Dak > Wince

[Ken]

I mean....doesn't that stat just SCREAM that lol.

 

[Bleu Star]

Romo's gone.

It's beyond time for you all to come to terms with it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's because Romo was the QB. He's the best we've had since Aikman. The other 10 in between were horrific. But yet Romo gets the blame for that playoff loss instead of getting the credit for leading the Boys there. Romo took the Boys down the field. Wasn't his fault Crayton didn't run his route.

You think 17 points at that point in the game was acceptable?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

but neither did Dak until the cooper trade. So if the beginning of the year is all you go on Dak = Foles.

Foles didn't get an upgrade either, he was surrounded by Superbowl winning team. Dak doesn't have that luxury

 

[tyke1doe]

Men lie women lie numbers don’t.

Dak wins more with his team than wentz.

Numbers don't lie, but people can lie when wrongly interpreting numbers.
For example, Eli Manning has more passing yards than Aaron Rodgers and John Elway. Those are the FACTS of numbers.
But if anyone tries to argue that Eli Manning is a BETTER QUARTERBACK than Rodgers and Elway, I would venture to guess that most serious NFL fans, players and coaches would laugh uproariously at that opinion because they would know based on observation that Eli is not better than either quarterback.
Dak's wins are a product of his health. Wentz hasn't been healthy.
Also, Dak had a superior back in Zeke, a soon-to-be Hall-of-Fame tight end in Witten and a top receiver (his first year) in Dez Bryant and one of the best offensive lines in the league coming into his rookie season.
Wentz did not.
These are the variables you must consider.
Again, I doubt anyone working with the knowledge they have now would pick Dak over Wentz.

 

[HungryLion]

They're going to say he had a "stacked team"....as if Matt Ryan's team wasn't stacked, or Flacco or Russ's.

Stacked team that was 4-12 the year before Dak was drafted.

 

[Willfreedom909]

Numbers don't lie, but people can lie when wrongly interpreting numbers.
For example, Eli Manning has more passing yards than Aaron Rodgers and John Elway. Those are the FACTS of numbers.
But if anyone tries to argue that Eli Manning is a BETTER QUARTERBACK than Rodgers and Elway, I would venture to guess that most serious NFL fans, players and coaches would laugh uproariously at that opinion because they would know based on observation that Eli is not better than either quarterback.
Dak's wins are a product of his health. Wentz hasn't been healthy.
Dak had a superior back in Zeke, a soon-to-be Hall-of-Fame tight end in Witten and a top receiver (his first year) in Dez Bryant and one of the best offensive lines in the league coming into the season.
Wentz did not.
These are the variables you must consider.
Again, I doubt anyone working with the knowledge they have now would pick Dak over Wentz.

The difference is most people would take Eli if they knew it came with his 2 SB WINS than Rodgers with 1

 

[HungryLion]

Numbers don't lie, but people can lie when wrongly interpreting numbers.
For example, Eli Manning has more passing yards than Aaron Rodgers and John Elway. Those are the FACTS of numbers.
But if anyone tries to argue that Eli Manning is a BETTER QUARTERBACK than Rodgers and Elway, I would venture to guess that most serious NFL fans, players and coaches would laugh uproariously at that opinion because they would know based on observation that Eli is not better than either quarterback.
Dak's wins are a product of his health. Wentz hasn't been healthy.
Dak had a superior back in Zeke, a soon-to-be Hall-of-Fame tight end in Witten and a top receiver (his first year) in Dez Bryant and one of the best offensive lines in the league coming into the season.
Wentz did not.
These are the variables you must consider.
Again, I doubt anyone working with the knowledge they have now would pick Dak over Wentz.

And Wentz had a team that won the Super Bowl without him, during his “MVP” season. Quite the variables to consider also, I would say.

Hmmm

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Lolol Dak isn’t even the 4th best qb in the east. Dak hasn’t done a thing to carry his team ... Zeke does when he is rolling. Take out zeke and they barely beat a lowly Giants ... hell with zeke they can’t score on Indy .. but Dak is good? ****

A win is a win. Dak has almost 400 yards, 4 TDs 0 picks and did it with no Zeke, Tyron, Martin or Frederick. He made Jarwin look like an all pro. Dak also has more wins then all the other QBs in the division since he has entered the league. Dak is the best QB in the division

 

[Ranched]

You think 17 points at that point in the game was acceptable?

You're looking for an argument and I'm the wrong person to give you one. Could of been 3 points and had Crayton done his job, the rest is history. Sorry for your hate on Romo. You probably hate Dak as well.

Now, I'm going to reply to positive fans and stay away from miserable ones as yourself dwelling on the past. Because fans like you ONLY see it they way they want and not the way it happened.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Stacked team that was 4-12 the year before Dak was drafted.

Yep. Preaching to the choir.

Its funny though....when its time to discuss Cowboys they will tell you how everyone sucks from the coaching to the GM to the players...but when its time to discuss Dak his team is "stacked" lol.

 

[tyke1doe]

The difference is most people would take Eli if they knew it came with his 2 SB WINS than Rodgers with 1

So most people would be Giants fans?
That really doesn't make sense.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Foles didn't get an upgrade either, he was surrounded by Superbowl winning team. Dak doesn't have that luxury

All season, I've been hearing how Injury ridden the Eagles have been. Saying he was surrounded by a superbowl winning team is a half truth.

 

[tyke1doe]

And Wentz had a team that won the Super Bowl without him, during his “MVP” season. Quite the variables to consider also, I would say.

Hmmm

Yes, he led that team to the best record in the NFL. So that also proves that he can lead a team.
Which is why many would consider him over Dak minus the injuries. They've seen what he can do pre-injury.
You do know you made an compelling argument for my point, right?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You're looking for an argument and I'm the wrong person to give you one. Could of been 3 points and had Crayton done his job, the rest is history. Sorry for your hate on Romo. You probably hate Dak as well. Now, I'm going to reply to positive to positive fans and stay away from misery.

Well this is the thing....first off I was a Romo fan and I'm a Dak fan as well. I just hold posters accountable. I'm not going to sit here and allow for you to say "Patrick Crayton cost us the game" because that narrative is a lie. Not only that but the play was on 3RD DOWN.

IF you want someone to hold your hand while you post that's not me. You say something I disagree with I'm going to call you out on it. If you can't handle that then why even be on this site or anywhere?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

All season, I've been hearing how Injury ridden the Eagles have been. Saying he was surrounded by a superbowl winning team is a half truth.

Well we heard all offseason on this site how great of a offseason the Eagirls were having....what happened to all of those moves?

 

[Seven]

I like what Dak did Today. But Foles won the Big one. So if I have to pay for a quarterback; I'll go with the proven commodity. Dak will have to do a lot more in the playoffs to change my mind.

He already has against a cheat factory in Green Bay.......he didn't stand a chance beating GB AND the refs but damn near did.

 

[HungryLion]

Yes, he led that team to the best record in the NFL. So that also proves that he can lead a team.
Which is why many would consider him over Dak minus the injuries. They've seen what he can do pre-injury.
You do know you made an compelling argument for my point, right?

Lol no I didn’t.

You list all of factors that Dak had helping him, as extenuating circumstances.

Yet Wentz played on a roster good enough to win a Super Bowl WITHOUT him last year and this year a team he led to a losing record, won 3 straight without him to make the playoffs.

Wentz has just as many “extenuating circumstances” for his success, as Dak does.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Well we heard all offseason on this site how great of a offseason the Eagirls were having....what happened to all of those moves?

Well they got the same chance of winning in the playoffs as we do. So perhaps to early to point and laugh at them.

 

[PUSHfold]

Dak's wins are a product of his health. Wentz hasn't been healthy.
Also, Dak had a superior back in Zeke, a soon-to-be Hall-of-Fame tight end in Witten and a top receiver (his first year) in Dez Bryant and one of the best offensive lines in the league coming into his rookie season.
Wentz did not.
These are the variables you must consider.
Again, I doubt anyone working with the knowledge they have now would pick Dak over Wentz.

So Dak's 14 game winning drives(most ever by a QB in 3 years) are just because he was on the field, lol? Then why haven't more QBs had this many since so many QBs are so much better and Dak's the worst Qb in NFL? Wince is 3-11 on game winning drives.
Wince last year had a top 3 rushing attack and this year he wasn't anywhere near as good without it.
Dude You're bringing up a 40 year old Witten? Wince has had much better TEs than Dak. Dez Bryant?? Really? top flight? What a joke...is that why he sat at home until he Saints finally decided to give him a chance weeks into the season? If Dez was "top flight" he'd have had more than Baltimore offering him a contract.
O-line? Yeah Wentz didn't have a "great" one his rookie season and Wince was pitiful. 2017 Wince had THE BEST O-LINE in the league arguably and Wince's o-line was much better than Dak's this year especially at pass blocking. Dallas o-line hasn't been the same AT ALL since 2016, so for one year Dak had a great o-line.

Dak may not be as naturally talented as Wince but guess what Wince is doing with that talent right now? Sitting his *** on the sidelines because he can't finish a 16 game season without breaking something. All of that talent means absolutely NOTHING if it can't be used on the field.
I would take Dak 100 out of 100 times over Wince.