Dak's injury is a reminder

[Johnny23]

Dak's in line with guys like Steve Young, John Elway,Aaron Rodgers, Fran Tarkenton,Steve McNair on the quarterback scrambling scale or our very own Captain Comeback himself Roger Staubach. They are all prolific passers but at some point injuries or their running wild got them beat to hell.

They're not Vick,Lamar,RG3,Randall Cunningham were their running superceded their passing but they are mobile, running quarterbacks. John Elway has bum knees because of his scrambling gunslinger style. It's what got him to 3 Super Bowls in the 1980s. Steve Young admitted he needed to sit behind Joe and learn to not just trust his legs and scrambling ability. Young had to retire to concussions because of the hits he took as a dual threat.

Everyone of these guys are favorable on the all-time quarterback rushing list.

Typically people ignore the fact these guys and not just the uber athletes like Vick get beat up because of their scrambling ability.

I think that's what's Lee's talking about. Regardless of if you're a Vick,Lamar, or one of the guys mentioned in my post you're going to get injured and miss games with that style of play. As maybe a more pure pocket guy like Rivers is more durable.

I could add Joe Montana. Who got beat up and could run a little and improv.

 

[Seven]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

Not enough to talk about at the Packer MB when Golden Boy gets his *** handed to him?

Go away.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

He’s a mobile QB imo. Like a Russell Wilson lite.

 

[IceBowler]

This team's problems ARE NOT with the QB position .. with Dak OR Andy. Just stop for a minute, back away from the keyboard and actually WATCH a game. You'll be amazed if you're honest with yourself. Then .. go back to posting drivel about QBs.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Dak is built like a fullback and doesn’t run much outside of goal line situations. He’s low risk except for the freak accident that we saw.

Besides that, he’s proven to be a more than decent pocket passer and doesn’t need to use his legs to make plays like a good number of these hotshot QBs in the top-10. Dak is going to have a long, productive career in this league.

Russell Wilson is a low risk runner because he doesn't take hits. Dak takes big hits.

 

[RoboQB]

Always drink your milk.

 

[Redball Express]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

I'm sorry..come again.



You say we need to remember running QBs have a short shelf life?

I think us old timers know that. Staubach retired at 38 from too many concussions.

Saw a video today where he wanted to play a couple of more years before he retired but he was afraid he would not be able to remember his grand children's name if he did.

Yeah..that QB running stuff is risk-city.

And now Dak.

Maybe there should be some kind of rule change.

Like if a QB runs he can run as far as he likes but the refs will whistle the play dead after 10 yards. This stops the play before any tackling occurs. This reduces injuries potentially.

They have installed all sorts of rule changes for QB protection already.

What's another rule?

 

[IceBowler]

I'm sorry..come again.



You say we need to remember running QBs have a short shelf life?

I think us old timers know that. Staubach retired at 38 from too many concussions.

Saw a video today where he wanted to play a couple of more years before he retired but he was afraid he would not be able to remember his grand children's name if he did.

Yeah..that QB running stuff is risk-city.

And now Dak.

Maybe there should be some kind of rule change.

Like if a QB runs he can run as far as he likes but the refs will whistle the play dead after 10 yards. This stops the play before any tackling occurs. This reduces injuries potentially.

They have installed all sorts of rule changes for QB protection already.



What's another rule?

I like what Jack Lambert, the Steeler HOF Middle LB said, after the "In the grasp" rule was first established .. "Hell, they oughta put skirts on 'em."

 

[DandyDon52]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

Well there is only one reason qb's get hurt running, STUPIDITY !
A QB can run all he wants, if he avoids contact ! That requires him and his coaches to not be STUPID!

Dak got hurt because he and his coaches, and even jones boys are stupid.
Dak could have slid last week, and he would not have a broken leg right now.
Instead he was running like a RB, trying to run thru tackles, he got hit, kept going lol and the 2nd guy was trying to tackle dak, and dak was stiff arming
him in his face, trying to run thru him, and the guys knee slammed into daks ankle. Snap!
That doesnt happen if he slides before the 1st guy. That simple.
He already had a first down, but just got carried away.

Dak quit sliding back in 2017 or 18, and his coaches, and the jones boys evidently thought that was ok.
Dak runs the option play where he runs like a rb if he keeps it and that is not a smart play. Dak should run only from the pocket ad lib.

Now that play dak got hurt on was a designed qb draw, kellen boy genius called it, and usually they only use that in first and goal situations.
Even then I have seen dak take hits trying to score, but most times he doesnt get hit. So really if it is open run, if not go down to avoid contact.

That way there is always another play, another series another game. If he gets hurt , thats it done for season.

Even mahomes last year in sb was running thru tackles, and he scored, didnt get hurt, but it was stupid.
The team just paid half a billion for him, so is it smart to let him do that?? I dont think it is lol.

Dak was playing for a 35-40 million contract, so was it smart for him to not be sliding?? to be running like a RB? No it wasnt.
Run out of bounds before contact , go down or slide before contact, it is pretty simple.
If they dont do that all the time then yes they can get hurt, which hurts them and the team.
This is what the slide rule was created for, but players and coaches dont seem to get it.

I just hope dalton has the sense to avoid contact, because he takes off and runs at times too.

 

[G2]

You had to really stretch this topic to get your Dalton hate in there. "Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning. Have a little faith Moriarity!"

Stating Dalton isn't as mobile is not a stretch or hate.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

This narrative is not factually correct. Pocket QB’s are probably injured more.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

Tony was often killed in the pocket. I'm less concerned about Dak running in the open field than getting nailed in the pocket. He was a running QB all through college.

The foot injury was a fluke. Could have happened behind the LOS too. The top QBs run some. That's the game. Can't win with Stabler ball unless you're the Snake.

 

[buybuydandavis]

This narrative is not factually correct. Pocket QB’s are probably injured more.

See our previous franchise QB for details.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Dak was on pace to throw for over 6,000 yards and all of a sudden he's a running quarterback now?

Being a running QB doesn't mean you can't throw. Go ask Staubach.

 

[DallasEast]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well now you haters got what you wanted because Dalton ain't running anywhere. Have fun with that.

Feel better there little buddy?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dak isn't a running QB. And a QB sometimes.....has to run.....

But he has to be smart about it. Take what they give you....slide or go out of bounds,

 

[JBS]

OP reminder

99% of his posts are trash. There is no other point of this post other than to remind you of this fact

 

[Redsfan_83]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

Dak in 2019: 52/277
Jackson in 2019: 176/1206
Mahomes in 2019: 43/218 (injury)...2018: 60/272
Kyler in 2019: 93/544

Do you consider Mahomes a running QB? He has the threat to run, which combined with the weapons he has on offense makes him a very dangerous...aka..same ideology as with Dak

 

[blueblood70]

The reason NFL teams shy away from running quarterbacks is because they inevitably get injured, leaving their team without it's starting quarterback.
Scrambling is okay in limited instances, but when a quarterback exposes himself to tacklers, the more he gets hit, the more likely he is to be injured.
Michael Vick is the classic example, but Carson Wentz is more recent.
Lamar Jackson is tempting fate, and the Ravens will be done if he goes down.
There is no other point to this thread than to remind fans of this fact.

dont agree,

the college game has now made its way to the nfl and the QB running RPOs, called runs , and off schedule runs are normal.. its part of the game , even in offenses that see more traditional offenses.

that play Dak ran was one all qbs run since the beginning of football in the nfl.. Football , ie FEET , running its part of the game..did they tell Roger Staubach to not run? Steve young, Cunningham etc etc it has always been around and not big deal, bad luck happens where a tackle happens awkwardly and guy gets hurt LVE, LEE, and many players around the league in all positions have injuries' happen..

Dak hardly runs anymore but you arent taking that out of a qbs nature, i Rogers, Brady, and others who dont normally run do that a few times game or more..

getting hurt is part of game and no one will pull back and say oh we cant run that because a player might get hurt..thats insane..

we arent running a Ravens offense here and again Dak hardly runs , its just how it is..football is tough sport and thats the reminder, that is all ..