Dallas vs. KC

[Shaun]

Wow. I think you've made a gross miscalculation.

How can you not be impressed? We just put 171 yards on the #1 run defense.

Really, I think you have made a gross miscalculation. This defense has been playing lights out.

And the ranking you are quoting is misleading. They are number 1 in yards because nobody attempts to run the ball against them. The Denver defense would be less impressive if you were to look at YPC.

 

[GoChiefs]

The Denver defense would be less impressive if you were to look at YPC.

That's an interesting statement.

Dallas YPC allowed: 4.2

Denver YPC allowed: 3.9

Does this mean KC will run over Dallas as well?

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Go with your head.

Your heart is in the wrong place.

 

[TunaFan33]

That's an interesting statement.

Dallas YPC allowed: 4.2

Denver YPC allowed: 3.9

Does this mean KC will run over Dallas as well?

FWIW-this 05 season has had many, many wrinkles. At one moment, the Falcons were the favorites to win the Super Bowl. However, at the next, they've folded.

Both Dallas and KC are pretty darn good football teams. However-I would bet on the home team in this head-head matchup.

 

[juice28]

I know I'm totally biased, but the glass is half full. We were in every game this season. Not too many teams can say that. And remember what Bill said in the beginning of the season about close games and the sooner or later you're going to start winning more than you're losing....well it's time for the averages to go in our favor. Again, I'm biased, but I think we're a couple of games from being serious SB contenders. On the downside, we're a couple of games from "Who should we draft?"

 

[Doomsday101]

Cowboys are favored by 3 points in the game and I think they will cover the spread.

 

[MS17]

Have read a few lines from pundits who claim the KC/Dallas game Sunday keeps one team's playoff hopes alive, and the loser in all probability goes home, no playoffs. If we lose Sunday, I dont want to hear statistical probabilities or what-ifs either. This is the second "must win" game in two weeks.
Get it done, Cowboys.

 

[Doomsday101]

Have read a few lines from pundits who claim the KC/Dallas game Sunday keeps one team's playoff hopes alive, and the loser in all probability goes home, no playoffs. If we lose Sunday, I dont want to hear statistical probabilities or what-ifs either. This is the second "must win" game in two weeks.
Get it done, Cowboys.

I agree it is a big game. I will say until the league office tells the Cowboys they are out of the playoff race I will still expect the Cowboys to go out and put the best players they have on the field to achive the post-season.

 

[brokeback]

Apparently, the Chiefs are more talented on both sides of the ball. Add to that Surtain is better than Newman, Knight and Roy Williams are about the same player, and Warfield is easily better than Anthony Henry.

This is what goes wrong when you judge talent from a stat sheet.

http://www.***NOT-ALLOWED***.com/BB/showthread.php?t=130802

His analysis is almost spot on. Newman is a very good CB. Surtain has made multiple Probowls. He gave Surtain a 6/4 edge. At worst it's 5/5.

He gave Roy Williams a 7/3 edge over Sammy Knight. That's generous. Williams is a stud, but Knight leads the NFL in turnovers forced over the last 5 years.

Henry and Warfield are both solid #2 CBs. Notice that he gave Warfield the edge because of the fact that Henry is nowhere near 100%.

Kennison and Glenn are the same guy. Their ages are almost as identical as their stats. Any unbiased analysis would call this a push. I actually looked at ESPN and noticed that Kennison is a higher pick in their fantasy leagues and is owned by more players than Glenn.

 

[brokeback]

Really, I think you have made a gross miscalculation. This defense has been playing lights out.

And the ranking you are quoting is misleading. They are number 1 in yards because nobody attempts to run the ball against them. The Denver defense would be less impressive if you were to look at YPC.

Lights out?

You've given up almost 300 yards rushing in the last 2 weeks. Denver also gives up considerably fewer ypc than do the Cowboys. It's not like you didn't try to run the ball against them when you played them. You ran 29 times for 85 yards (2.9 ypc). The following week, we ran 37 times for 168 yards and 2 TDs (4.5 ypc).

 

[Doomsday101]

Lights out?

You've given up almost 300 yards rushing in the last 2 weeks. Denver also gives up considerably fewer ypc than do the Cowboys. It's not like you didn't try to run the ball against them when you played them. You ran 29 times for 85 yards (2.9 ypc). The following week, we ran 37 times for 168 yards and 2 TDs (4.5 ypc).

And what has the KC defense done? not a damn thing they rank around the bottom of the league and your bragging on them? Give me a break your team is overrated and your cry baby coach is ridiculas every time I turn around he is boo hooing over some lame ars ****. If KC defense was that great they would not be ranked 27 and giving up 21 points a game. Compared that to Dallas who is giving up 17 points a game.

 

[jspchief]

Personally, I think this will be LJ's biggest test. Dallas is incredibly stingy against the run, and it will take patience from Saunders if we're going to get the job done.

A big part of Denver's run D success has to do with teams abandoning the run early on them. LJ's 4th qtr success against them seems to support that theory.

I don't think Dallas has had the luxury of big leads to force teams out of their run game, so in many ways, I think that legitimizes their run Defense more.

LJ and KC's O-line is probably going to be the best run attack you've seen all year. I don't know if that mean's it will be successful, but I do think it will be your biggest test.

 

[brokeback]

And what has the KC defense done? not a damn thing they rank around the bottom of the league and your bragging on them? Give me a break your team is overrated and your cry baby coach is ridiculas every time I turn around he is boo hooing over some lame ars ****. If KC defense was that great they would not be ranked 27 and giving up 21 points a game. Compared that to Dallas who is giving up 17 points a game.

What has our defense done? If you could read, you'd already know. We haven't given up a 100 yard rusher in nearly 20 games. We're 3rd in the AFC in forcing TOs. We've been giving up around 285 ypg over the last month. The Chiefs have had a high scoring offense the last few years. As a result, there have been a lot more total plays run per game. This inflates the number of yards and points allowed.
There's a reason the Chiefs have a better record than the Cowboys despite the fact that we play in the strongest division in the strongest conference and the Cowboys play in the NFC (aka the JV league.)
I'll take a team coming off of 3 straight wins and starting to peak over a team that's in a free-fall any day. (That's your cue to start making excuses for losing 2 in a row at the most critical point in the season.)

 

[Doomsday101]

What has our defense done? If you could read, you'd already know. We haven't given up a 100 yard rusher in nearly 20 games. We're 3rd in the AFC in forcing TOs. We've been giving up around 285 ypg over the last month. The Chiefs have had a high scoring offense the last few years. As a result, there have been a lot more total plays run per game. This inflates the number of yards and points allowed.
There's a reason the Chiefs have a better record than the Cowboys despite the fact that we play in the strongest division in the strongest conference and the Cowboys play in the NFC (aka the JV league.)
I'll take a team coming off of 3 straight wins and starting to peak over a team that's in a free-fall any day. (That's your cue to start making excuses for losing 2 in a row at the most critical point in the season.)

No excuse we lost 2 close games. Your D is ranked 27 sing their praise all you want I'm not impressed at all with KC defense or lack of. Offense they do present a challenge but defense is a fricken joke.

 

[GoChiefs]

No excuse we lost 2 close games. Your D is ranked 27 sing their praise all you want I'm not impressed at all with KC defense or lack of. Offense they do present a challenge but defense is a fricken joke.

No, it's not. Our run defense is ranked among the league leaders. You think that is a joke?

 

[TunaFan33]

No, it's not. Our run defense is ranked among the league leaders. You think that is a joke?

Huh? Gunther Cunningham has been the best thing to their D. He's definitely alot better than that incompetent s*** Greg Robinson, IMHO.

Who said your D was a joke?

I'm just glad we're playing in Texas Stadium. If we were playing in Arrowhead, we would be DOOMED.

 

[brokeback]

No, it's not. Our run defense is ranked among the league leaders. You think that is a joke?

These guys think pass defense is a good indicator of a team's defense. They probably think that throwing for 300 yards is a positive thing for a team to do. Me? I'd love Green to throw 21 times for 185 yards and no INTs and Bledsoe to throw 42 times for 320 yards.

 

[brokeback]

Who said your D was a joke?

UMMMMMMMM I would say the guy he quoted in his post was the culprit.

 

[jspchief]

No excuse we lost 2 close games. Your D is ranked 27 sing their praise all you want I'm not impressed at all with KC defense or lack of. Offense they do present a challenge but defense is a fricken joke.

Maybe it is a bit of a "joke". Although I think our run D is legitimate, and our scoring D is solid.

That begs the question, how good does our joke of a defense have to be to slow down your mediocre offense?

It should be an interesting game. Strength versus strength, weakness versus weakness. I think we'll both get a good idea of where our teams are headed after this game. If KC loses, I think it establishes the we are nothing better thana middle of the road team. I Dallas losing would say pretty much the same thing.

 

[brokeback]

This should be an interesting game because of the contrasting styles. I think the Chiefs are going to try to stretch the field on the opening drive and put the Cowboys on their heels knowing that they aren't a team built to play from behind and may start to hang their heads if they get down by 14 points. If the Cowboys can disrupt our offense by getting into the backfield the way Denver did in week 3, the Chiefs may push the panic button again and get blown out.