Dak Prescott ranks Top 5 amongst All Time QB Stats Leaders

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From the tweet

To claim Dak is anything but a great QB, is to announce to the football world that you aren’t to be taken seriously.
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If you look at the stats listed, you have to go over a very specific time frame to get those rankings without adjusting for era. If its too short, you start bringing in the young guys who rank above Dak in a lot of those categories. If you start adjusting for league averages, a lot of the great QB's of the past bump up.

If you think Dak is an all time great QB, I don't think you should be taken seriously. He is a good but not great QB playing in a QB friendly era. I think the team can win with him as QB but its going to take a great team and coaching (which is what all QB's need, that's not a slam on Dak).

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IMO, the 2-5 is all about Jerry. Its his indifference to discipline and disdain for coaching which is most acutely felt in the playoffs.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
He's top 1 in this.

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This is a pretty irrelevant stat considering a one win switch between won loss (which it should have been had the defense not allowed Aaron rodgers to move 43 yds for game winning FG with 35 secs left including giving up a 3rd and 20 and giving up a 35 yard pass with only 12 secs left) would move Dak into middle of the pack. That sample size is so small, a single game can move your ratio significantly.
 
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doomsday9084 said:
From the tweet


If you look at the stats listed, you have to go over a very specific time frame to get those rankings without adjusting for era. If its too short, you start bringing in the young guys who rank above Dak in a lot of those categories. If you start adjusting for league averages, a lot of the great QB's of the past bump up.

If you think Dak is an all time great QB, I don't think you should be taken seriously. He is a good but not great QB playing in a QB friendly era. I think the team can win with him as QB but its going to take a great team and coaching (which is what all QB's need, that's not a slam on Dak).

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IMO, the 2-5 is all about Jerry. Its his indifference to discipline and disdain for coaching which is most acutely felt in the playoffs.
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To ignore Dak's playoff record while touting empty calorie stats and lists rather than championships is to announce to the world that you don't care about winning championships and are thus not to be taken seriously.
 
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Notice that the QBs listed several times in these lists have all won Super Bowls. Ryan at least played in a SB. The two that haven't whom ironically are mentioned as choking when it matters are Dak and Cousins.
 
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America's Cowboy said:


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Did anyone notice that of the lists posted, only Dak and Cousins have never been to a championship game or a super bowl? But I get it, for some people its all about the stats. To hell with with championships when you can get away with bending your owner over and rape him for 60 mil a season and only have stats to show for it.
 
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DallasInDC said:
This is a pretty irrelevant stat considering a one win switch between won loss (which it should have been had the defense not allowed Aaron rodgers to move 43 yds for game winning FG with 35 secs left including giving up a 3rd and 20 and giving up a 35 yard pass with only 12 secs left) would move Dak into middle of the pack. That sample size is so small, a single game can move your ratio significantly.
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You know why the sample size is only 5 games?

Because loser QBs don't usually keep getting chances to be THAT bad in the playoffs. Teams move on when they prove they can't be a difference. The Cowboys, however, make that QB the highest paid player ever.
 

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Dan Marino had a passer rating of 77.1 with 4,510 yards, 32 touchdowns and 24 interceptions in 18 games in the playoffs in his career.
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That clearly was not great. Even back then in the 80's into the 90's that was only above average.
But he blew the doors off of all the passing records by a huge margin which was why he is in the HOF

dak is not doing the same; he is at the top of the level of passing stats for his generation but he is not setting all time records and he is not coming up big in playoff games
Thus there is no reason to call him a great QB
 

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doomsday9084 said:
From the tweet


If you look at the stats listed, you have to go over a very specific time frame to get those rankings without adjusting for era. If its too short, you start bringing in the young guys who rank above Dak in a lot of those categories. If you start adjusting for league averages, a lot of the great QB's of the past bump up.

If you think Dak is an all time great QB, I don't think you should be taken seriously. He is a good but not great QB playing in a QB friendly era. I think the team can win with him as QB but its going to take a great team and coaching (which is what all QB's need, that's not a slam on Dak).

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IMO, the 2-5 is all about Jerry. Its his indifference to discipline and disdain for coaching which is most acutely felt in the playoffs.
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Very well said.

Right now, there are two great QBs in the league, Mahomes and Rodgers. And Rodgers looks as if he may be done.

There are a few knocking on the door of greatness, to be seen.
 
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gtb1943 said:
Dan Marino had a passer rating of 77.1 with 4,510 yards, 32 touchdowns and 24 interceptions in 18 games in the playoffs in his career.
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That clearly was not great. Even back then in the 80's into the 90's that was only above average.
But he blew the doors off of all the passing records by a huge margin which was why he is in the HOF

dak is not doing the same; he is at the top of the level of passing stats for his generation but he is not setting all time records and he is not coming up big in playoff games
Thus there is no reason to call him a great QB
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His 32 passing TDs is 9th all time and his 4,510 yards is 10th all time for QBs in the playoffs.

So what do you mean by "Even back in the 80's into the 90's that was only above average"?
 

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Coming up small when it counts is the epitome of the stats padder

Pat Mahomes has not led the NFL in passing in his career.

BUT when the rubber meets the road he has been as good as anyone who has ever played.

THAT is the mark of a great QB

not stats
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The passing yards leader has won the super bowl exactly one time in NFL history, and that was Mahomes in 2022
 

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MountaineerCowboy said:
His 32 passing TDs is 9th all time and his 4,510 yards is 10th all time for QBs in the playoffs.

So what do you mean by "Even back in the 80's into the 90's that was only above average"?
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show me the rings dude.
You look at the stats for that period of time and he is not outstanding in the playoffs.
As I said he was above average but not great
a lot of that yardage came in games when it did not matter
NOW to be fair back then the Fins seemed unable to get him a running attack worth a crap for whatever reason
 

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kskboys said:
Very well said.

Right now, there are two great QBs in the league, Mahomes and Rodgers. And Rodgers looks as if he may be done.

There are a few knocking on the door of greatness, to be seen.
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Aaron Rodgers has a passer rating of 100.1 with 5,894 yards, 45 touchdowns and 13 interceptions in 22 games in the playoffs in his career.
Patrick Mahomes has a passer rating of 105.8 with 5135 yards, 41 touchdowns and 8 interceptions in 18 games in the playoffs in his career.

No argument about the greatness of these two; and with Mahomes look at how QUICKLY he has compiled his stats
8 years vs 19 for rodgers
 
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