Dak Prescott Analysis

[rwalters31]

I know some of you have probably already seen the rookie season analysis from Samuel Gold, see below if not.



He notes a few inadequacies that Dak displayed his rookie season, but these were ignored due to our win streak.

However, Dak has been asked to shoulder more of the load this season. These inadequacies have been amplified this season because he’s had less help.

Some issues are fixable, like his mechanics and timing.

The most disturbing issues mentioned in the video above; tunnel vision, player anticipation, and reaction/recognition speed.

Now I’m no expert, but anticipation and reaction speed in particular seem like instinctual God given traits. You either have them or you don’t. Maybe I’m completely wrong, but what is your logical unemotional take on Prescott?

I agree with most that you indicate, how ever, I do believe that the anticipation and reaction speed can be fixed. I do not know how old you are but I wil tell you about Joe Montana an the 49ers. When Joe came into the NFL he had two left feet and a untrained eye for receivers. Along came Bill Walsh who was a GREAT QB coach. He taught Joe how to place his feet in a 3 step, 5 step, and 7 step drops and he made Joe practice it until he made it look like dance steps. Then Bill taught Joe the passing tree for a 3 step, 5 step, and 7 step drop. Then he found receivers who could learn the passing tree routes and performed them perfectly. When Bill put all these together it was a pretty thing to see and made the 49ers a winning team.

So the moral to this story is Dak can be made whole but needs a great QB coach who can also be a OC and the Cowboys can be a GREAT team again.

 

[waving monkey]

Last offseason threads:

Dak better than Brady/Rodgers? (Actual threads)

This offseason:

It's only his 2nd year but but but Romo...

It'll take time but the Dak stans will someday admit he isn't good. For his sake I hope he keeps doing commercials and saving $$ because he is directly on the RG3 career arc.

I try to look at the subject and go from there and last year he was as good as Brady was he's first year playing and I stand by that.
This year he's not what is the conflict in that. Look at the evidence. Therefor he gets time to continue. His play warrants it.He'll get it.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Dak was not good this year, you are what you are

 

[lostar2009]

Romo was already a starter in the league for 4 years when that started to happen. He’s the one who begged Jerry for an offensive lineman. Dak hasn’t been the same guy since the atlanta game. When he got destroyed because our fearless leader couldn’t adjust to Adrian Clayborn lol. He was shell shocked. Not to mention I’ve seen him take some cam Newton like hits to the head this season with no calls. That can’t be good on his psyche either

This! They wanted a 2nd year qb to do a Romo. Play with less and figure out how go get it done. Poor o line play, no starting rb, a young secondary, distraction's and everything else. But they forgot football is a team sport. The team needs it's other pieces to work right. In the end Dak regress.

 

[kevm3]

Aside from Wentz and Goff, which young qb is lighting up the league? Mariota looks shaky. Winston is going to miss the playoffs again. Kizer looks terrible, but then again it's the browns. Trubisky isn't anything mindblowing as of yet. Derek Carr doesn't look that great this year. It's funny to see that people think drafting another qb in the 1st is going to magically fix things and we'll find some guy with a rocket arm that will fix everything. How many qbs have we had come through here? The only ones who've looked decent in the Garrett regime are Tony Romo and Dak Prescott. Bottom line is that when we play against REAL contenders, you simply cannot have a coach that gives you nothing on gameday. When you play defenses that already know the play and they have a defense that is just as physical and athletic as our offense, you're going to get shut down without any creativity. Their cbs are going to run stride by stride with the receiver. The qb is going to get blasted into oblivion holding onto the ball waiting for these simplistic routes to develop, of which they never do. There's a reason why we can beat up on mediocre teams, but as soon as we play a team with a decent defense, they shut us down. If Garrett is still here and we draft a new 'wonderboy', we'll be complaining about the EXACT same things... just as how we're complaining about flipping coordinators yet again. Rob Ryan was the problem, and then Monte Kiffen, and now Marinelli. Now Linehan is the problem too. Dak Prescott is the problem. Dez Bryant is the problem. Everybody is the problem other than the obvious constants in Jones and Garrett.

 

[diefree666]

I agree with most that you indicate, how ever, I do believe that the anticipation and reaction speed can be fixed. I do not know how old you are but I wil tell you about Joe Montana an the 49ers. When Joe came into the NFL he had two left feet and a untrained eye for receivers. Along came Bill Walsh who was a GREAT QB coach. He taught Joe how to place his feet in a 3 step, 5 step, and 7 step drops and he made Joe practice it until he made it look like dance steps. Then Bill taught Joe the passing tree for a 3 step, 5 step, and 7 step drop. Then he found receivers who could learn the passing tree routes and performed them perfectly. When Bill put all these together it was a pretty thing to see and made the 49ers a winning team.

So the moral to this story is Dak can be made whole but needs a great QB coach who can also be a OC and the Cowboys can be a GREAT team again.

Joe Montana had traits you cannot develop that he showed at ND. If a coach can take anyone and make him a HOF QB then it would be done a lot more.

 

[rwalters31]

Joe Montana had traits you cannot develop that he showed at ND. If a coach can take anyone and make him a HOF QB then it would be done a lot more.

I think what happens most of the time is that coaches and GMs think what they see in the college games and rankings drive them to taking aQB. When they do not see the anticipated results, they do NOT try to teach but look again into the draft for a ready made NFL QB. A real QB coach looks for football intelligence first then the other QB traits (e.g. Brady and Romo). The other traits can be taught but most teams it seems do not teach QBs.

 

[lukin2006]

yeah, his problems are nigh unfixable. we would have seen improvement by now if they could be fixed, but we've seen only regression. the future's not good looking right now.

The entire team regressed this year ... seems to be the common denominator under JG.

 

[lukin2006]

Dak is not the problem with this team ... the problem with this team is ownership and bad coaching.

 

[conner01]

I don’t know that the majority of Dak issues aren’t fixable
Most young qb’s have technique issues, have trouble with anticipation and reads
But for this team to be a playoff team thats the key to our success
Calling for drafting another QB, trading him and such to me is silly
Sounds like the same posts wanting Dlaw cut, or almost every other player on this team
You simply can’t expect every player to be what they will be in year one or cut players you’ve spent a draft pick on in a year
The HOF is full of players that fans would have wanted cut after their first year or two
With Dak it’s about him doing the work and the team putting the right system and players that match his strengths

 

[diefree666]

I think what happens most of the time is that coaches and GMs think what they see in the college games and rankings drive them to taking aQB. When they do not see the anticipated results, they do NOT try to teach but look again into the draft for a ready made NFL QB. A real QB coach looks for football intelligence first then the other QB traits (e.g. Brady and Romo). The other traits can be taught but most teams it seems do not teach QBs.

big arm etc. Look at all the busts like Jumonguous Russel and Jeff George and so on. Big arms big player etc but ten cent heads. Amazes me how often even the so called best scouts and coaches fall for it

 

[rags747]

Last offseason threads:

Dak better than Brady/Rodgers? (Actual threads)

This offseason:

It's only his 2nd year but but but Romo...

It'll take time but the Dak stans will someday admit he isn't good. For his sake I hope he keeps doing commercials and saving $$ because he is directly on the RG3 career arc.

I had read that he signed approx $5m in endorsements this year so I think he should be fine.

 

[CyberB0b]

He proved last year that he can play. I think the Atlanta game really wrecked him mentally. His mechanics got noticeably worse after this game and his pocket presence went to crap.

 

[SlammedZero]

I'm willing to give Dak a chance. This season just seemed off for the entire team. Nobody really stood out.

Dak deserves his criticisms but so does this coaching staff. Look at what a different staff did for Goff. Looked like a huge bust and now is playing well this season. It would be nice to see the coaching staff help/put Dak in a position to win.

We are stuck with Garrett but I'm at least hopeful that maybe we can get a different offensive mind in here as OC.

 

[mahoneybill]

Opposing DBs. Know our route tree and anticipated spots so Dak has less room for error . That said our receivers don’t run legal pick plays so aren’t open quickly either. Sure he throws some ducks and I’ll advised passes but all QBs do even the legendary ones. Don’t forget Jimmy J drafted Steve Walsh because he didn’t think Troy could do it. The cowboys weren’t a heavy pass team even with the wall , Emmitt and Troy

 

[mahoneybill]

He proved last year that he can play. I think the Atlanta game really wrecked him mentally. His mechanics got noticeably worse after this game and his pocket presence went to crap.

That will happen to the best ( Brady - Denver D ) when your line play breaks down

 

[CowboyRoy]

I know some of you have probably already seen the rookie season analysis from Samuel Gold, see below if not.



He notes a few inadequacies that Dak displayed his rookie season, but these were ignored due to our win streak.

However, Dak has been asked to shoulder more of the load this season. These inadequacies have been amplified this season because he’s had less help.

Some issues are fixable, like his mechanics and timing.

The most disturbing issues mentioned in the video above; tunnel vision, player anticipation, and reaction/recognition speed.

Now I’m no expert, but anticipation and reaction speed in particular seem like instinctual God given traits. You either have them or you don’t. Maybe I’m completely wrong, but what is your logical unemotional take on Prescott?

Why are people shocked that a 2nd year QB needs to improve his mechanics and knowledge of the defense or offense? Dak is the type of guy that will come back better for this in the future. He didnt have 4 years to rot on the bench and take it all in like Romo did. Dak having it so easy last year was probably the worst thing that could have happened to him. With all this adversity, this was really what his rookie year should have been.

 

[waving monkey]

Stick to diluting the gene pool.

that hurt me sitting behind my own computer

 

[starcity214]

This! They wanted a 2nd year qb to do a Romo. Play with less and figure out how go get it done. Poor o line play, no starting rb, a young secondary, distraction's and everything else. But they forgot football is a team sport. The team needs it's other pieces to work right. In the end Dak regress.

I only used Romo as an example because people said that Dak struggled this year because of poor protection , but if you look at the actual numbers, the protection this year has been good/average...


The "Romo was a vet" argument goes out the window because Carson Wentz has also been sacked more times than Dak this season and it didn't seem to affect him..

So, if "playing behind a bad O line (31 sacks)" is the reason that Dak turned into Tim Tebow, how do you guys explain Wentz? (35 sacks in less games)

 

[mattjames2010]

Lol that guys a joke, I dont think Dak is good but I think Russell Wilson is good. Hell I think Watson is gonna be a great qb, so what trait does he think im looking at?

Absolutely cowardly too that he won't come out and just say it.

I'm probably a **** too because I don't think Josh Rosen is all that great....