Dallas Observer: I Dub Thee ... "Annie" Romo

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Apollo Creed;2591769 said:
Stop pretending like everyone is an idiot. Everywhere you post, you get all high and mighty, hell you even tried to degrade the work of Albert Einstein in another thread during one of your condescending rants.

And Warner gets furious when he doesn't do well, Romo just pouts. I don't need an article to explain that to me. Romo is 30, and he plays and acts like a rookie.

I agree with you Apollo. Even though you read just one of my commissioner ideas (the first one) and determined it was all dumb. That's a little high and mighty isn't it ;)

All kidding aside, I don't think it takes an article to know what you are seeing with your own eyes. If you aren't WANTING to believe otherwise, what is happening with the Cowboys right now is pretty clear to see.
 

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rcaldw;2591802 said:
I agree with you Apollo. Even though you read just one of my commissioner ideas (the first one) and determined it was all dumb. That's a little high and mighty isn't it ;)

All kidding aside, I don't think it takes an article to know what you are seeing with your own eyes. If you aren't WANTING to believe otherwise, what is happening with the Cowboys right now is pretty clear to see.

You wanted to get rid of instant replay, thats why. But its cool, I actually less than one minue ago was giving you props in another thread.
 

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Apollo Creed;2591813 said:
You wanted to get rid of instant replay, thats why. But its cool, I actually less than one minue ago was giving you props in another thread.

I know, I saw (appreciate it), and I was just kidding you. I'm not that sensitive. Heck, I was bored and thought up the list idea. But today we have more "real" Cowboys news. Unfortunately, once again, it isn't positive news.
 

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wileedog;2591657 said:
Actually it reeks of total security. As in "what are you going to do, fire me?"

I really think Romo used to play hard for Parcells, not because he has a Troy-esque obsession with winning. You could see it in the quotes he made, how he constantly referenced what Bill was teaching him, and obviously in the way he approached the game. Heck last year when Bill was gone he was still quoting him in interviews. He was more than a coach, he was a mentor for him.

This year celebrity has fully kicked in. Bill is gone, and he has the contract, he has the girl, the big house and a bunch of people and tabloids telling him how wonderful he is.

And he has a coach, OC and most importantly a GM not only enabling him, but in Jerry's case probably setting up the photo ops for him.

Romo takes the blame, he is ultimately responsible, but I still think one of the worst consequences of this current train wreck is that after a decade we finally found a QB worth a damn and Jerry's Circus is ruining him.

exactly. he worked hard for the contract. then he got it. i think that was his motivation during the earlier part of 2007. now he's very secure with his job. like a CEO who knows he's never gonna get fired, that the only way he'll lose this job is if he quits on his own.

if the chance of winning the superbowl is not enough motivation for him to be better and correct his mistakes, i dunno what will. if he's ok with being a solid, good player, one who's ok without ever having won the sb, then what's gonna drive him to put his best and win the big prize? it's different when you're secure enough abt your job and when you're passionate abt it.
 

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It doesn't matter what anyone says. Romo turns the ball over too much. Someone who threw thousands of balls to correct his throwing motion and accuracy can hardly be accused of not trying hard enough.

All you need to do is open your eyes. And I'm acknowledging some of the INTs were on his WRs.

Start taking the OL out every week Tony. Do what you know you need to do. Garrett, the OL, and the WRs are all involved here. As well as Wade and Jerry. Tony knows what's on him. His part is up to him.
 

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Romo is soft. No question about it. IN fairness,most guys would be too with A) all that money that he didn't really have to earn B) JESSICA C) Enablers like Wade and JJ constantly stroking him and not holding him accountable for mistakes. He has no desire to change because no one is pushing him to get better.
 

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Doomsday101;2591748 said:
Because he does not say what you think he should say does not mean a thing, this frankly is like watching wild dogs going after a piece of meat. Fans clearly have the right to think anything they choose I think Romo can and will lead this team to a championship before all is said and done. I have not given up on him.

Your correct in stating what I or any fan thinks means very little to Tony or his/team's performance on the field. What I think is important is what his teammates think. What he says in the locker room/practice field/etc matters and if he isn't communicating/leading there then his teammates will be more inclined to be influenced by what is put forth in the media. The QB is naturally looked upon as the leader by most football players. Especially if the QB also can perform on the field.(TOs aside Romo does excel on the field) Rookie QBs can be expected to grow into more leadership responsibilities (Romo has been around long enough).

Even with all the media crawling around VR and the team, we get a snippet of what is said and goes on behind closed doors. What we do hear does not seem to paint the picture of Romo being the leader to lead/rally/demand the effort/performance required for a team to reach the pinnacles of success. Especially a team that has appeared to have more than its share of "personalities".

Will Tony lead us deep into the playoffs? I don't know but I personally haven't seen some of the leadership qualities that I think are necessary and exhibited by most QBs that have achieved great team success.
 

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slogriff;2592014 said:
Your correct in stating what I or any fan thinks means very little to Tony or his/team's performance on the field. What I think is important is what his teammates think. What he says in the locker room/practice field/etc matters and if he isn't communicating/leading there then his teammates will be more inclined to be influenced by what is put forth in the media. The QB is naturally looked upon as the leader by most football players. Especially if the QB also can perform on the field.(TOs aside Romo does excel on the field) Rookie QBs can be expected to grow into more leadership responsibilities (Romo has been around long enough).

Even with all the media crawling around VR and the team, we get a snippet of what is said and goes on behind closed doors. What we do hear does not seem to paint the picture of Romo being the leader to lead/rally/demand the effort/performance required for a team to reach the pinnacles of success. Especially a team that has appeared to have more than its share of "personalities".

Will Tony lead us deep into the playoffs? I don't know but I personally haven't seen some of the leadership qualities that I think are necessary and exhibited by most QBs that have achieved great team success.

We get what the media gives us and we get opinion from outside of the organization
 

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Hey Tony: You're a professional football player AND on top of that, the QB of the greatest organization in the league. There is nothing *BUT* winning the Super Bowl.

Anything less is stacked up evidence of a mediocre life. Good grief, who gets a chance to play in the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE and be the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys and says "win some, lose some...oh well" I'm sorry but that is a loser's attitude. If he's trying to put on a good face after a game, screw it, be angry, be upset. Show everybody you have the desire in you even after you step off the field otherwise you're just another chump collecting a check.
 

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Idgit;2591652 said:
What Tony Romo--or any other QB for that matter--says in a post-loss press conference has nothing to do with the ability to lead a team. It's not even data that's useful in evaluating. For every Tebow comment, you can find a comment from a player who put his chips on the table and then came up flat. It's preparation and play on the field that matters, and if you want a beef with Tony Romo, then be critical of that.

A man's words can give one insight into who he is. If he is a player that hates to lose, it will show up in the effort he puts into practice and preparation. If stories are true, Romo undoubtedly worked overtime to study film and practice throws when he was up and coming. If he is no longer doing this, I can't help but wonder why and it's no surprise that the Cowboys struggled like they did in 08.

I am not an eye witness to his practice habits or the atmosphere of the Cowboys locker room, so I can't honestly say one way or the other.

However, something is definately wrong at the Ranch, but I'm not convinced the man in charge has the wisdom or desire to correct it.
 

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Now the media and many of our fans are now starting to see it. Romo has a lot of work to do if he is to ever hold a candle to the type of leadership the Aikmans and Staubachs exhibited during their tenures.

Now I don't seem to have the outcast opinion of Romo that I apparently had weeks ago. Romo has some issues that he needs to resolve and resolve quickly. It all starts with the HC IMO. He has got to demand a certain standard from his players "especially" his field general...

What a freaking mess...
 

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yimyammer;2592439 said:
A man's words can give one insight into who he is. If he is a player that hates to lose, it will show up in the effort he puts into practice and preparation. If stories are true, Romo undoubtedly worked overtime to study film and practice throws when he was up and coming. If he is no longer doing this, I can't help but wonder why and it's no surprise that the Cowboys struggled like they did in 08.

I am not an eye witness to his practice habits or the atmosphere of the Cowboys locker room, so I can't honestly say one way or the other.

However, something is definately wrong at the Ranch, but I'm not convinced the man in charge has the wisdom or desire to correct it.

What a man says in the press is an exercise in managing expectations and covering your butt. Especially when the quote in the press is something the same player has said before on more than one occasion. What he says in team meetings or in the huddle carries much more weight. What he does on the field is the only thing that really matters.

People are going *way* overboard reacting to one unsupported comment about Tony's practice habits. This is a guy who's built his reputation on working and hustling. He was limited in his return, injured, and players were still talking late in the season about him being a tough QB and one of the best in the league. I don't buy any of it. This guy is a gym rat and a player. He's got a great attitude towards life and towards the game. Tony Romo's effort and commitment to winning is not the problem. It just isn't. He also didn't attack Jason Garrett after the Ravens game.

We've got enough obvious issues on this team to worry about. There's no need to go looking for more babies when we're all out of bathwater.
 

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Doomsday101;2592200 said:
We get what the media gives us and we get opinion from outside of the organization

We do get a slice of what is happening/being said. However, the fans/media asked much of this past season who are the players to provide the leadership/ensure accountablility/inspire the team to realize their immense potential as a team.

There were plenty of player interviews/comments that responded to these inquiries and for the most part they were ambiquous or listed several players where Romo might have been the 3rd or 4th player named (if at all) or maybe mentioned Tony as a leader "by example". Which is a polite way of saying he doesn't stand up and make his opinion heard or impose his will. By the nature of his position Romo has a bully pulpit that needs to be used from time to time. There were many times this past year that screamed for Romo to take the reigns and it appears he didn't or couldn't.

I would expect a QB who was an acknowledged leader in the clubhouse would have more vocal support by his teammates. With the possible exception of his friend, Witten, players had plenty of opportunities to express their belief that Romo was their leader on and off the field.
 
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