Dak > Wince

[PJTHEDOORS]

LOL, Wentz is so much better than Dak it is actually funny that this is still a debate. They both have of the chart intangibles, but on physical ability Wentz dominates him. JJ would do a Wentz for Dak trade in a New York minute.

Funny as in you believe it. Sad.

 

[NumOneQB]

SMH ..keep believing that bs...he has 400 yards against a crap NY team or teams with 10% of their secondary active every other game he has 150 yards. Alex Smith better, Wentz better,Eli better, Foles better, Sudfield better ..probably Colt McCoy better.

Your football credibility goes down the toilet by even mentioning Colt McCoy. The hate for Dak is just flat out ridiculous on these boards......

 

[Bleu Star]

LOL, Wentz is so much better than Dak it is actually funny that this is still a debate. They both have of the chart intangibles, but on physical ability Wentz dominates him. JJ would do a Wentz for Dak trade in a New York minute.

You make me chuckle. Thank you.

 

[Birdgang]

What is funny that 3 years later people still comparing Apples to oranges. Both young QBs that have their own unique traits that make them both good and bad. Neither team's fans have much to complain about ... but we all know they will find something. There is no PERFECT Qb .... some better then others, but what's key is the team and staff around them to balance their faults. Both have shown they can win games and be leaders. growing pains are exactly that.


Biggest things I see against the two " not comparing them as we all know their strengths and weaknesses " Point is both guys you can win the SB with and have a team built around.


Dak , he needs to protect the ball "fumbling" working on pocket presence/study Defense. He is a young QB and has all the stuff you can build and work with. Time should fix ,his issues because experience is the best tool. You dont have to have a rocket arm to win. Dallas has been working on building the right team around him.


Wentz- Needs to work on self-preservation and learn to protect himself. Like above , a young QB that has everything you want to build on. Injuries are a concern but also something you can teach to decrease chances of. He is not in FSC and cant run all over people in NFL nor does he have to do it all on him. Bones break it happens, his AACL was just a freak / dumb luck. Now its not like he has osteoporosis but maybe should look into Diet/meds to improve density.

 

[Nav22]

Wentz is a loser until proven otherwise.

Nick Foles has made that abundantly clear.

Foles: 4-1
Wentz: 5-6

 

[Irvin88_4life]

All the people saying Wentz is better haha main reason Wentz can't be better than Dak because he is soft as wet toliet paper. You can't stay on the field, you aren't dependable. Not only that Wentz crumbles under pressure and doesn't have a very high football IQ as evident by his dumb decision making in clutch situations. Can't believe some of us have to lay the facts down but then again any teams fan that blindly hates their QB and willing to make up false ideas about him just proves my point even more.

 

[sbark]

A more pressing question.....is blake jarwin on a trajectory that has him passing eagles 2nd round Draft pick dallas goedert very soon?

 

[tyke1doe]

Foles is a veteran, but a journeyman who hasn’t had much success for the duration of his career.

It’s mind-boggling to me how he has saved their season.

I know this sounds trite, but sometimes people just need a chance and someone to believe in them. Shrug.

 

[CWR]

Can we put this debate to bed once and for all?

Pay the man something fair and let's get on with acquiring some Lombardi trophies.

Linehan.... Gone
Kellen Moore... Gone
Dak..... Much improved afterwards

#beastmode

I was keying in on Daks footwork this game and wow. Its pretty clear that a majority of his bad throws are in large part due to him stepping backwards or not setting his feet before throwing the ball.

There's many people on here who are much more well versed at studying tape and diagnosing his play I am certain, but it looked pretty obvious to me.

This actually gives me hope we can coach that out of him and he will become a much more confident QB.

I am a fan of the guy on and off the field, but Ive had my doubts as well. His turn around since Coop has me really excited again.

 

[Bleu Star]

All the people saying Wentz is better haha main reason Wentz can't be better than Dak because he is soft as wet toliet paper. You can't stay on the field, you aren't dependable. Not only that Wentz crumbles under pressure and doesn't have a very high football IQ as evident by his dumb decision making in clutch situations. Can't believe some of us have to lay the facts down but then again any teams fan that blindly hates their QB and willing to make up false ideas about him just proves my point even more.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

What OL wasn't as bad as some claim? Dallas OL? What games have you been watching, the OL has been terrible all that. Even the coach was fired they were so bad. So every QB is allowed to have weapons but Dak? Somehow it's bad that Dak needs actual receivers that can catch the ball. Yep that makes a ton of sense. You Dak haters are the worst kind of "fan"

How long have you been A Cowboys fan? The offensive line being bad isn't that unusual around here, in recent past it has been the norm. A quarterback here, needs to learn how to get around a bad offensive line. It's hard to sympathies on that point for me, when I've seen much worse offensive lines, and I just see it as another excuse. Those excuses is what irks me a bit. I mean when people say the OL is bad, I'm like if Dak is around here long enough, expect much worse lines than this.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

How long have you been A Cowboys fan? The offensive line being bad isn't that unusual around here, in recent past it has been the norm. A quarterback here, needs to learn how to get around a bad offensive line. It's hard to sympathies on that point for me, when I've seen much worse offensive lines, and I just see it as another excuse. Those excuses is what irks me a bit. I mean when people say the OL is bad, I'm like if Dak is around here long enough, expect much worse lines than this.

What? You can't be serious with that entire statement, forget about the flip flopping you are doing

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Your football credibility goes down the toilet by even mentioning Colt McCoy. The hate for Dak is just flat out ridiculous on these boards......

Some people don't hate dak, but the delusions some people have sometimes. It's a bit much when you see threads around here proclaiming Dak being on par or greater than the likes of Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc. I think people should hold off on that kind of stuff until Dak proves himself and first wins in the playoffs and then ultimately a super bowl. Dak does have some nice traits. Now he has a chance to prove himself. Homerism is annoying. There nothing wrong with being a fan as long as it is based on a little realism. Personally, I hope the kid does well during the playoffs, but I'm not going to get out the anointing oil until he proves he can win some games.

 

[DStar22]

Better than Wentz I dunno, but Dak had a great clutch game against the Giants. IF he can continue to do that consistently then he can be our long term QB. lets hope he can do it when needed for 4 games...

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

What? You can't be serious with that entire statement, forget about the flip flopping you are doing

Sure I am serious. We've had a line considered worse than the 1989 one at one point under romo. Lines don't last. Romo started out with a good line. One game the announcer made a comment about how that line seemed like it had seemed to age over night. It hit its low point when analysts were saying that statistically it was worst than what we had in 1989. Then some good drafting by the cowboys and we had an elite line again. But history tends to repeat itself and just like it happened under romo, I've been fearing this line is aging fast. It's not as bad as some of you make it out to be, and we drafted a piece to hopefully bring it back some youth. But who knows? I expect this line to eventually get a lot worse than it is now, so I find it comical that people are treating it like it is the worst all time, and if Dak is going to be Quarterback here for a long time, then he would need to be able to deal with lines much worse than what we have now. You can't just keep drafting Offensive Linemen in the first round every year. There a lot of teams in the NFL, where the fans could whine about the line, that is just the hand that you are dealt with. You don't think a quarterback should be able to adjust to deficiencies in the team?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Their second yes but their offense was almost completely healthy the first 2 games Foles played.

Dak on the other hand dealt with the worst receiving and TE group in the league and not to mention a beat up and injured OL.

I think you guys are exaggerating how bad things are here because you are fans of your team and Dak's your guy. Every team in the NFL faces injuries, and I think the red skins and eagles had it worse this year than the cowboys in that department.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Sure I am serious. We've had a line considered worse than the 1989 one at one point under romo. Lines don't last. Romo started out with a good line. One game the announcer made a comment about how that line seemed like it had seemed to age over night. It hit its low point when analysts were saying that statistically it was worst than what we had in 1989. Then some good drafting by the cowboys and we had an elite line again. But history tends to repeat itself and just like it happened under romo, I've been fearing this line is aging fast. It's not as bad as some of you make it out to be, and we drafted a piece to hopefully bring it back some youth. But who knows? I expect this line to eventually get a lot worse than it is now, so I find it comical that people are treating it like it is the worst all time, and if Dak is going to be Quarterback here for a long time, then he would need to be able to deal with lines much worse than what we have now. You can't just keep drafting Offensive Linemen in the first round every year. There a lot of teams in the NFL, where the fans could whine about the line, that is just the hand that you are dealt with. You don't think a quarterback should be able to adjust to deficiencies in the team?

I haven't seen anybody but you talk about this being the worst OL of all time. This OL has been terrible this season and to say otherwise shows either you don't know what you're watching or just trying to push the Dak being bad agenda. We have spent 3 first round picks on the OL and none were available yesterday but look at what Dak did. Did he not overcome that plus not having a run game? Not only that but Frederick hasn't been available all year and Martin and Tyron have been injured. Sure on paper and healthy they are good but that's not been the case this season.

 

[Blackspider214]

Wentz has accomplished zero in this league. Zero. His team for second year in a row is making a run without him. Foles adds a spark that Wentz does not add. I have said this since day one but so many on here and media just crowned him without doing anything. He had a good stretch in 2017 and that's it. The other 2 years, he had his team at the bottom of the division. Well until Foles bailed them out this year. Had Wentz stayed in, they would have finished 3rd place. I still believe them placing Foles as the starter was more of a decision to right this ship than it was that Wentz was hurt.

Most overrated QB in this league by far.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I think you guys are exaggerating how bad things are here because you are fans of your team and Dak's your guy. Every team in the NFL faces injuries, and I think the red skins and eagles had it worse this year than the cowboys in that department.

No I'm showing facts. Foles in the first 2 games had almost his entire offense healthy and he looked so bad they rushed back Wentz.

Funny you want to make excuses for all these other teams but want to push your Dak agenda for no reason but simple hate. Dak supporters aren't blind like you Dak haters.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I haven't seen anybody but you talk about this being the worst OL of all time. This OL has been terrible this season and to say otherwise shows either you don't know what you're watching or just trying to push the Dak being bad agenda. We have spent 3 first round picks on the OL and none were available yesterday but look at what Dak did. Did he not overcome that plus not having a run game? Not only that but Frederick hasn't been available all year and Martin and Tyron have been injured. Sure on paper and healthy they are good but that's not been the case this season.

My main problem with the whole whining about the OL is that people are just using it as a crutch, and to deflect blame from their guy onto somebody else. I could understand it if it was one of those lines in recent memory where we see them having several people have a clear line to the quarterback. Yeah the line is banged up a bit, but its not to the point of being ridiculous and we have seen other quarterbacks around the NFL being able to still earn their bread and butter with similarly bad lines. And then we have some people around here who talk like we need to do free agent signing or use another first round draft to give dak the line he deserves and that gets to the point of being ridiculous, since the team has other holes and you can't just keep spending on the OL. And yes, if dak would be here for 10 years or more, wouldn't you think that the line will be much worse than it is now on some of those years?