Dallas defense putting a whooping on the offense

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The offensive struggles have increased as camp has progressed.

Romo was 8-18 with 2 interceptions in practice this afternoon and Kitna was even worse.

Crayton admitted that the defense was practicing with more confidence and bravado and the offense was not matching the intensity.

Our offense has gone through lulls each of the last two seasons and it looks like we are in a preseason lull right now.

I know this offense has been getting a brow beating by fans for various reasons.

My biggest issue is the offense is that the philosophy seems to be less true "execution" and more trying to outsmart or out clever the defenses we play. And once a team adjusts (like our own defense in practices) then we have a much harder time "executing" as Garrett/Romo/Witten/everyone else likes to call it in interviews.

I would prefer we had the mentality that if our opponents had our playbook and new each play in advance they still couldn't stop it. Not a mentality of "beat 'em with the play or formation they haven't seen yet".

At the end of the day, I don't know that we have the talent just to impose our offensive will on opponents (ala 90's championship teams) but I am also not sure Garrett's offensive philosophy has ever given us the chance to find out.
 
windjc;3499074 said:
The offensive struggles have increased as camp has progressed.

Romo was 8-18 with 2 interceptions in practice this afternoon and Kitna was even worse.

Crayton admitted that the defense was practicing with more confidence and bravado and the offense was not matching the intensity.

Our offense has gone through lulls each of the last two seasons and it looks like we are in a preseason lull right now.

I know this offense has been getting a brow beating by fans for various reasons.

My biggest issue is the offense is that the philosophy seems to be less true "execution" and more trying to outsmart or out clever the defenses we play. And once a team adjusts (like our own defense in practices) then we have a much harder time "executing" as Garrett/Romo/Witten/everyone else likes to call it in interviews.

I would prefer we had the mentality that if our opponents had our playbook and new each play in advance they still couldn't stop it. Not a mentality of "beat 'em with the play or formation they haven't seen yet".

At the end of the day, I don't know that we have the talent just to impose our offensive will on opponents (ala 90's championship teams) but I am also not sure Garrett's offensive philosophy has ever given us the chance to find out.

If our offense struggles this year, Garrett will be going out the door with Wade. Make no mistake about it, if we dont get to the SB this year, Wade is gone.
 
Truth of the matter is we have probably more offensive firepower than anyone else in the league when you put it all together . Problem is our offensive line and our philosophy there. Now dont get me wrong, in no way do I think our line is terrible, I DONT, in fact I think we can win a Superbowl with this line. I just think it can be better, ALOT better.

The days of just lining up 5 big boys are OVER. Defensive lineman and linebackers these days have such size/speed ratios and athleticism that they are off the charts. You BETTER have an athletic O line to match that or you are gonna get whipped and whipped good. Take a good look at some of the better o lines in the league these days, The colts, Giants, ect ect....Those guys are fairly big, not huge, but AGILE, they can slide over and pick up a blitzing L.B with ease, or motor down field and take out a linebacker or safety in the second level during a running play. I firmly believe that Doug Free will go a long way in curing our O line problems. Tell ya something else..............Right now, our two best offensive lineman are Doug Free and Kyle Kosier. You know why? They can both MOVE, they arent just straight ahead guys who struggle in space. This season will prove that fact more than ever.
 
This is HUGE.........We have been trying to run a racehorse quick hitting offense behind a slug it out grind em down Offensive line. They cant keep up. Its not their strength. Its like running a race car on regular old unleaded. You can do it, but in no way can you get the maximum performance out of it. :confused:
 
As long as we do more bubble screens and screens to rbs, slant plays to wrs we will be fine. Saints and Giants abuse those plays. No wonder they won rings. Garrett always has Romo doing 5 step drops. I dont recall many screens or slants run at the beggining of the Minn playoff game. Offense will be fine with better playcalling from that clown coordinator. The defense is fine.
 
Good to hear about the defense. One could read this to mean that the defense is on the road to being Top 3, which it certainly has looked like in limited action so far.
 
Beast_from_East;3499093 said:
If our offense struggles this year, Garrett will be going out the door with Wade. Make no mistake about it, if we dont get to the SB this year, Wade is gone.
Why would Wade be gone if the offense struggles but the Defense is top 10 or so?
 
tupperware;3499175 said:
Why would Wade be gone if the offense struggles but the Defense is top 10 or so?

I agree, Garrett has pretty much full control of the offense. If the offense is the culprit that holds us back, I don't think that really falls back on Wade if he has his Defense playing lights out.

Make or break season for Garrett I think. Of course, just remember, it is still only preseason. The Red genius still can get any red zone worries figured out before the season starts. We're still playing vanilla (or strawberry to some on here, lol).
 
Our D is gonna put a hurtin on alot of offenses this year.. They're gonna be fun to watch, speed everywhere...
 
#1) our most explosive offensive weapon is injured. Without him playing, our defense is at a major advantage

#2) our defense might in fact be better than our offense even when Dez is healthy. And that is really saying something.
 
Avenging Hayseed;3499097 said:
Truth of the matter is we have probably more offensive firepower than anyone else in the league when you put it all together . Problem is our offensive line and our philosophy there. Now dont get me wrong, in no way do I think our line is terrible, I DONT, in fact I think we can win a Superbowl with this line. I just think it can be better, ALOT better.

The days of just lining up 5 big boys are OVER. Defensive lineman and linebackers these days have such size/speed ratios and athleticism that they are off the charts. You BETTER have an athletic O line to match that or you are gonna get whipped and whipped good. Take a good look at some of the better o lines in the league these days, The colts, Giants, ect ect....Those guys are fairly big, not huge, but AGILE, they can slide over and pick up a blitzing L.B with ease, or motor down field and take out a linebacker or safety in the second level during a running play. I firmly believe that Doug Free will go a long way in curing our O line problems. Tell ya something else..............Right now, our two best offensive lineman are Doug Free and Kyle Kosier. You know why? They can both MOVE, they arent just straight ahead guys who struggle in space. This season will prove that fact more than ever.
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windjc;3499074 said:
My biggest issue is the offense is that the philosophy seems to be less true "execution" and more trying to outsmart or out clever the defenses we play. And once a team adjusts (like our own defense in practices) then we have a much harder time "executing" as Garrett/Romo/Witten/everyone else likes to call it in interviews.

I would prefer we had the mentality that if our opponents had our playbook and new each play in advance they still couldn't stop it. Not a mentality of "beat 'em with the play or formation they haven't seen yet".

At the end of the day, I don't know that we have the talent just to impose our offensive will on opponents (ala 90's championship teams) but I am also not sure Garrett's offensive philosophy has ever given us the chance to find out.

I think you may have something with the execution versus outsmart them argument. The cowboys teams, the old Commander counter trey and of course Lombardi would practice their power sweep so much that during the games opposing defenses would know it was coming and just could not stop it. This kind of domination through execution may be a thing of the past but isn't the mark of true excellence? Isn't that what helps to make the colts and the steelers perennial leaders?
 
starfrombirth;3499288 said:
Strawberry.... didn't you get the memo?
mmmmmm yeah, we're just gonna go ahead and get you another copy of that. Mmmmk?

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GloryDaysRBack;3499221 said:
#1) our most explosive offensive weapon is injured. Without him playing, our defense is at a major advantage

Can we have him play a down in the NFL before we dub him our "most explosive weapon?"

Last I checked Romo, Witten, Austin and Felix are all healthy and out there. That ain't chopped liver.
 
What happened to the offense that no one could stop?
 
Avenging Hayseed;3499097 said:
The days of just lining up 5 big boys are OVER. Defensive lineman and linebackers these days have such size/speed ratios and athleticism that they are off the charts. You BETTER have an athletic O line to match that or you are gonna get whipped and whipped good. Take a good look at some of the better o lines in the league these days, The colts, Giants, ect ect....Those guys are fairly big, not huge, but AGILE, they can slide over and pick up a blitzing L.B with ease, or motor down field and take out a linebacker or safety in the second level during a running play. I firmly believe that Doug Free will go a long way in curing our O line problems. Tell ya something else..............Right now, our two best offensive lineman are Doug Free and Kyle Kosier. You know why? They can both MOVE, they arent just straight ahead guys who struggle in space. This season will prove that fact more than ever.

I think this is a really good point, and I've been thinking the same for a while. Its no accident that, contrary to many opinions when we acquired him, Kosier has been our most consistent lineman for years, or that the line completely fell apart when he was injured 2 years ago. Or that I agree Free will make us forget Flo in a hurry.

Because our philosophy has always been 'bigger is better', it may also explain why our drafting of OLmen has been so dismal for so long.
 
wileedog;3499292 said:
Can we have him play a down in the NFL before we dub him our "most explosive weapon?"

Last I checked Romo, Witten, Austin and Felix are all healthy and out there. That ain't chopped liver.

No they aren't, infact, they're outstanding but Dez is SPECIAL. It doesn't take him playing a down in the league to show that, he's been showing it thoughout camp against our best who are Pro Bowlers before he was injured. I understand what you're saying but this kid is different and it's extremely obvious...
 
Mansta54;3499298 said:
No they aren't, infact, they're outstanding but Dez is SPECIAL. It doesn't take him playing a down in the league to show that, he's been showing it thoughout camp against our best who are Pro Bowlers before he was injured. I understand what you're saying but this kid is different and it's extremely obvious...

Saying that the offense is at a 'disadvantage' because a rookie with 2 weeks of practice under his belt isn't out there is just silly.
 

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