Dallas Cowboys new offensive identity - The Brian Schottenheimer Philosophy

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The Dallas Cowboys NEW OFFENSIVE IDENTITY - The Brian Schottenheimer Philosophy

Check out this video. It very well explains the Brian Schottenheimer philosophy and helps one better understand why the Dallas Cowboys drafted the way they did and why they picked the players they did. Enjoy...

 

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Funny how the BS philosophy (no pun intended) describes very much the type of offensive identity the early 90s Cowboys had in their glory days. They ran the ball when everyone knew they were gonna run it, and they passed the ball when everyone knew they were gonna pass it. Use of the Fullback (DJ), and a good blocking TE (Novacek).. Emmitt ran it inside, outside and any other way they wanted. Troy passing the ball around 20-25 times. The key will be this OL. They will need to control the LOS.

That's where this will succeed or fail. :popcorn:
 

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I have to admit I'm confused about the direction on offense:

  • Is it McCarthy's offense or is it Schottenheimer's offense?
  • McCarthy's been emphasizing the running game but I remember his Green Bay's offenses to be more pass oriented.
  • We drafted a very good blocking TE but the TE I associate with McCarthy's Green Bay offenses, Jermichal Finley, seems to be more of a big WR rather than an all around blocking TE.. The two TE's reportedly at the top of our draft board, LaPorta and Kincaid, are more down the field types like Finley not especially noted for their blocking.
  • Two of our main RB's, Pollard and Vaugh, don't really seem to fit the mold of a ball control running team.
 

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I have to admit I'm confused about the direction on offense:

  • Is it McCarthy's offense or is it Schottenheimer's offense?
  • McCarthy's been emphasizing the running game but I remember his Green Bay's offenses to be more pass oriented.
  • We drafted a very good blocking TE but the TE I associate with McCarthy's Green Bay offenses, Jermichal Finley, seems to be more of a big WR rather than an all around blocking TE.. The two TE's reportedly at the top of our draft board, LaPorta and Kincaid, are more down the field types like Finley not especially noted for their blocking.
  • Two of our main RB's, Pollard and Vaugh, don't really seem to fit the mold of a ball control running team.
I don’t think we can hold a coaches past as the only thing he can do, coaches evolve. Look no further than Dan Quinn.

We all thought DQ would run the Seattle defense he helped create. He came here and ran a completely different hybrid defense. Give guys the chance to show you what they’ve been working on.

I for one am not using GB as a blueprint for what we are going to see. Especially when our personnel moves and off-season messaging show the opposite.
 

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I don’t think we can hold a coaches past as the only thing he can do, coaches evolve. Look no further than Dan Quinn.

We all thought DQ would run the Seattle defense he helped create. He came here and ran a completely different hybrid defense. Give guys the chance to show you what they’ve been working on.

I for one am not using GB as a blueprint for what we are going to see. Especially when our personnel moves and off-season messaging show the opposite.

Coaches can change their philosophy but some of the current personnel decisions or preferences seem contradictory to the rhetoric. The RB's seem more geared towards the passing game rather than a pound it out running game. Had things fallen differently in the draft, the TE's may have as well have been better suited to a pass oriented team.
 

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I have to admit I'm confused about the direction on offense:

  • Is it McCarthy's offense or is it Schottenheimer's offense?
  • McCarthy's been emphasizing the running game but I remember his Green Bay's offenses to be more pass oriented.
  • We drafted a very good blocking TE but the TE I associate with McCarthy's Green Bay offenses, Jermichal Finley, seems to be more of a big WR rather than an all around blocking TE.. The two TE's reportedly at the top of our draft board, LaPorta and Kincaid, are more down the field types like Finley not especially noted for their blocking.
  • Two of our main RB's, Pollard and Vaugh, don't really seem to fit the mold of a ball control running team.
The offense will be what Schottenheimer and McCarthy put together. I’m sure there will be influences from each guy’s past. That is a really good idea, IMO. We know they’re wanting to get the run game going and Solari will have the OL banging on people… so that part will probably be involved no matter what.

In Seattle, the offense was all Schottenheimer’s. Pete Carroll is a defensive guy and he just trusts his OC to deal with the offense. The problem for Brian in Seattle wasn’t his offensive play design… it was his play calling during games. That’s why Mike will call them here.

In Dallas, McCarthy is all offense and has a west coast history. He will likely add a lot to Schottenheimer’s offense and will be calling the plays, so Mike is going to have a huge hand in that.

So, there will be a very large McCarthy influence in everything they do on offense… but Mike wanted Schott’s and Solari’s great run game design.

It’s a guess but I think it will essentially be McCarthy’s passing game with Schottenheimer’s/Solari’s run game. Then Mike will decide when to use what during the game.
 

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Great video.

I wish the team had some better RB's behind Pollard but the overall philosophy is interesting. Can see why they really might want to move Tyler back to guard, which a lot of people don't like but I would recommend watching the video. He would be an absolute road grater in that pulling guard kick out scenario which looks like the base run play in the new system.

Also, good insight on the MM "I want to rest my defense". The number of 3 and outs this year by the offense was problematic.
 

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The offense will be what Schottenheimer and McCarthy put together. I’m sure there will be influences from each guy’s past. That is a really good idea, IMO. We know they’re wanting to get the run game going and Solari will have the OL banging on people… so that part will probably be involved no matter what.

In Seattle, the offense was all Schottenheimer’s. Pete Carroll is a defensive guy and he just trusts his OC to deal with the offense. The problem for Brian in Seattle wasn’t his offensive play design… it was his play calling during games. That’s why Mike will call them here.

In Dallas, McCarthy is all offense and has a west coast history. He will likely add a lot to Schottenheimer’s offense and will be calling the plays, so Mike is going to have a huge hand in that.

So, there will be a very large McCarthy influence in everything they do on offense… but Mike wanted Schott’s and Solari’s great run game design.

It’s a guess but I think it will essentially be McCarthy’s passing game with Schottenheimer’s/Solari’s run game. Then Mike will decide when to use what during the game.
It will be interesting to see how it all comes together. But my sense is that we now have TE's for Schottenheimer's running game but RB's better suited for McCarthy's passing oriented offense. The personnel for this offense may be a work in progress that doesn't fully get resolved this season.
 

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Coaches can change their philosophy but some of the current personnel decisions or preferences seem contradictory to the rhetoric. The RB's seem more geared towards the passing game rather than a pound it out running game. Had things fallen differently in the draft, the TE's may have as well have been better suited to a pass oriented team.
I think the RB thing can be explained by Mike’s belief that any capable RB can do the work as long as the line and blocking scheme are fine. He’s always cycled through RB’s.

Also, the team could be completely confident that Ronald Jones can handle 8-12 Carrie’s a game. That’s all we really need since Pollard will handle 15 or so touches and Deuce gets his 8 total.
 

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It will be interesting to see how it all comes together. But my sense is that we now have TE's for Schottenheimer's running game but RB's better suited for McCarthy's passing oriented offense. The personnel for this offense may be a work in progress that doesn't fully get resolved this season.
IMO the RB’s are fine as long as Pollard is 100%. You don’t have to be a big RB, you just have to get through the hole… and Pollard (and Vaughn) can get through in a hurry.

I think those two along with Jones/Davis will be fine. The “Power” from a power run game really comes from the OL/TE/FB anyway. The RB just has to hit it.
 

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Strong run game interspersed with play action passes. That is essentially what I expect to see. Routes will vary and game plans will vary, but that is what I expect.

And an effective play action offense is an absolute beeeyotch to deal with for the defense of the run game is going.
 

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IMO the RB’s are fine as long as Pollard is 100%. You don’t have to be a big RB, you just have to get through the hole… and Pollard (and Vaughn) can get through in a hurry.

I think those two along with Jones/Davis will be fine. The “Power” from a power run game really comes from the OL/TE/FB anyway. The RB just has to hit it.
Sounds just like the 90s SB Cowboys. :thumbup:
 

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The Dallas Cowboys NEW OFFENSIVE IDENTITY - The Brian Schottenheimer Philosophy

Check out this video. It very well explains the Brian Schottenheimer philosophy and helps one better understand why the Dallas Cowboys drafted the way they did and why they picked the players they did. Enjoy...


Good job of explaining the new Cowboys philosophy but he is the second YouTuber to say Ferguson will start over Schoonmaker. I don’t understand that rationale.
 

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I am totally good with this. Anything resembling a run first down hill type of scheme with selective over the top play action attempts is the way to go.
They did it magically well in 2016 with Linehan. They did a strong 2 headed monster version for about the first 6 to 7 games under Moore in 2021 before injuries kinda nixed it.

Limit the pass volume with effective and efficient run design.

It all surely sounds good.
I am somewhat skeptical because of this past HC and QB1's history of wanting to be pass first mentality but will try and hold out hope for their actions to support their words.

Best I can do.
 
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Good job of explaining the new Cowboys philosophy but he is the second YouTuber to say Ferguson will start over Schoonmaker. I don’t understand that rationale.
I believe it's only to start the season since Ferguson has a 1 year experience compared to the inexperienced rookie Schoonmaker. As the season goes along, that definitely can change. Heck, we might see both TEs on the field at the same time during certain run plays.
 
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