Dallas could have RD1 trade partners

[LatinMind]

If Zack Martin fell which is expected, Dallas could draft him and i think they would. But with BAL and NYJ and the Dolphins right behind them that would be interesting. MIA is in desperate need of OL help. When they lost Martin they had to sign vets and were bad. They need to upgrade T and G. BAL is desperate need of a T, andthe Jets need that G. MIA could jump both and take Martin. Giving Dallas that 3rd.

So Dallas would then be at 19 with AZ right behind them looking to get a OLB, Dee Ford is the name that keeps coming up for them. But the Eagles are looking at that OLB spot aswell. Give me another RD3 pick.

Its all just spec but its all very well realistic. Dallas moving down 6 spots drafting at 22 and picking up 2 extra RD3 picks.

Using CBS Draft rankings these players rank in that 22 area
21 Aaron Donald
22 Timmy Jernigan
23 Xavier Su'a Filo

I dont think Donald will get past CHI.

And in the 22 Range i could see more like these players in this area as a target

Timmy Jernigan
Kony Ealy
Rashede Hageman
Ryan Shazier
Kelvin Benjamin
Kyle Fuller

 

[BigStar]

That would be an amazing scoop and appreciate the optimism/efforts to these topics btw. (2 3rd rounders for 6 spots would be incredibly lucky, but I've seen crazier scenarios projected) The scenarios do make sense in the detail you laid out and is interesting to think about. The second PHI trade is harder to imagine then the trade down with MIA and it seems teams don't follow the trade value chart as much since the new CBA.

 

[Bowdown27]

I really do not want Martin. We seriously need defense and if we go oline I will be so disappointed

 

[Zimmy Lives]

If Zack Martin fell which is expected, Dallas could draft him and i think they would. But with BAL and NYJ and the Dolphins right behind them that would be interesting. MIA is in desperate need of OL help. When they lost Martin they had to sign vets and were bad. They need to upgrade T and G. BAL is desperate need of a T, andthe Jets need that G. MIA could jump both and take Martin. Giving Dallas that 3rd.

So Dallas would then be at 19 with AZ right behind them looking to get a OLB, Dee Ford is the name that keeps coming up for them. But the Eagles are looking at that OLB spot aswell. Give me another RD3 pick.

Its all just spec but its all very well realistic. Dallas moving down 6 spots drafting at 22 and picking up 2 extra RD3 picks.

Using CBS Draft rankings these players rank in that 22 area
21 Aaron Donald
22 Timmy Jernigan
23 Xavier Su'a Filo

I dont think Donald will get past CHI.

And in the 22 Range i could see more like these players in this area as a target

Timmy Jernigan
Kony Ealy
Rashede Hageman
Ryan Shazier
Kelvin Benjamin
Kyle Fuller

No offense, LM but it seems that tackle prospects with short arms (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/41295/like-bulaga-arm-length-i-dogs-riley-reiff) have a history of going after #20. I don't know if he would be all that desirable at #16.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

MIA is in desperate need of OL help

You must of missed that they picked up David Arkin from our practice squad last year...........

 

[BigStar]

I really do not want Martin. We seriously need defense and if we go oline I will be so disappointed

D would/should take precedent but he could fill in @ G or Tackle if that's how the cards are laid out, etc. (No legitimate trade down options and Donald/Barr/Pryor are gone) Ideally if that scenario came about, we could trade down and scoop Ealey/Ford.

 

[Hostile]

I really do not want Martin. We seriously need defense and if we go oline I will be so disappointed

This is a DL deep draft. It is not OL deep. If we grab a bookend RT in round 1 and still address DL in the next rounds it isn't any reason to get disappointed. Zack Martin flat out makes this a better team.

 

[TwoDeep3]

If Martin is the best player at sixteen, then to heck with trading down. There will be defenders later in the day.

I am always told what a first is worth here. The arguments are endless. But to me if shoring up the Bernie spot would make this a line that opens holes for Murray and seals off defenses getting at Romo, then pick him.

There will be enough money if Ware hauls butt for FA along with Tony and whomever reups at a lower price. To "fix" the offensive line would be a coup of Biblical proportions.

I want defense, as well. But this guy can play.

 

[TwoDeep3]

This is a DL deep draft. It is not OL deep. If we grab a bookend RT in round 1 and still address DL in the next rounds it isn't any reason to get disappointed. Zack Martin flat out makes this a better team.

So it is spoken, so shall it be written!!!!

Good post, Hos.

 

[Hostile]

This is a DL deep draft. It is not OL deep. If we grab a bookend RT in round 1 and still address DL in the next rounds it isn't any reason to get disappointed. Zack Martin flat out makes this a better team.

That said, I still want Ra'Shede Hageman or Aaron Donald in round 1. I'd love to see what Rod Marinelli can turn Hageman into. I won't bark at an OLB because that is thin and I'm not too sold we have that fixed yet. No player should feel safe on this team. If we can improve, do it. I don't want a TE or a RB or a QB in round 1, but almost anywhere else, we can use the help. Including OL.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If Zack Martin fell which is expected, Dallas could draft him and i think they would. But with BAL and NYJ and the Dolphins right behind them that would be interesting. MIA is in desperate need of OL help. When they lost Martin they had to sign vets and were bad. They need to upgrade T and G. BAL is desperate need of a T, andthe Jets need that G. MIA could jump both and take Martin. Giving Dallas that 3rd.

So Dallas would then be at 19 with AZ right behind them looking to get a OLB, Dee Ford is the name that keeps coming up for them. But the Eagles are looking at that OLB spot aswell. Give me another RD3 pick.

Its all just spec but its all very well realistic. Dallas moving down 6 spots drafting at 22 and picking up 2 extra RD3 picks.

Using CBS Draft rankings these players rank in that 22 area
21 Aaron Donald
22 Timmy Jernigan
23 Xavier Su'a Filo

I dont think Donald will get past CHI.

And in the 22 Range i could see more like these players in this area as a target

Timmy Jernigan
Kony Ealy
Rashede Hageman
Ryan Shazier
Kelvin Benjamin
Kyle Fuller

Don't necessarily mind the idea of trading down but I have to say, I would hate it if these were the players we traded down to draft from.

 

[shmee]

If Zack Martin fell which is expected, Dallas could draft him and i think they would. But with BAL and NYJ and the Dolphins right behind them that would be interesting. MIA is in desperate need of OL help. When they lost Martin they had to sign vets and were bad. They need to upgrade T and G. BAL is desperate need of a T, andthe Jets need that G. MIA could jump both and take Martin. Giving Dallas that 3rd.

So Dallas would then be at 19 with AZ right behind them looking to get a OLB, Dee Ford is the name that keeps coming up for them. But the Eagles are looking at that OLB spot aswell. Give me another RD3 pick.

Its all just spec but its all very well realistic. Dallas moving down 6 spots drafting at 22 and picking up 2 extra RD3 picks.

Using CBS Draft rankings these players rank in that 22 area
21 Aaron Donald
22 Timmy Jernigan
23 Xavier Su'a Filo

I dont think Donald will get past CHI.

And in the 22 Range i could see more like these players in this area as a target

Timmy Jernigan
Kony Ealy
Rashede Hageman
Ryan Shazier
Kelvin Benjamin
Kyle Fuller

Lol!! Man! You really don't want Aaron Donald!! Forever you've been saying he's a borderline 1st round pick, early 2nd and now he's going to Chicago before us? Just because CBS puts those guys at that range doesn't mean they'll be there or anyone else. Last year dudes got drafted way above where they were slotted. I just want BPA and let's not get cute. But Jerry probably will and disappoint everyone and not draft "our" guys.

 

[LatinMind]

Don't necessarily mind the idea of trading down but I have to say, I would hate it if these were the players we traded down to draft from.

i just did it for thought. If Martin is there at 16. I think Dallas jumps on him. Even over Donald. The first priority should be keeping Romo healthy. I thought along with alot of other people that Romo had lost his arm and he might have lost something as we saw from them ducks he was throwing on sundays. But alot of that flat to Witten was by design. This team just didnt trust Free. They had free lined up wider than 2012, and had Waters/Bernadeau cover outside gap to inside. Meaning looking to Free's inside before coming back to help inside to Fredricks side. If you go back and look at games Fredricks first movement was almost always to the right. Free is gone after this yr, drafting Martin makes more sense then anything. IMO Marinelli can coach up a RD2 player in the draft and have him play at a RD1 production rate. But can Callahan? He can create a scheme to hide a weakness, but i dont think he is a good enough coach to simply make a player better.

Martin in RD1 and i think Dallas would be fine with a Easley, Sutten, Quarles in RD2.

 

[sbark]

I wouldn't mind finishing off the re-make of the Oline.......make it a presumed dominate force for the next decade ala the 90's Cowboys.
Make it a irresistible force that forces

 

[jazzcat22]

I been saying for a while, I wouldn't mind a trade down to 22 to 25 range, still get Donald. But with his strong showing at the combine. May not happen that he falls that far now.
But as others said, deep for DL, so if we take Martin or even Evans, I would be fine with tat.
But since it's deep in WR's also, Martin would be the better choice.
We can get a DL & WR in the 2nd & 3rd. Even though I would go LB before WR.
If Ware is kept, and Hatcher, I can see this as more of a possibility.

 

[theSHOW]

If Zack Martin fell which is expected, Dallas could draft him and i think they would. But with BAL and NYJ and the Dolphins right behind them that would be interesting. MIA is in desperate need of OL help. When they lost Martin they had to sign vets and were bad. They need to upgrade T and G. BAL is desperate need of a T, andthe Jets need that G. MIA could jump both and take Martin. Giving Dallas that 3rd.

So Dallas would then be at 19 with AZ right behind them looking to get a OLB, Dee Ford is the name that keeps coming up for them. But the Eagles are looking at that OLB spot aswell. Give me another RD3 pick.

Its all just spec but its all very well realistic. Dallas moving down 6 spots drafting at 22 and picking up 2 extra RD3 picks.

Using CBS Draft rankings these players rank in that 22 area
21 Aaron Donald
22 Timmy Jernigan
23 Xavier Su'a Filo

I dont think Donald will get past CHI.

And in the 22 Range i could see more like these players in this area as a target

Timmy Jernigan
Kony Ealy
Rashede Hageman
Ryan Shazier
Kelvin Benjamin
Kyle Fuller

I will say.... I don't need to look at the NFL draft trade chart to know that 6 spots does not equal and additional set of 3rd round selections. No GM is going to give up that in this deep draft (lotsof underclassmen) for 6 spots.

 

[reddyuta]

martin would be an underwhelming pick,he is a jack of all trades and master of none.I doubt he will be a good tackle in the NFL with those stubby arms and his best position is supposed to be guard but he has never played guard before.thats a lot of uncertainty for the 16th pick.

 

[OhSnap]

If Zack Martin fell which is expected, Dallas could draft him and i think they would. But with BAL and NYJ and the Dolphins right behind them that would be interesting. MIA is in desperate need of OL help. When they lost Martin they had to sign vets and were bad. They need to upgrade T and G. BAL is desperate need of a T, andthe Jets need that G. MIA could jump both and take Martin. Giving Dallas that 3rd.

So Dallas would then be at 19 with AZ right behind them looking to get a OLB, Dee Ford is the name that keeps coming up for them. But the Eagles are looking at that OLB spot aswell. Give me another RD3 pick.

Its all just spec but its all very well realistic. Dallas moving down 6 spots drafting at 22 and picking up 2 extra RD3 picks.

Using CBS Draft rankings these players rank in that 22 area
21 Aaron Donald
22 Timmy Jernigan
23 Xavier Su'a Filo

I dont think Donald will get past CHI.

And in the 22 Range i could see more like these players in this area as a target

Timmy Jernigan
Kony Ealy
Rashede Hageman
Ryan Shazier
Kelvin Benjamin
Kyle Fuller

I don't think the Eagles would help us out by giving up a draft pick but a couple 3rds would be nice. Are you using a pick calc?

 

[JPostSam]

what this team needs is not a defensive tackle or an offensive tackle or any other single position. what this team needs is A LOT MORE TALENT.

so, i would be very happy to see dallas draft aaron donald at 16 but, if a trade were possible and we could get rashede hageman AND two more picks in the top 100, i'd have to say that's a good thing for this team.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

This is a DL deep draft. It is not OL deep. If we grab a bookend RT in round 1 and still address DL in the next rounds it isn't any reason to get disappointed. Zack Martin flat out makes this a better team.

This, This times 100. The Dallas Cowboys are not so rich on the offensive line that they overlook Martin if he is the best player on their board when they are on the clock.