Dallas vs. Philly common playoff opponents

[StarOfGlory]

I see a lot of arguing over who has the better roster or who has been the better team over the past few years. For the record, I think both teams are evenly matched this year with offsetting strengths and weaknesses.

Head to head matchups between our teams can be deceiving and telling at the same time. Both teams have suffered serious injuries over the past three years. The Eagles have done a better job of compensating for said injuries, as evidenced by their Super Bowl win and truth be told, a dropped ball from facing a Ram team in the NFCCG that they have beaten twice in the past two years (thank you Lord for that dropped pass!!!)

Here are the Dallas and Philly records against the following teams over the past three years: Vikings, Saints, Rams, Falcons, Panthers, Packers, Bears, and for fun, The Evil Empire of the Patriots. I took the NFC teams as teams that have been considered playoff threats the past 2-3 years.

Vs. the Rams: Cowboys 0-2, Eagles 2-0
Vs. the Vikings: Both teams 1-0
Vs. the Saints: Cowboys 1-0, Eagles 0-2
Vs the Falcons: Cowboys 1-1, Eagles 3-0
Vs. the Panthers: Cowboys 0-1, Eagles 1-0
Vs. the Packers: Cowboys 1-2, Eagles 0-1
Vs. the Bears: Both teams 1-0
Vs. the Patriots: Cowboys 0-0, Eagles 1-0 (SB)
Side note: IIRC, we haven't beaten the Patriots since 1996!!!!!

Final tally: Cowboys 5-6, Eagles 8-3 against common quality opponents. I am discounting the SB win for the Eagles since we didn't play them during the specified time period. Adding in the SB victory give them an 9-3 record against an opponent we can't seem to beat these days. They also have that additional playoff win against the Bears last year.

So fellow fans, we have gone 4-2 against a quality divisional opponent over the past three years. Do not drag out the injury excuse for either team too much, as both have suffered. However, for some reason, they have generally played better against better opponents than we have.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

All teams match up differently, so there's really not much to take from this, with all due respect.

What I look at is the fact Dallas is 4-2 against the Eagles since 2016; and since one loss was a "throwaway game" for Dallas in the 2016 finale and one win was a "throwaway" for Philly in 2017, to me the teams are pretty much even.

However, on a side note, Dallas is 4-0 against the Iggles in games in which Ezekiel Elliott has played.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

So you start with Eagles loss to the Rams

Then in your record counter you have the Eagles as 2-0
See any issue there?

And you didn't include Seahawks for some reason

 

[charron]

I see a lot of arguing over who has the better roster or who has been the better team over the past few years. For the record, I think both teams are evenly matched this year with offsetting strengths and weaknesses.

Head to head matchups between our teams can be deceiving and telling at the same time. Both teams have suffered serious injuries over the past three years. The Eagles have done a better job of compensating for said injuries, as evidenced by their Super Bowl win and truth be told, a dropped ball from facing a Ram team in the NFCCG that they have beaten twice in the past two years (thank you Lord for that dropped pass!!!)

Here are the Dallas and Philly records against the following teams over the past three years: Vikings, Saints, Rams, Falcons, Panthers, Packers, Bears, and for fun, The Evil Empire of the Patriots. I took the NFC teams as teams that have been considered playoff threats the past 2-3 years.

Vs. the Rams: Cowboys 0-2, Eagles 2-0
Vs. the Vikings: Both teams 1-0
Vs. the Saints: Cowboys 1-0, Eagles 0-2
Vs the Falcons: Cowboys 1-1, Eagles 3-0
Vs. the Panthers: Cowboys 0-1, Eagles 1-0
Vs. the Packers: Cowboys 1-2, Eagles 0-1
Vs. the Bears: Both teams 1-0
Vs. the Patriots: Cowboys 0-0, Eagles 1-0 (SB)
Side note: IIRC, we haven't beaten the Patriots since 1996!!!!!

Final tally: Cowboys 5-6, Eagles 8-3 against common quality opponents. I am discounting the SB win for the Eagles since we didn't play them during the specified time period. Adding in the SB victory give them an 9-3 record against an opponent we can't seem to beat these days. They also have that additional playoff win against the Bears last year.

So fellow fans, we have gone 4-2 against a quality divisional opponent over the past three years. Do not drag out the injury excuse for either team too much, as both have suffered. However, for some reason, they have generally played better against better opponents than we have.

Are all of these opponents in the same year? Teams change yearly so if not then you need to count wins vs all playoff teams for each year you are looking at.

 

[jazzcat22]

What does not having beat NE since 1996 have to do with it, although a side note.
Seems like a jab. None of this proves anything either. Are you making a case for the Eagles being better? Seems like it. And this is not the case, and has nothing to do with this season.

What about the .steelers, we beat them when we were supposed to lose, as Dak’s next big test. Not sure what Philly did against them that year. But Steelers were considered a SB favorite that year.

 

[HungryLion]

I appreciate your time and analysis.

Eagles have fared better over top competition.

Having that 3-0 stretch in a playoff run obviously makes a big difference.

One minor correction. Eagles lost to the Vikings last season. They also lost to the panthers also last season.

 

[StarOfGlory]

So you start with Eagles loss to the Rams

Then in your record counter you have the Eagles as 2-0
See any issue there?

And you didn't include Seahawks for some reason

That is a typo, the Eagles didn’t lose to the Rams, that was referring to the drop against the Saints in last year’s playoffs. It won’t let me edit. I thought that most posters would know who I mean.

 

[HungryLion]

If we are talking common playoff level opponents we should mention the chiefs.

Cowboys 1-0 against them. Eagles 0-1.

So the numbers are a little closer if you mention those games and add in the eagles Vikings and panthers losses that were omitted.

 

[acr731]

I see a lot of arguing over who has the better roster or who has been the better team over the past few years. For the record, I think both teams are evenly matched this year with offsetting strengths and weaknesses.

Head to head matchups between our teams can be deceiving and telling at the same time. Both teams have suffered serious injuries over the past three years. The Eagles have done a better job of compensating for said injuries, as evidenced by their Super Bowl win and truth be told, a dropped ball from facing a Ram team in the NFCCG that they have beaten twice in the past two years (thank you Lord for that dropped pass!!!)

Here are the Dallas and Philly records against the following teams over the past three years: Vikings, Saints, Rams, Falcons, Panthers, Packers, Bears, and for fun, The Evil Empire of the Patriots. I took the NFC teams as teams that have been considered playoff threats the past 2-3 years.

Vs. the Rams: Cowboys 0-2, Eagles 2-0
Vs. the Vikings: Both teams 1-0
Vs. the Saints: Cowboys 1-0, Eagles 0-2
Vs the Falcons: Cowboys 1-1, Eagles 3-0
Vs. the Panthers: Cowboys 0-1, Eagles 1-0
Vs. the Packers: Cowboys 1-2, Eagles 0-1
Vs. the Bears: Both teams 1-0
Vs. the Patriots: Cowboys 0-0, Eagles 1-0 (SB)
Side note: IIRC, we haven't beaten the Patriots since 1996!!!!!

Final tally: Cowboys 5-6, Eagles 8-3 against common quality opponents. I am discounting the SB win for the Eagles since we didn't play them during the specified time period. Adding in the SB victory give them an 9-3 record against an opponent we can't seem to beat these days. They also have that additional playoff win against the Bears last year.

So fellow fans, we have gone 4-2 against a quality divisional opponent over the past three years. Do not drag out the injury excuse for either team too much, as both have suffered. However, for some reason, they have generally played better against better opponents than we have.

Dallas has Garrett; all those other teams don't. So there you go.

 

[StarOfGlory]

What does not having beat NE since 1996 have to do with it, although a side note.
Seems like a jab. None of this proves anything either. Are you making a case for the Eagles being better? Seems like it. And this is not the case, and has nothing to do with this season.

What about the .steelers, we beat them when we were supposed to lose, as Dak’s next big test. Not sure what Philly did against them that year. But Steelers were considered a SB favorite that year.

I didn’t include AFC teams, only NFC because we can’t play AFC teams in the playoffs. Don’t get butthurt over the Patriots—I was surprised when I looked that up. If it makes you feel any better, we owned them for many years before 1996.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

If we are talking common playoff level opponents we should mention the chiefs.

Cowboys 1-0 against them. Eagles 0-1.

So the numbers are a little closer if you mention those games and add in the eagles Vikings and panthers losses that were omitted.

Yeah. This was put together quickly

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I didn’t include AFC teams, only NFC. Don’t get butthurt over the Patriots—I was surprised when I looked that up. If it makes you feel any better, we owned them for many years before 1996.

You didnt include AFC teams

Do you know which conference the Patriots play for? Yet you included them despite the Cowboys not having played them, so they weren't even a mutual match up.

If done correctly I like the topic, it just wasnt.

 

[StarOfGlory]

Dallas has Garrett; all those other teams don't. So there you go.

Would we have done better with Pederson? I don’t know.

 

[acr731]

If we are talking common playoff level opponents we should mention the chiefs.

Cowboys 1-0 against them. Eagles 0-1.

So the numbers are a little closer if you mention those games and add in the eagles Vikings and panthers losses that were omitted.

You do realize the Cowboys can't play the Chiefs in the playoffs, right?

 

[StarOfGlory]

You didnt include AFC teams

Do you know which conference the Patriots play for? Yet you included them despite the Cowboys not having played them, so they weren't even a mutual match up.

If done correctly I like the topic, it just wasnt.

I clearly said “just for fun” when I added the Patriots. I might as well delete this thread before too many people get triggered.

 

[HungryLion]

You do realize the Cowboys can't play the Chiefs in the playoffs, right?

You did notice him list a whole lot of opponents that neither team played in the playoffs right?

The list was clearly how the teams have fared against playoff caliber teams over the past 3 years. Obviously the chiefs are a playoff caliber team.

 

[acr731]

You did notice him list a whole lot of opponents that neither team played in the playoffs right?

The list was clearly how the teams have fared against playoff caliber teams over the past 3 years. Obviously the chiefs are a playoff caliber team.

I did, and all of them are NFC opponents. I'm guessing the Cheatriots were added just for the shock value of knowing Dallas hasn't beat them in 23 years.

Besides, the thread was about common playoff opponents for the most part, not playoff level opponents. And neither Dallas or Philly can play the Chiefs in a playoff game. The Chiefs would have to move to the NFC.

 

[DasSchnitzel]

This is just a collection of teams, there's no real thought put into it.

We've only got NFC teams for some reason, except NE who we apparently didn't even play. We were a totally different team when we beat Seattle compared to when we lost to Carolina, but that's not being taken into account. For that matter why isn't Seattle on this list?

 

[jazzcat22]

I didn’t include AFC teams, only NFC because we can’t play AFC teams in the playoffs. Don’t get butthurt over the Patriots—I was surprised when I looked that up. If it makes you feel any better, we owned them for many years before 1996.

Not butt hurt, it added nothing to your post. so don’t get insulting over it. It is stupid of you to do so.
And still seems you cherry picked opponents to your choosing.

 

[HungryLion]

I did, and all of them are NFC opponents. I'm guessing the Cheatriots were added just for the shock value of knowing Dallas hasn't beat them in 23 years.

Besides, the thread was about common playoff opponents for the most part, not playoff level opponents. And neither Dallas or Philly can play the Chiefs in a playoff game. The Chiefs would have to move to the NFC.

It’s not about common playoff opponents.

Cowboys haven’t played the Vikings or saints or bears or panthers, etc in the playoffs.

The eagles haven’t played the packers or panthers or rams in the playoffs.

The OP actually said it’s comparing records against “common quality opponents”.

The chiefs are a quality opponent that the cowboys and eagles have both played. Which is why I mentioned them. Although now I do recognize that he didn’t mention AFC teams.

I’m actually not trying to attack his post. It’s a good Thread I think. Just trying to add to it by offering other valid comparisons to consider.