Dak Prescott Is 1 of 5 QBs In The Super Bowl Era To Go Winless In 3 Or More Divisional Round Games. Romo Was The Last QB

[Captain-Crash]

good, now he has another stat for his records.

 

[eromeopolk]

https://www.nfl.com/news/can-dak-prescott-quarterback-cowboys-to-playoff-success

Since their last Lombardi Trophy was hoisted at the conclusion of Super Bowl XXX, the Cowboys have yet to return to the NFC Championship Game, posting a dismal 0-7 mark in the Divisional Round. Three of those losses, including last season's defeat against the San Francisco 49ers, have come with Prescott under center, as he's become one of five QBs in the Super Bowl era to start three or more divisional tilts and go winless.

Who was the last to do so?

Well, it was current CBS analyst and former Cowboys QB1 Tony Romo, who Prescott succeeded in Dallas. The Cowboys are the only franchise with two quarterbacks to play in three or more Divisional Round games without winning one. Long gone are the days of Hall of Fame Cowboys greats Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman, whose reputations were borne of playoff conquests and clutch play that saw them go 5-2 and 4-1, respectively, in the Divisional Round. Those days of Cowboys QBs captaining their squads to long postseason runs have ridden off into the sunset so far this century.

What do they have in common? An Owner that is GM, and defacto Head Coach for the 27 years without an NFC Championship game appearance.

Jerry Dumbo GM Jones was right. He could get 100 coaches to coach the team Jimmy Johnson, Bob Ackles, and John Wooten built to a Super Bowl. But, he cannot get 100 coaches to coach a team that he built to a Super Bowl.

 

[Flamma]

Okay. You can have your lazy take on it.

You are saying romo wasnt lucky enough to have the team win for him like eli. Or Flacco. Or Johnson. A host of very average qbs not better than romo.
Marino never won a super bowl god he sucks.

Right. Romo wasn't good enough. Just like Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton, Warren Moon, and Jim Kelly. All bums! If they were any good, they would have won. Just like first round pick super bowl champ Eli Manning.

 

[Captain-Crash]

but he's a leader and it only took him four years to get a degree in it.

 

[Sinister]

Maybe it aint the QB's, maybe there are other factors that are also involved, like maybe the defense, offensive line, having enough weapons in the receiving and running game, maybe the Cowboys are making it to these games because the Quarterbacks are able to plug the missing holes on the team, but because the holes on the team are so wide and deep that during the playoffs the QB can't cover the holes as well. Maybe, having a subpar offensive line, playing one of the toughest schedules in the NFL last year, having minimum weapons on the offensive side of the ball all culminate in the fact that the QB can't cover every hole on the offense. Maybe sometimes the defense was deficient and not able to stop a 50 yard pass down the sideline to give the other team a last second field goal. Maybe, it was raining and the QB took the snap and dropped the slick ball and was stopped on the goal line, but what if you forgot that during the second half of that game the defense could not make a single stop of the opposing offense that even if the extra point was made that the defense was unable to stop that offense with plenty of time on the board. Maybe it aint the QB, maybe this team is just not good enough. Maybe the QB made an incredible play then the WR made an incredible play, but because of some stupid rule the play was called back in the final minutes of a game. I'm just saying maybe it aint the QB.

 

[Bing]

Okay. You can have your lazy take on it.

You are saying romo wasnt lucky enough to have the team win for him like eli. Or Flacco. Or Johnson. A host of very average qbs not better than romo.
Marino never won a super bowl god he

Okay. You can have your lazy take on it.

You are saying romo wasnt lucky enough to have the team win for him like eli. Or Flacco. Or Johnson. A host of very average qbs not better than romo.
Marino never won a super bowl god he sucks.

Romo didnt win because he was not good enough....sure the undrafted walk on 3rd string QB ended up being the best QB that Dallas has had this century but that's not saying allot. We had something like 20 different QB's play for Dallas since Troy retired. None of then did anything.
Sure I get it, you love Romo and that's cool he was fun to watch at times. I look at Romo as......well let me put it this way. If the NFL was ran like a Miss America beauty pageant Romo would of won Miss Congeniality every year. Fans liked him but again everyone knew he would never walk across the big stage wearing the crown.

I've said it a million times. If Dallas ever wins the Superbowl again it will be because they went out, went big and drafted the number one ranked QB in the draft in the first round. Until they do that just enjoy watching QBs like Romo and Dak play for regular season fame because they will never sniff the big game.

 

[Sinister]

Romo didnt win because he was not good enough....sure the undrafted walk on 3rd string QB ended up being the best QB that Dallas has had this century but that's not saying allot. We had something like 20 different QB's play for Dallas since Troy retired. None of then did anything.
Sure I get it, you love Romo and that's cool he was fun to watch at times. I look at Romo as......well let me put it this way. If the NFL was ran like a Miss America beauty pageant Romo would of won Miss Congeniality every year. Fans liked him but again everyone knew he would never walk across the big stage wearing the crown.

I've said it a million times. If Dallas ever wins the Superbowl again it will be because they went out, went big and drafted the number one ranked QB in the draft in the first round. Until they do that just enjoy watching QBs like Romo and Dak play for regular season fame because they will never sniff the big game

1st round QB's since 2015 (not including 2022) I can name only a few I would take over Dak:

1. Jameis Winston - Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1st overall)
2. Marcus Mariota - Tennessee Titans (2nd overall)

2016:

1. Jared Goff - Los Angeles Rams (1st overall)
2. Carson Wentz - Philadelphia Eagles (2nd overall)
3. Paxton Lynch - Denver Broncos (26th overall)

2017:

1. Mitchell Trubisky - Chicago Bears (2nd overall)
2. Patrick Mahomes - Kansas City Chiefs (10th overall)
3. Deshaun Watson - Houston Texans (12th overall)

2018:

1. Baker Mayfield - Cleveland Browns (1st overall)
2. Sam Darnold - New York Jets (3rd overall)
3. Josh Allen - Buffalo Bills (7th overall)
4. Josh Rosen - Arizona Cardinals (10th overall)
5. Lamar Jackson - Baltimore Ravens (32nd overall)

2019:

1. Kyler Murray - Arizona Cardinals (1st overall)
2. Daniel Jones - New York Giants (6th overall)
3. Dwayne Haskins - Washington Football Team (15th overall)

2020:

1. Joe Burrow - Cincinnati Bengals (1st overall)
2. Tua Tagovailoa - Miami Dolphins (5th overall)
3. Justin Herbert - Los Angeles Chargers (6th overall)
4. Jordan Love - Green Bay Packers (26th overall)

2021:

1. Trevor Lawrence - Jacksonville Jaguars (1st overall)
2. Zach Wilson - New York Jets (2nd overall)
3. Trey Lance - San Francisco 49ers (3rd overall)
4. Justin Fields - Chicago Bears (11th overall)
5. Mac Jones - New England Patriots (15th overall)

Tell me again how drafting a first round QB will win the Superbowl.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Romo didnt win because he was not good enough....sure the undrafted walk on 3rd string QB ended up being the best QB that Dallas has had this century but that's not saying allot. We had something like 20 different QB's play for Dallas since Troy retired. None of then did anything.
Sure I get it, you love Romo and that's cool he was fun to watch at times. I look at Romo as......well let me put it this way. If the NFL was ran like a Miss America beauty pageant Romo would of won Miss Congeniality every year. Fans liked him but again everyone knew he would never walk across the big stage wearing the crown.

I've said it a million times. If Dallas ever wins the Superbowl again it will be because they went out, went big and drafted the number one ranked QB in the draft in the first round. Until they do that just enjoy watching QBs like Romo and Dak play for regular season fame because they will never sniff the big game.

I see. So you think I liked Romo because he LOOKED good.

AND...you think it takes a 1st round QB to win a Super Bowl.

Okay. Sure.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

At least we can debate whether Tony and Dak are top 10 QBs.

 

[tyke1doe]

So they think Dak is a great qb. Not that every qb is a great qb. Those are two different arguments lol.

Again, you're separating my point from its context. What I'm saying is that they're arguing that Dak is a great quarterback by citing his and Mahomes' stats.
This isn't MY argument. It's the argument of those who, when arguing Dak is a great/elite/top quarterback, drum up Mahomes' stats in comparison to Dak's as a way to bolster their argument.
If they weren't, then they'd use stats from Kirk Cousins or Daniel Jones.

 

[Kevinicus]

Qbs don't win or lose.
Any analysis that puts that stat on QBs is brainless and lazy.

I'm not a fan of Dak. He sucked and was the worst part of the team against the 49ers two years in a row. But, QBs still don't win or lose on their own.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Right. Romo wasn't good enough. Just like Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton, Warren Moon, and Jim Kelly. All bums! If they were any good, they would have won. Just like first round pick super bowl champ Eli Manning.

Everybody on that list at least played in conference title games except for Moon and Romo. You make whatever face saving attempts for Romo you want, but none of them can make his playoff futility go away.

 

[Cowboys5217]

1st round QB's since 2015 (not including 2022) I can name only a few I would take over Dak:

1. Jameis Winston - Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1st overall)
2. Marcus Mariota - Tennessee Titans (2nd overall)

2016:

1. Jared Goff - Los Angeles Rams (1st overall)
2. Carson Wentz - Philadelphia Eagles (2nd overall)
3. Paxton Lynch - Denver Broncos (26th overall)

2017:

1. Mitchell Trubisky - Chicago Bears (2nd overall)
2. Patrick Mahomes - Kansas City Chiefs (10th overall)
3. Deshaun Watson - Houston Texans (12th overall)

2018:

1. Baker Mayfield - Cleveland Browns (1st overall)
2. Sam Darnold - New York Jets (3rd overall)
3. Josh Allen - Buffalo Bills (7th overall)
4. Josh Rosen - Arizona Cardinals (10th overall)
5. Lamar Jackson - Baltimore Ravens (32nd overall)

2019:

1. Kyler Murray - Arizona Cardinals (1st overall)
2. Daniel Jones - New York Giants (6th overall)
3. Dwayne Haskins - Washington Football Team (15th overall)

2020:

1. Joe Burrow - Cincinnati Bengals (1st overall)
2. Tua Tagovailoa - Miami Dolphins (5th overall)
3. Justin Herbert - Los Angeles Chargers (6th overall)
4. Jordan Love - Green Bay Packers (26th overall)

2021:

1. Trevor Lawrence - Jacksonville Jaguars (1st overall)
2. Zach Wilson - New York Jets (2nd overall)
3. Trey Lance - San Francisco 49ers (3rd overall)
4. Justin Fields - Chicago Bears (11th overall)
5. Mac Jones - New England Patriots (15th overall)

Tell me again how drafting a first round QB will win the Superbowl.

It has already been told to you in a recent thread that showed that drafting QBs with high draft picks give you the best chance to win a SB.

Go ahead, take a look at where every top QB that won a SB was drafted then try and tell us again how drafting a first round QB won't win you a SB.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Qbs don't win or lose.
Any analysis that puts that stat on QBs is brainless and lazy.

I'm not a fan of Dak. He sucked and was the worst part of the team against the 49ers two years in a row. But, QBs still don't win or lose on their own.

If your take here was correct the QB position would not take up the largest percentage of cap nor would QBs be the top paid position.

 

[Flamma]

Everybody on that list at least played in conference title games except for Moon and Romo. You make whatever face saving attempts for Romo you want, but none of them can make his playoff futility go away.

Playoff futility has to do with team, not quarterback. Quarterbacks aren't pitchers in MLB. Better teams win, not better quarterbacks. Better quarterbacks only make a difference when teams are equally talented. Ask Joe Montana how it felt to lose by 50 points to the Giants and Phil Simm. Is Phil Simms some great quarterback?

There are no excuses for Moon or Romo. But they were better than many QBs that won super bowls. The reason for that is because those crap or average QBs had much better teams behind them. But for some reason people still think QBs are like pitchers in baseball. Fascinating.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Playoff futility has to do with team, not quarterback. Quarterbacks aren't pitchers in MLB. Better teams win, not better quarterbacks. Better quarterbacks only make a difference when teams are equally talented. Ask Joe Montana how it felt to lose by 50 points to the Giants and Phil Simm. Is Phil Simms some great quarterback?

There are no excuses for Moon or Romo. But they were better than many QBs that won super bowls. The reason for that is because those crap or average QBs had much better teams behind them. But for some reason people still think QBs are like pitchers in baseball. Fascinating.

Qbs might not be able to win by themselves but they sure can lose by themselves. They are the only person other than the center that handles the ball on every play. Bad QB play costs you. That's why everyone wants a great qb.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Qbs might not be able to win by themselves but they sure can lose by themselves. They are the only person other than the center that handles the ball on every play. Bad QB play costs you. That's why everyone wants a great qb.

Dak over Dallas fans don’t want a great QB.

They’re happy with Dak.

 

[Flamma]

Qbs might not be able to win by themselves but they sure can lose by themselves. They are the only person other than the center that handles the ball on every play. Bad QB play costs you. That's why everyone wants a great qb.

Right. QBs can lose the game. I've seen Tony Romo do it all by himself. One of my favorite Cowboys quarterbacks. But in most cases it's not the QB that loses the game. The better team usually wins.

I did not think the Cowboys would win the last two playoff games against the 49ers. Not because of Dak, but because I thought the 49ers were the better team.

 

[Kevinicus]

If your take here was correct the QB position would not take up the largest percentage of cap nor would QBs be the top paid position.

My take is an absolute fact.
And, just because one player doesn't win or lose on their own, doesn't mean they wouldn't be the highest paid. It can still be the SINGLE most important position while not being the entirety of the team.
Using your type of argument...if the QB did in fact win or lose on their own, there would be no reason to pay any of the other players on the team.

 

[Vtwin]

Qbs don't win or lose.
Any analysis that puts that stat on QBs is brainless and lazy.

I'm not a fan of Dak. He sucked and was the worst part of the team against the 49ers two years in a row. But, QBs still don't win or lose on their own.

I get what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree, but I believe last years 49's could successfully argue they were a decent QB away from a SB appearance.

Hell, the last 49's team to play in the SB had it won if not for a horrendous overthrow to a wide open receiver on what would have been the game winner.

In both cases, two very good teams couldn't overcome bad QB play.