Dak on his legacy - I want to win a championship

[KJJ]

Be funny if someone changed his cap to one that said Interception Club.

He hasn’t thrown near as many as the QB he took over for.

 

[GINeric]

The MVP isn’t a spelling contest or an IQ test. It’s a vote generally based on pure athleticism. Cam had athleticism in spades. What he lacked was the grey matter between the ears.

The greatest athletes in football didn't all win an MVP award. There are lots of elite athletic players who've never won that award before.

 

[GINeric]

Just curious if you ever get tired of this narrative? I mean, pretty much everyone already knows this simple concept. It’s not like you are bringing anyone fresh info.

The simple fact is he plays QB, and he’s the highest paid one at that. A QB is not the only reason a team wins or loses, but he is the one that can affect the game’s outcome more than any other position. He’s the one that is supposed to elevate the play of the other players around him.

When Dak is getting paid the amount he is, and the Cowboys are getting the results they are, you are fighting a very steep uphill battle when you expect everyone to divide the blame equally

You said, "the quarterback is supposed to elevate the play of the players around him", correct? That's fair.

Well according to this statement you made.....

1. That nullified all the years of excuses Matthew Stafford got for having a CAREER record of 17-70 vs winning teams being blamed on his stint in Detroit. He was considered a better talent being drafted in the first round. So if a 4th round pick like Dak is held to this standard, then ALL quarterbacks drafted in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds have zero excuses. If quarterbacks truly must elevate the play of the other players around him.

2. This means that we must place more respect on Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles names, more than Jim Kelly and Dan Marino because Kelly and Marino COULD NOT elevate the play of the players around them to have achieved a Superbowl victory like Foles and Dilfer achieved. Again, this falls under the umbrella of quarterbacks elevating the play of the other players around them.

3. We also have to place Colin Kaepernick a tier above Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson (currently) due to the fact that Allen and Jackson were unsuccessful at elevating the play of the players around him enough to reach a Superbowl like Colin Kaepernick did.

To conclude, i have absolutely no problem with holding Dak accountable for unsuccessfully elevating the play of the other players around him when it counts the most..... lets just make sure that we keep that same energy for EVERYONE who plays the quarterback position in the NFL.


(Insert excuses and goalpost moving for other QBs here)

 

[kskboys]

You said, "the quarterback is supposed to elevate the play of the players around him", correct? That's fair.

Well according to this statement you made.....

1. That nullified all the years of excuses Matthew Stafford got for having a CAREER record of 17-70 vs winning teams being blamed on his stint in Detroit. He was considered a better talent being drafted in the first round. So if a 4th round pick like Dak is held to this standard, then ALL quarterbacks drafted in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds have zero excuses. If quarterbacks truly must elevate the play of the other players around him.

2. This means that we must place more respect on Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles names, more than Jim Kelly and Dan Marino because Kelly and Marino COULD NOT elevate the play of the players around them to have achieved a Superbowl victory like Foles and Dilfer achieved. Again, this falls under the umbrella of quarterbacks elevating the play of the other players around them.

3. We also have to place Colin Kaepernick a tier above Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson (currently) due to the fact that Allen and Jackson were unsuccessful at elevating the play of the players around him enough to reach a Superbowl like Colin Kaepernick did.

To conclude, i have absolutely no problem with holding Dak accountable for unsuccessfully elevating the play of the other players around him when it counts the most..... lets just make sure that we keep that same energy for EVERYONE who plays the quarterback position in the NFL.


(Insert excuses and goalpost moving for other QBs here)

Well, MC, you got your answer, he's not tired of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Johannes44]

The greatest athletes in football didn't all win an MVP award. There are lots of elite athletic players who've never won that award before.

And there are plenty of dumb as rocks guys who have won an MVPz

 

[GINeric]

Well, MC, you got your answer, he's not tired of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can anyone get tired of the truth?? That sounds crazy. People would rather believe in and post false narratives than actual real life facts?

That's the problem.

Im still waiting for someone to show me which part of anything I've posted, didn't actually happen. I was told quarterbacks are supposed to elevate the play of the talent around them, correct?

Around here, quarterbacks are measured by the biggest games and post season success, correct?? Why do people set standards for one quarterback, yet give excuses and goalpost moving to other quarterbacks in the same situations?

I've learned long ago, the truth hurts and crush narratives. Its a few sore people around here when it comes to accountability for ALL quarterbacks, not just one. Pretty hilarious.