Dak vs Jordan Love going forward

[jgboys1]

He's already better. The Cowboys need to move on from Dak. 8 years same results. Time to try to find a guy that can win when the lights get the brightest otherwise we are all just wasting time. This is the most hollow 12-5 team you'll ever see. Total waste of time really.

This is what makes things even worse. We had some good competent teams but we wasted so much time on a QB who can't deliver and comes up small when the competition gets tougher. I think Jerry is ready to sign this clown to an extension in the next few weeks, just to pour more salt on our wounds!

 

[stiletto]

Didn’t people this time last year say Hurts was better only now realizing Hurts was a one hit wonder and Dak is still better.

I don't see any difference. Dak is officially toast as far as leading this team to the promised land. He can win stat padding regular season games and that's it. No since going forward with him anymore. The multiple years of failure are enough proof. Gotta try to find the guy that can win NOW before we are all old as Jerry.

 

[khiladi]

Hurts was basically equivalent or worse than Dak. Hurts had nearly double the turnovers of Dak. Last years superbowl Hurts pretty much lost that game for them when he dropped the ball and they picked it up for the TD.

Dak had 15 INTs last year in 12 games played. Hurts had 15 in 17. Hurts has half the amount of games played, meaning much less experience and they are still dumbing down the offense for Dak.

Hurts went toe to toe with Mahomes in the SB, a place Dak hasn’t even come close to sniffing in 8 years, and anybody that tried to downplay Hurts in the SB has got an agenda. Hurts was the Eagles best player that game.

Both of them are vastly over-rated.

 

[HungryLion]

Yes Love is better.

The packers draft QB’s in round 1 and have the patience to let them develop. They’re a well run organization and they get rewarded for it.

We have Jerry and Cap Boy running the cowboys organization.

Big difference.

 

[jblaze2004]

Watch one year hypes. Love struggled at the beginning of the season. He has got hot though and is playing good but we made life super easy with guys WIDE open all day. Quinn did his best to lose the game on defense. It doesn't matter how well Dak had played. The defense wasn't getting stops when it need to.

Plus remember how everyone was saying Hurts was better than Dak. Hurts numbers was average at best. It takes a team to win in the playoffs. I don't understand why people thought we were going to get far with no run game and a defense that struggled to stop the run and get stops. That has been the story of our defense the last half of the season. And Sunday for some reason we forgot how to play pass defense and stop the run. (Some please take Dan Quinn off of our hands).

Love has a chance to be great in that offense. Their under center play calling and his movement skills is great. They killed us with playaction all day because we couldn't stop the run.

 

[blueblood70]

Watch one year hypes. Love struggled at the beginning of the season. He has got hot though and is playing good but we made life super easy with guys WIDE open all day. Quinn did his best to lose the game on defense. It doesn't matter how well Dak had played. The defense wasn't getting stops when it need to.

Plus remember how everyone was saying Hurts was better than Dak. Hurts numbers was average at best. It takes a team to win in the playoffs. I don't understand why people thought we were going to get far with no run game and a defense that struggled to stop the run and get stops. That has been the story of our defense the last half of the season. And Sunday for some reason we forgot how to play pass defense and stop the run. (Some please take Dan Quinn off of our hands).

Love has a chance to be great in that offense. Their under center play calling and his movement skills is great. They killed us with playaction all day because we couldn't stop the run.

100!!

 

[zeke21]

Jordan Love has the youngest WR core by far and they are the 4th youngest team in NFL history and youngest team this year. This TD throw was absolutely insane. Hardly a case of bad defense, just an elite throw.



the real beauty is seen at 40 seconds when he makes the free blitzer jump and he still releases it 40 yards on a flick of a wrist and hits him in stride. Wasn’t even phased with the 3rd and 7 blitz and the free rusher.

This clip sums up the difference. Yeah the defence wasn't great.. but they had got them into a 3 and long (again).. they come with the blitz.. the free rusher is coming through.. and Love flicks a 35 yarder off his back front, through traffic and hits his receivers outstretched hands perfectly. Gilmore doesn't have the athleticism to go with that but that said, most CBs aren't stopping that play.

Love played lights out.. which compounded how bad the defence looked. Love will be better than Dak.

 

[blueblood70]

Dak is good but he doesn't have the "IT" factor to win playoffs right now. He is already aging as well. Going to command a huge contract. Character guy but he can't get overpaid.

You mean he doesn't have the IT factor to play against a playoff caliber team with not much support from the offensive line the run game and the defense or the game plans and the coaching sure then I can agree he doesn't have it but what this team doesn't have it that's what you need to contemplate the team does not have it...

You're trying to tell me that that CJ Stroud playoff win somehow showed he had it or did it show that he had open guys to throw to time to throw in a defense that basically handed him the game?? Same with love I don't see what you guys think what team game means I mean what is he supposed to do I realize that he threw an interception which by the way the first one not on him go watch that play 15 times the defensive back ran through the receiver grab his shoulder gained leverage and got the interception without a pass interference call I can live with it the referees sucked all year but I'm not blaming Prescott for an interception that was on the receiver end defensive back being physical without a call..

The second interception sure Prescott trusted his receiver was gonna be there he thought he was running an in route didn't never stop that's what happens on a timing route he let the ball go thought his guy was gonna be there and he wasn't that's on Prescott he threw the ball we get it it happens but you know what our defense was terrible it doesn't matter if Prescott played like he did in Seattle you remember the Seattle game where you don't put all game and you score on every drive and barely win is that the way you think football looks because even that Prescott would have played better we still lose that game because the defense can't stop anyone on a consistent basis without turnovers...

 

[Echospacing]

Dak had 15 INTs last year in 12 games played. Hurts had 15 in 17. Hurts has half the amount of games played, meaning much less experience and they are still dumbing down the offense for Dak.

Hurts went toe to toe with Mahomes in the SB, a place Dak hasn’t even come close to sniffing in 8 years, and anybody that tried to downplay Hurts in the SB has got an agenda. Hurts was the Eagles best player that game.

Both of them are vastly over-rated.

I was writing in terms of this year. Hurts was a turnover machine. Bad decisions and fumbles. As for last years superbowl, Hurts lost that game for them with that fumble. I do have an agenda. I hate the Eagles and like the Chiefs. Mahomes had a lot less to work with compared to Hurts on the WR end. Only TE did he have an advantage. Mahomes with last years Philly WR crew last years scores 70 pts. Considering the whole, Mahomes vastly outplayed Hurts in the SB.

 

[khiladi]

I was writing in terms of this year. Hurts was a turnover machine. Bad decisions and fumbles. As for last years superbowl, Hurts lost that game for them with that fumble. I do have an agenda. I hate the Eagles and like the Chiefs. Mahomes had a lot less to work with compared to Hurts on the WR end. Only TE did he have an advantage. Mahomes with last years Philly WR crew last years scores 70 pts. Considering the whole, Mahomes vastly outplayed Hurts in the SB.

We are comparing Dak to Hurts, not Mahomes, who is considered by consensus the best QB in the league and generational and many argue is in the running as the future GOAT and hasn’t been eliminated from the playoffs unless it’s the conference championship game or the SB. Burrow only put up 20 pts and so did the Jaguars, but Hurts put up 35 and again, went tod to toe with Mahomes. Neither Burrow nor Lawrence did what Hurts did.

But again, both him and Dak are vastly over-rated but Hurts has much less experience and this year, the Eagles organization was complete chaos.

 

[Cowboyny]

I realize one year is never enough. We can't tell the future. Things change. Based on his mechanics and decision making, do you think this guy will be better than Dak moving forward? Ignoring age and contracts. Just strictly on the field affect.

Maybe these are unwarranted fears. However, I can't shake this feeling GB may have somehow found another franchise QB capable of winning a SB.

I am hoping he will just be a Baker Mayfield/Jimmy G caliber QB.

It's too early to tell as DC's will figure out his weaknesses, it will depend on how he adjusts. Same goes for Stroud. Just look at Hurts this year as a good example.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Love just getting started.

Dak has reached his ceiling.

Would you trade Dak for Love? Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sydla]

Love is younger and more talented.

Even if they were the same age, I'd still want Love.

 

[Echospacing]

We are comparing Dak to Hurts, not Mahomes, who is considered by consensus the best QB in the league and generational and many argue is in the running as the future GOAT and hasn’t been eliminated from the playoffs unless it’s the conference championship game or the SB. Burrow only put up 20 pts and so did the Jaguars, but Hurts put up 35 and again, went tod to toe with Mahomes. Neither Burrow nor Lawrence did what Hurts did.

But again, both him and Dak are vastly over-rated but Hurts has much less experience and this year, the Eagles organization was complete chaos.

we agree they both suck. I would say Hurts is not going to get any better and he has plenty of experience now. You brought up Mahomes in the context of Hurts going toe to toe with him. The teams went toe to toe, but not the QBs. Mahomes was much better in the sb for the reasons I stated.

 

[perrykemp]

Jordan Love has the youngest WR core by far and they are the 4th youngest team in NFL history and youngest team this year. This TD throw was absolutely insane. Hardly a case of bad defense, just an elite throw.



the real beauty is seen at 40 seconds when he makes the free blitzer jump and he still releases it 40 yards on a flick of a wrist and hits him in stride. Wasn’t even phased with the 3rd and 7 blitz and the free rusher.

It seems like Love is throwing off his back foot the majority of the time. Normally a bad thing right? You'd have to assume that would eventually catch up with him. Obviously it's been working for him on this hot streak.

 

[lk8701]

Go back and look at the scouting reports and draft chatter on Love prior to the 2020 draft. Everybody agreed he had an extremely high ceiling, great tools, etc. You even saw the term "Baby Maholmes" thrown around. The negative was he was raw as hell and had played poorly his final year at Utah State - for reasons hotly debated by scouts and front offices.

Looks like sitting on the bench for 3 years allowed him to refine his game and maximize his physical gifts.

Dak has never had physical tools like Love. Dak HAS maximized the tools he has however.

Trey Lance is a similar caliber prospect as Love.

 

[HungryLion]

Watch one year hypes. Love struggled at the beginning of the season. He has got hot though and is playing good but we made life super easy with guys WIDE open all day. Quinn did his best to lose the game on defense. It doesn't matter how well Dak had played. The defense wasn't getting stops when it need to.

Plus remember how everyone was saying Hurts was better than Dak. Hurts numbers was average at best. It takes a team to win in the playoffs. I don't understand why people thought we were going to get far with no run game and a defense that struggled to stop the run and get stops. That has been the story of our defense the last half of the season. And Sunday for some reason we forgot how to play pass defense and stop the run. (Some please take Dan Quinn off of our hands).

Love has a chance to be great in that offense. Their under center play calling and his movement skills is great. They killed us with playaction all day because we couldn't stop the run.

It’s possible Love is a one year hype.

Then again, he was a highly regarded prospect coming into the draft, a first round pick and was developed for 3 years. So there’s also the stark possibility that he is just a very good QB

 

[perrykemp]

Trey Lance is a similar caliber prospect as Love.

I agree physically.

Where they were different is Love threw over 1100 passes at Utah State. Lance threw for only 318 passes in his entire college career. If you go back over the past 7-8 years or so Lance just hasn't thrown much. He just started that one year in college.

Just more unknowns with Lance at this point. Hopefully the Cowboys give him a long look in the offseason / training camp.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Love has a chance to be great. It's not like the NFC has a bunch of great QBs ahead of him anyway. If Dak can beat up on bad opponents and be in the MVP conversation then of course Love can be a star since he can be a much better QB