Dallas at Houston post-game thoughts

ddh33

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Well, that was pretty ugly. I think the Texans game-planned the Cowboys though. Don't they know that is an unwritten rule in the game? ;)

In all seriousness, I know that this game was supposed to be the "walk through", but it sure didn't feel that way. The team looked flat, and it showed. Needless to say, there will be plenty of things for the coaches and team to look at and improve upon.

I thought the road bothered the team. Maybe that's just me though. I wondered if a lot of the penalties and mental mistakes could be traced back to that. For that reason, I thought this game was good for the team.

Anyone else feel a little weird watching the Texans sort of act like this was a big game? Don't get me wrong, they brought a lot more energy to the game than Dallas did, and it showed. Still, you kind of felt like this one was a preseason game to one team and a big deal to the other.

Here's some good news though. Ultimately, the Cowboys managed to climb out of their early hole, and despite the worst play we have seen of this current team, they were back into the game when the starters finally did leave.

I didn't think Romo played well tonight. Sometimes it looks like he's aiming the ball instead of throwing it. Not many people talk about it, but he's still a guy learning. Sometimes he looks more like a guy trying not to mistake. Sometimes he looks like a gunslinger. He's already good - with room to improve - and I think he's going to get plenty better.

Are people coming around on Brad Johnson yet? I think he's a solid backup QB.

I thought the O-Line was poor tonight. It looked like Houston was doing a lot of moving, and I thought they were trying to really attack Dallas. Nothing wrong with that. The Cowboys just didn't handle it well. They committed some penalties, which we hadn't seen until now. And I thought the two tackles struggled more. That may be more rust, but that's why you have pre-season.

The running game didn't do a whole lot. Obviously, you can trace a lot of that back to the O-line play. Things seemed pretty clogged up all night. More importantly, Julius Jones left the game favoring his ankle (?). Hopefully he's okay.

The receivers didn't blow me away with the exception of Sam Hurd. I thought he had a very nice night. He's certainly your number four receiver, and no one is threatening at the moment.

Tony Curtis, you just made this team - unless you screw it up.


The D-line got abused for big portions of the game. The Texans ran right at them all night, and the defense didn't do much about it. It was good to see Jason Hatcher back. I think he's got a chance to have a nice season.

Demarcus Ware is an absolute beast. He chased down Ahman Green. He covered. He rushed the QB. Unfortunately, he still doesn't have much help on the opposite side. Spencer got a nice lick in on the QB once, but he seemed quiet again. Carpenter was too. Bradie James seemed solid though. Kevin Burnett had a sack early in the game. Not long after he left with an injured ankle. He needs to be alright. A lot of fans have been wanting to move linebackers and trade them away. Suddenly, I'm wanting some more LBs.

The corners on this team officially scare me. I haven't worried about it as much as other fans until now. I know that your fourth corner is always one play away from being needed to help shut down your opponent. I guess things change though when the corner you need to replace is Terence Newman...No one stood out to me in a positive way tonight. The guys who stood out most were Joey Thomas for completely wiffing on the TE, and Jacque Reeves for being beaten repeatedly. Also, the whole group of DBs and defense seemed to have no idea what to do about those short slants that kept killing them. Playing 8-10 yards probably isn't the solution though. Like I said, there will be plenty of coaching to do. That's why you have these games.

Abe Elam flashed tonight. I thought he played his tail off.


Martin Gramatica might have kicked himself right off the team. When you've got a rookie right on your heels, you can't afford to go missing any kicks. Folk hasn't. Martin has.

Special teams coverages need some work too after that Jacoby Jones 91 yard punt return.


Like I said, this is why you play these pre-season games. Maybe the Cowboys decided this wouldn't be the walk through game after all? Maybe they read too many press clippings? Maybe they just didn't care as much about this one as Houston did. For whatever reason, the team was out-played. This should get everyone's attention, and there's still plenty of time to get things right.
 

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i think is good for teams to lose in pre-season, so they can see mistakes and areas of improvement....
 
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djtavo;1605726 said:
i think is good for teams to lose in pre-season, so they can see mistakes and areas of improvement....

You never want to lose... Ask any coach, owner or player.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1605730 said:
You never want to lose... Ask any coach, owner or player.

Nobody said we WANTED to lose.

Pt being that if you DO lose, it's alot better to do it during PRESEASON-that way, you can practice your mistakes better.

It's alot like studying for a math exam-is it a BAD thing if, let's say, you go through a bunch of problems, and end up getting the WRONG answer? Of course not-through getting them wrong, you end up wrestling with them more to see how you can PERFECT them.
 
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TunaFan33;1605732 said:
Nobody said we WANTED to lose.

Pt being that if you DO lose, it's alot better to do it during PRESEASON-that way, you can practice your mistakes better.

It's alot like studying for a math exam-is it a BAD thing if, let's say, you go through a bunch of problems, and end up getting the WRONG answer? Of course not-through getting them wrong, you end up wrestling with them more to see how you can PERFECT them.

Dude, the "want to lose" part was in reference to saying it's good to lose in the preseaon, good coaches will find areas to improve on even with victories... NO NEED FOR ALL CAPS!
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1605738 said:
Dude, the "want to lose" part was in reference to saying it's good to lose in the preseaon, good coaches will find areas to improve on even with victories... NO NEED FOR ALL CAPS!

Done!:)

Anyhow-again, I, nor anyone said, they're exactly "dancing in Bourbon Street" over this loss, didn't they? I too was disgusted by areas they didn't play well.

My pt being that I'd rather see them screw up now, rather than in wk 1 against the Nats.
 
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I definitely believe it's best to get the mistakes exposed now... That secondary has really got to play better... Newman would have played if it were a regular season game.
 

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maybe they took lynch's words to hart and decided to follow the "preseason code of ethics in this game ", shame on Houston for breaking it :eek:
 

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i got worry for roy williams when i saw this hit .... 300 pound line-man got him good on this play...
 

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this game reminded ME of last year(even though pre season). The offense seemed to struggle against a weak h town d, and the d could not stop them when it counted. They were getting 4 plus yards a carry against the first team and Roy was the Roy of last year. I KNOW THIS IS PRE SEASON BUT HOW COULD YOU NOT BE CONCERNED WITH A BS EFFORT LIKE THAT? We played one of the bottom team in the league tonight and their first team killed ours.
 

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ddh33;1605713 said:
The D-line got abused for big portions of the game. The Texans ran right at them all night, and the defense didn't do much about it. It was good to see Jason Hatcher back. I think he's got a chance to have a nice season.

Demarcus Ware is an absolute beast. He chased down Ahman Green. He covered. He rushed the QB. Unfortunately, he still doesn't have much help on the opposite side. Spencer got a nice lick in on the QB once, but he seemed quiet again. Carpenter was too. Bradie James seemed solid though. Kevin Burnett had a sack early in the game. Not long after he left with an injured ankle. He needs to be alright. A lot of fans have been wanting to move linebackers and trade them away. Suddenly, I'm wanting some more LBs.

The corners on this team officially scare me. I haven't worried about it as much as other fans until now. I know that your fourth corner is always one play away from being needed to help shut down your opponent. I guess things change though when the corner you need to replace is Terence Newman...No one stood out to me in a positive way tonight. The guys who stood out most were Joey Thomas for completely wiffing on the TE, and Jacque Reeves for being beaten repeatedly. Also, the whole group of DBs and defense seemed to have no idea what to do about those short slants that kept killing them. Playing 8-10 yards probably isn't the solution though. Like I said, there will be plenty of coaching to do. That's why you have these games.

Abe Elam flashed tonight. I thought he played his tail off.


Martin Gramatica might have kicked himself right off the team. When you've got a rookie right on your heels, you can't afford to go missing any kicks. Folk hasn't. Martin has.

Special teams coverages need some work too after that Jacoby Jones 91 yard punt return.


Like I said, this is why you play these pre-season games. Maybe the Cowboys decided this wouldn't be the walk through game after all? Maybe they read too many press clippings? Maybe they just didn't care as much about this one as Houston did. For whatever reason, the team was out-played. This should get everyone's attention, and there's still plenty of time to get things right.
I honestly had no problems with Romo's play except the deep ball that he severely underthrew. The guy still makes plays, but if i'm being honest, it felt like last year when Romo didn't have a ton of chances, cause the defense let the Toxins just slowly ease down the field.

Cornerback should be the number 1 priority next year in the draft. I say 1st or 2nd 1st rounder should go to a playmaking offensive player, and the second pick should go to a corner. The 2nd rounder should be a Tackle (nose or Offensive) and third rounder should be another corner, but Glenn is near finished, and Henry is just flat out too slow.
 

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WAKE UP our D isnt what I or any of U thought it was. I know its only pre season but both teams were hyped up during this game,and Dallas just got whopped on D. This is hopefully just a wake up call but when do we call SPEARS and CARP bust. A Henry better get better magically before the season or were screwed. REAL TALK
 

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ddh33;1605713 said:
Anyone else feel a little weird watching the Texans sort of act like this was a big game? Don't get me wrong, they brought a lot more energy to the game than Dallas did, and it showed. Still, you kind of felt like this one was a preseason game to one team and a big deal to the other.
That's because that's exactly what it was. ;)

Do I wish we'd looked better? Sure. But the only thing that truly worried me, besides our corners if Newman can't play (which he should) was that Romo looked bad. He can't lob the ball up into double coverage just because T.O. is the intended target. He just looked poor overall.

But besides that, yes, the Texans had regular-season crowd and player intensity, and we didn't. Actually, I'll guarantee you their crowd was more fired up for this preseason game than they will be for several real games, even division ones. Sad (for them), but true.
 

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Man, I love how everyone is predicting doom and gloom after one preseason loss, when the last two weeks people had nothing but praise.

The fact that we couldn't move the ball against the Texans is something to be concerned about, but it's nowhere near as bleak as most of you are painting it out to be.
 

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TheCount;1605849 said:
Man, I love how everyone is predicting doom and gloom after one preseason loss, when the last two weeks people had nothing but praise.

The fact that we couldn't move the ball against the Texans is something to be concerned about, but it's nowhere near as bleak as most of you are painting it out to be.

If you really live predictions of doom and gloom, you should be happy. I won't predict anything based on a preseason road loss, but defense against their runs was my main concern.
 

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couple of notes:
hou was able to run the ball because ratliff was at nt
oline wasn't that bad, rbs ran tentatively and did not make good decisions. holes weren't massive, but they were there.

flozell struggled against the smaller guy and against mario williams. mario played a good game. leonard davis was ok, when he lunges he fails. must be too difficult as a big guy to change direction.

ware didn't have a great game, he needs to have a great game because no one else on the defense can bring pressure without a gimmic. lost containment on a number of plays, perhaps this is the result of philips vs bp. on a lot of plays hou just got the right call on stunts and such.

anthony spencer was the reason for the td on the escape by shaub to jacoby jones. he was supposed to rush to the outside, inside rushed to the inside fell down and lost containment. he also wasn't good on rush def, nor pass def. just gets out of position too many times.

romo was ok, still struggles with passing the ball with some air as babe said. did the same last year as well. i think teams will cover the middle and force him to throw to the outside over the top.

overall it wasn't a bad game, dallas was really only losing by the punt ret td. but it wasn't the total domination like the first preseason games.
 
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