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[CCBoy]

Dallas Cowboys Draft 2016: If Cowboys Want A Pass Rusher, 2005 Is The Path To Follow

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...want-a-pass-rusher-2005-is-the-path-to-follow






I must first admit that yesterday's piece on the Dallas Cowboys pass rush becoming a liability was a downer. The Cowboys can do a lot to take the pressure off the defense with a strong running game but they must address their lack of pass rushers. Though this draft class is not filled with much pass-rushing talent, there is still talent to have. This is precisely why a potential trade down has become more popular over the last few weeks. Sure, the Cowboys may not pick as high as four in a long time, but this is not necessarily a good year to have the fourth-overall pick.

If Jalen Ramsey is off the board and Myles Jack's knee isn't checking out the right way, then there should be overwhelming hope that somebody is calling for a quarterback or something. The Cowboys have nine picks in this draft, but if they could somehow swing getting more picks in the second round or third round, that would be fantastic. It's this forethought that leads me to wonder if the Cowboys may be looking to 2005 for their blueprint this draft season. In that year, the Cowboys had eight picks, which included two first-rounders and two fourth-rounders. The Cowboys spent six of the eight picks on defense. They selected DeMarcus Ware and Marcus Spears in the first, Kevin Burnett in the second, Chris Canty in the fourth, Justin Beriault in the sixth, and Jay Ratliff in the seventh.

When Dallas made those moves, they were switching from the 4-3 alignment to a Bill Parcells' 3-4 scheme, but they put an emphasis on getting better defensively and they succeeded. They went from 16th in total defense to 10th and though they only had one more sack, they were able to get off the field on third downs better than before. They also won three more games and went to the playoffs. So, though rookie pass rushers don't light up the sack statistics, they obviously can help a team get better. With nine picks, the Cowboys could do some heavy hitting to upgrading that defense.

Regardless of what some of us think about certain prospects, the Cowboys need to address their pass rushing woes with numbers. Why not finally give Rod Marinelli a stable of good pass rushers at his disposal? I mean, that is what he's been talking about since becoming the defensive coordinator, he wants a rotation of good "rushmen".

One of the other things to keep in mind about the Marinelli "rushmen" is that his edge guys are important pieces to his ability to get the quarterback on the ground. Before those pressure folks harp on me for this, yes, pressure is important, but so are sacks, folks. Also, so are takeaways, another thing the Cowboys were dismal at in 2015. Dallas did a nice job helping Tyrone Crawford this offseason by bringing in a play-making one-technique in Cedric Thornton. They still need edge guys. At this point, we're not sure that any veteran left on the market besides Greg Hardy is going to be better than someone they draft. So, if they really need guys that can bend the edge for the tackles to collapse the pocket, who should they be looking at? This is where that trade back could come in handy...

 

[CCBoy]

Would anyone be satisfied with this approach:

Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson

At Clemson, he showed to be equally skilled as a pass rusher and run stuffer. He's got a fantastic motor and good quickness that allows him to live in the backfield. In fact, against Ronnie Stanley (first-round talent from Notre Dame), Lawson was extremely disruptive. In that game, he recorded seven tackles, 3.5 for loss, and routinely beat Stanley with his quickness and power. He does a great job at setting the edge uses his flexibility to get by the would-be blocker in pass defense. Lawson has the reputation of a finisher. He had great production and his combination skill-set will get him drafted in the first round.

This would require a trade down, and the addition of either a second round pick, or a third round pick...

Pick in the top 1/3rd of the first round.

Ronald Blair, DE, Appalachian State

Blair is a super productive prospect with some polished pass rushing skill whose stock has continuously risen over the last weeks and months and then tailed off. Blair was outstanding against real competition in Clemson and was practically unblockable. It's all about getting to the quarterback and Blair certainly can.

After these guys and in-between, you find a bunch of guys that have some abilities but may not add the edge prowess that they need. The Cowboys may need to grab and extra defensive tackle just because the class is so great, but the true need is on the edge. If the Cowboys can grab possibly two solid edge performance guys then they should feel better about their situation. Again, none of these guys are likely to be the first rookie pass rusher to have double-digit sacks since 2011, but they need numbers. There is strength in numbers, Rod Marinelli says so.

Pick in the 3rd round...at the Dallas's natural pick.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

That was a heck of a draft. Don't see us doing that though. We still think protecting and giving Romo weapons is the key to a championship. And Marinelli is allergic to good players.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Would anyone be satisfied with this approach:

Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson

At Clemson, he showed to be equally skilled as a pass rusher and run stuffer. He's got a fantastic motor and good quickness that allows him to live in the backfield. In fact, against Ronnie Stanley (first-round talent from Notre Dame), Lawson was extremely disruptive. In that game, he recorded seven tackles, 3.5 for loss, and routinely beat Stanley with his quickness and power. He does a great job at setting the edge uses his flexibility to get by the would-be blocker in pass defense. Lawson has the reputation of a finisher. He had great production and his combination skill-set will get him drafted in the first round.

This would require a trade down, and the addition of either a second round pick, or a third round pick...

Pick in the top 1/3rd of the first round.

Ronald Blair, DE, Appalachian State

Blair is a super productive prospect with some polished pass rushing skill whose stock has continuously risen over the last weeks and months and then tailed off. Blair was outstanding against real competition in Clemson and was practically unblockable. It's all about getting to the quarterback and Blair certainly can.

After these guys and in-between, you find a bunch of guys that have some abilities but may not add the edge prowess that they need. The Cowboys may need to grab and extra defensive tackle just because the class is so great, but the true need is on the edge. If the Cowboys can grab possibly two solid edge performance guys then they should feel better about their situation. Again, none of these guys are likely to be the first rookie pass rusher to have double-digit sacks since 2011, but they need numbers. There is strength in numbers, Rod Marinelli says so.

Pick in the 3rd round...at the Dallas's natural pick.

Rather get DE Spence, SS Joseph and DT Ridgeway.

 

[CCBoy]

Rather get DE Spence, SS Joseph and DT Ridgeway.

Spence at 4?

That is workable...I'm still trying to get a 2nd round pick married with the 1st round selection, and getting one of the 4 top receivers in the Dallas natural 2nd round pick.

 

[CCBoy]

That was a heck of a draft. Don't see us doing that though. We still think protecting and giving Romo weapons is the key to a championship. And Marinelli is allergic to good players.

 

[waving monkey]

Yap I'm thinking saturate the DL
Get a good 3DT and kick Crawford outside.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

That was a heck of a draft. Don't see us doing that though. We still think protecting and giving Romo weapons is the key to a championship. And Marinelli is allergic to good players.

we're looking at drafting edge rusher again for the third year in a row. That doesn't sound to me like good drafting. They are looking at drafting a CB high in the draft again, after picking Jones last year and Claiborne with the 6th overall pick 4 years ago. Again that doesn't sound like good drafting to me. Drafting at this rate, will never give you depth at other key positions.

 

[CCBoy]

we're looking at drafting edge rusher again for the third year in a row. That doesn't sound to me like good drafting. They are looking at drafting a CB high in the draft again, after picking Jones last year and Claiborne with the 6th overall pick 4 years ago. Again that doesn't sound like good drafting to me. Drafting at this rate, will never give you depth at other key positions.

Find a porta pottie to take all of that built up crap....It took four seasons to build up an offensive line, and with four players. This is the second year at building up personnel for a Marinella defense...that must be something akin to a forced diet of prunes. But the success rate of first and second rounders has been very strong...Laufenberg: As my former coach and current good friend Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast, my friend!" Did you know...in the first 3 rounds in the last decade, the Cowboys have actually drafted 10 players who ultimately made a Pro Bowl (tied with KC and Minnesota). And in the last 6 years, they are the only team in the NFL to have drafted 3 All-Pros. For comparison, New England, viewed as the gold standard for all things NFL, have drafted two first round Pro Bowlers in the last 6 years and no All-Pros. That Tom Brady guy is a great deodorant.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...e-jerry-jones-good-finding-rookie-free-agents

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Find a porta pottie to take all of that built up crap....It took four seasons to build up an offensive line, and with four players. This is the second year at building up personnel for a Marinella defense...that must be something akin to a forced diet of prunes. But the success rate of first and second rounders has been very strong...Laufenberg: As my former coach and current good friend Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast, my friend!" Did you know...in the first 3 rounds in the last decade, the Cowboys have actually drafted 10 players who ultimately made a Pro Bowl (tied with KC and Minnesota). And in the last 6 years, they are the only team in the NFL to have drafted 3 All-Pros. For comparison, New England, viewed as the gold standard for all things NFL, have drafted two first round Pro Bowlers in the last 6 years and no All-Pros. That Tom Brady guy is a great deodorant.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...e-jerry-jones-good-finding-rookie-free-agents

I bet the Lions have as many, but they haven't had much success. The OL has 3 first round picks all playing a different positions on the line. They didn't select 3 left tackles or 3 centers. On the DL the past 2 years they have used a pick on a pass rushing DE. One of them required a 3rd as well. So this year they are looking at another pass rushing DE...... Next year another pass rushing DE? Meanwhile Devin Street is our depth at WR and they are still sending Wilcox and Church out to man the safety spot. All the while saying they are in win now mode.

 

[CCBoy]

I bet the Lions have as many, but they haven't had much success. The OL has 3 first round picks all playing a different positions on the line. They didn't select 3 left tackles or 3 centers. On the DL the past 2 years they have used a pick on a pass rushing DE. One of them required a 3rd as well. So this year they are looking at another pass rushing DE...... Next year another pass rushing DE? Meanwhile Devin Street is our depth at WR and they are still sending Wilcox and Church out to man the safety spot. All the while saying they are in win now mode.

I bet that SMU will reach the National Championship in a horific return from the Death Sentence...explain that one away also.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I bet that SMU will reach the National Championship in a horific return from the Death Sentence...explain that one away also.

I could care less about SMU, I worry more about my Javalinas continuing to have terrible football teams. That is not what they are suppose to be!

 

[CCBoy]

I could care less about SMU, I worry more about my Javalinas continuing to have terrible football teams. That is not what they are suppose to be!

Ah, the socially redeemable features return...

When their track teams return to the top of National Standings, usually so does their football teams.

In the mean time, I won't be complaining about not enough Hall of Famers coming from the current programs.

I still hold a tear for ex- A&I quarterbacks - Karl Douglas and Randy Johnson.

Randy quarterbacked the NFC Championship Game for the New York Giants, and passed away a homeless recovering alcoholic.

Karl was given a two game Exhibition tryout and cut, the year after Baltimore released both Earl Morrell and Johnny Unitas.

 

[fivetwos]

we're looking at drafting edge rusher again for the third year in a row. That doesn't sound to me like good drafting. They are looking at drafting a CB high in the draft again, after picking Jones last year and Claiborne with the 6th overall pick 4 years ago. Again that doesn't sound like good drafting to me. Drafting at this rate, will never give you depth at other key positions.

I think your point is that we seem to have the same need year after year even though we've spent some high picks on those spots.

Edge rushers are like gold. I would get as many as I can. You don't draft two starting ends then you're done. Keep em coming.

The Giants philosophy that won them some titles....have a top 10 QB and a ton of pass rush depth.

Don't forget those guys rotate series and some of them kick inside in certain packages.

If we can deal down and get a guy like Shaq Lawson, PLUS an extra pick, that's some really good business.

The CB part, yes I agree with you. We need to stop using high picks on corners to pair with a suspect pass rush. That will NEVER add up.

 

[dfense]

How does a prospect's stock rise weeks after he's played his last game? Does he look better now ? I don't get that.

 

[CyberB0b]

Step 1: Draft a hall of fame player. Got it. Step 2?

 

[gimmesix]

Yap I'm thinking saturate the DL
Get a good 3DT and kick Crawford outside.

I'm for getting two DEs and a DT in the draft, and I'd prefer to do it in the first four rounds. Wouldn't even mind us coming back with a late-round 1-tech.

Our depth right now is Lawrence, Mayowa and suspended Gregory at end, Crawford, Thornton and Irving on the interior, with a bunch of guys we're not sure we can count on after that (McClain, Whaley, Walker, Russell and McAdoo — yes, I said McAdoo,)

 

[the_h0wey]

Dallas Cowboys Draft 2016: If Cowboys Want A Pass Rusher, 2005 Is The Path To Follow

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...want-a-pass-rusher-2005-is-the-path-to-follow






I must first admit that yesterday's piece on the Dallas Cowboys pass rush becoming a liability was a downer. The Cowboys can do a lot to take the pressure off the defense with a strong running game but they must address their lack of pass rushers. Though this draft class is not filled with much pass-rushing talent, there is still talent to have. This is precisely why a potential trade down has become more popular over the last few weeks. Sure, the Cowboys may not pick as high as four in a long time, but this is not necessarily a good year to have the fourth-overall pick.

If Jalen Ramsey is off the board and Myles Jack's knee isn't checking out the right way, then there should be overwhelming hope that somebody is calling for a quarterback or something. The Cowboys have nine picks in this draft, but if they could somehow swing getting more picks in the second round or third round, that would be fantastic. It's this forethought that leads me to wonder if the Cowboys may be looking to 2005 for their blueprint this draft season. In that year, the Cowboys had eight picks, which included two first-rounders and two fourth-rounders. The Cowboys spent six of the eight picks on defense. They selected DeMarcus Ware and Marcus Spears in the first, Kevin Burnett in the second, Chris Canty in the fourth, Justin Beriault in the sixth, and Jay Ratliff in the seventh.

When Dallas made those moves, they were switching from the 4-3 alignment to a Bill Parcells' 3-4 scheme, but they put an emphasis on getting better defensively and they succeeded. They went from 16th in total defense to 10th and though they only had one more sack, they were able to get off the field on third downs better than before. They also won three more games and went to the playoffs. So, though rookie pass rushers don't light up the sack statistics, they obviously can help a team get better. With nine picks, the Cowboys could do some heavy hitting to upgrading that defense.

Regardless of what some of us think about certain prospects, the Cowboys need to address their pass rushing woes with numbers. Why not finally give Rod Marinelli a stable of good pass rushers at his disposal? I mean, that is what he's been talking about since becoming the defensive coordinator, he wants a rotation of good "rushmen".

One of the other things to keep in mind about the Marinelli "rushmen" is that his edge guys are important pieces to his ability to get the quarterback on the ground. Before those pressure folks harp on me for this, yes, pressure is important, but so are sacks, folks. Also, so are takeaways, another thing the Cowboys were dismal at in 2015. Dallas did a nice job helping Tyrone Crawford this offseason by bringing in a play-making one-technique in Cedric Thornton. They still need edge guys. At this point, we're not sure that any veteran left on the market besides Greg Hardy is going to be better than someone they draft. So, if they really need guys that can bend the edge for the tackles to collapse the pocket, who should they be looking at? This is where that trade back could come in handy...

That was one heck of a draft. I really wanted Derrick Johnson out of UT, but I guess that Ware guy turned out to be pretty good choice

 

[Eddie]

I love the 2005 draft.

How many Super Bowls did it bring us again ???

 

[CCBoy]

Step 1: Draft a hall of fame player. Got it. Step 2?

There was sentiment getting started that Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa isn't all he is hyped up to be and could fall a few spots in the NFL Draft.

Don't tell that to the men who actually make the selections.

"He's the real deal,'' an executive in personnel for a NFC team said. "If anyone tries to tell you anything different, don't listen to them. They're lying to you. This guy can do it all. He dominates games like no other player in this draft.''

Bosa, 6-5, 275, had 26 sacks and 51 tackles for loss in 37 games for the Buckeyes. Only five of those sacks came last season, but he faced constant double and triple team blocking. And he still made 16 tackles behind the line...

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/03/2016_nfl_draft_how_good_is_ohio_states_joey_bosa.html