded New York Giants would fall into the 17.4% winning percentage by beating #1 seeded Dallas.

Contrastly, the 2023 Green Bay Packers are the only seventh seed to beat ANY playoff team, regardless of higher seed, out of ten opportunities (thus far). Objectively, I would judge a #5 seed, beating a higher-ranked team in the divisional round at a 17.4% rate, as less impressive than a #7 seed beating a higher-ranked team in the wildcard round at a 10% rate.
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good research. regardless both of those losses are emabarassing. but there is also a longer history of #5 seeds as NFL went to 7 team format more recently. so there needs to also be more data.
 
Hawkeye19 said:
Apples and oranges.

1. The game was far closer and Dallas wasn’t blown out

2. Tony wasn’t the worst player on the field that day. Dak was.
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so now closeness of the game matters. but then everyone complains about losses and closeness is irrelevant.

Romo lost as the #1 seed. end of story. the offense that was averaging 28.5 points per game scored only 17.


the team choked at home having the #1 seed through out playoffs.

the rest is sentiment and stats for losers.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
so now closeness of the game matters. but then everyone complains about losses and closeness is irrelevant.

Romo lost as the #1 seed. end of story. the offense that was averaging 28.5 points per game scored only 17.


the team choked at home having the #1 seed through out playoffs.

the rest is sentiment and stats for losers.
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Yes, context and game flow do matter.

Dallas vs NY: Had a wide open Crayton not dropped a 3rd down pass that hit him in his hands and would have likely been a TD— Dallas wins that game. Tony had them positioned to win and NY hung on.

Against GB, we were down 27-0 at the half and melting down on the sideline with zero answers. Dak was the worst player on the field and never gave his team a chance to compete

If you can’t tell the difference between the two games— then you simply don’t understand football.
 
I don't see it as any great loss if Dak never wins a championship. I cared about Romo winning a championship but that never happened so Dak not getting there is expected by me.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
You said he made an all pro…I added he made a SB because I thought we were running down his accomplishments. Cam was a good player and never had any receiving threats. He had no business being in the SB and he made Rivera look like a good head coach. You can argue how good or bad he was. That’s fine. He certainly had some accuracy issues….but brain dead doesn’t come to mind when I think of him.
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Not sure why, he proved he was braindead when he had to use his head to win games and failed miserably.

I'm not running down accomplishment, dear, you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do they always say a QB had no receiving threats when he can't read a D?
 
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