Damontre Moore hopes summit has elevated his pass rush skill

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Damontre Moore hopes summit has elevated his pass-rush skills
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    Todd ArcherESPN Staff Writer
OXNARD, Calif. -- At the end of June, Damontre Moore found himself at Stanford with some of the NFL's best pass-rushers at the Von Miller Pass Rush Summit.

There was the event's host, Von Miller, Moore's former teammate at Texas A&M and perhaps the most lethal pass-rusher in the game today. There was Khalil Mack, Cliff Avril, Olivier Vernon, Dee Ford, Shane Ray and Cassius Marsh.

The recently retired DeMarcus Ware, whom Moore watched for years as a Dallas Cowboys fan growing up, was one of the instructors. So was former Atlanta Falcon Chuck Smith, who is becoming one of the go-to defensive line gurus.

Damontre Moore, who grew up a Cowboys fan, signed with Dallas in the offseason and is eager to show what he learned over the summer. AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez
"You had all these different specimens, from a speed pass-rusher to bull-[rush] pass-rusher, a speed-to-power guy, some heavier guys, to learn all these different tricks," said Moore, who signed a two-year deal with the Cowboys in the offseason. "It really was a good experience, and feel like I learned a lot from it."

Miller has been one of Moore's mentors since their days at A&M. Miller was Moore's host on his official visit to College Station. They played together for one season. Miller was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2011 draft by the Denver Broncos. Moore had 26.5 sacks in his three years with the Aggies and was a third-round pick by the New York Giants in 2013.

"We're going on like a 10-year friendship," Moore said. "He's been mentoring me since Day 1, since I got to A&M. He's taught me. I played up under him for one year. He taught me some things technique-wise, just how to be a man, how to approach the game. His experiences have definitely helped me, just giving me advice, letting me know when he messed up and learning from his mistakes and don't repeat them. Even if I did repeat them, it was, 'Now you've seen where I've been at.' He's just been a big influence on my life."

The summit lasted one day on the field and included a session in the film room. Players discussed all of the intricacies of their position. Each went to the front of the room to discuss one of his plays, with the rest of the group chiming in with suggestions.

As Cowboys camp gets going, Moore finds himself recalling the lessons learned at the summit.

"I've been practicing my get-off, like how DeMarcus Ware taught me, trying to tighten up my stance, coil up," Moore said. "It's mostly been the get-off as the main thing, but I'll be able to put a lot more as far as technique and trying the pass-rush moves once we get the pads on."
 

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Has to be the hope. Seen it more often that boneheads tend to be able to talk big and go back to bonehead once it comes down to it.

He will make the team, no question. Irving being gone helps him out.
Oh i agree. What always worries me about these types of players is, they are humbled by their meager salaries (compared to the working class) and you think they have turned the corner and payed them, and bam. Right back to sq 1
 

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If he has truly matured, it would be excellent.

I am still skeptical given his track record. My question would be why the sudden maturation.

I think he had a talking to that got through to him. My own theory is that it was a combination of his fiancé and his mother that did the trick.

A good woman can make you, and a bad woman can break you.
 

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I think he had a talking to that got through to him. My own theory is that it was a combination of his fiancé and his mother that did the trick.

A good woman can make you, and a bad woman can break you.
Didn't he have a child? That can make you get your act together too.

That is the thing with a lot of these young players.

They have no idea how quickly they can go from earning six figures to earning $12 bucks an hour working in a warehouse to survive. You wonder why some of them are not scratching, scraping and killing to make it. If they don't get injured, they have a golden opportunity. Some players seem to take things for granted, especially if they were a five star HS recruit, got things easy in school. Once they get in the league somehow, they still don't realize how it can be taken away quickly.
 

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Didn't he have a child? That can make you get your act together too.

That is the thing with a lot of these young players.

They have no idea how quickly they can go from earning six figures to earning $12 bucks an hour working in a warehouse to survive. You wonder why some of them are not scratching, scraping and killing to make it. If they don't get injured, they have a golden opportunity. Some players seem to take things for granted, especially if they were a five star HS recruit, got things easy in school. Once they get in the league somehow, they still don't realize how it can be taken away quickly.

I was just about to say, I think he had a kid that could explain his growing up
 

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If he has truly matured, it would be excellent.

I am still skeptical given his track record. My question would be why the sudden maturation.

Let's face it - many of the fellas on this board probably "matured" at different stages in each of their lives. Hell, I know I didn't "grow-up" until I was around Moore's age (soon-to-be 25), and that was............a great woman and kids.
 

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Didn't he have a child? That can make you get your act together too.

That is the thing with a lot of these young players.

They have no idea how quickly they can go from earning six figures to earning $12 bucks an hour working in a warehouse to survive. You wonder why some of them are not scratching, scraping and killing to make it. If they don't get injured, they have a golden opportunity. Some players seem to take things for granted, especially if they were a five star HS recruit, got things easy in school. Once they get in the league somehow, they still don't realize how it can be taken away quickly.

Some never "get it" hopefully, he has.
 

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Dude has a 10 sacks in 5 seasons and never started a game. Color me really skeptical.
 

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It sure as hell wasn't a talent thing.

Athletic talent perhaps.

To me, talent also includes playing smart football and not exactly relying on physical gifts.

Most of the players in the NFL are on the upper edge of their athletic tiers with a small degree of separation.

Then it comes down to brains and desire, two things he has shown he has not had much of up to date.
 

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Dude has a 10 sacks in 5 seasons and never started a game. Color me really skeptical.

Well, I'm not gonna make excuses for the guy, but look who he's been playing behind since he came into the league (2013):

2013 - NYG: Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka, & JPP were ahead of him
2014 - NYG: Kiwi, JPP, Robert Ayers, Moore
2015 - Traded to Miami to play behind O. Vernon & C. Wake
2016 - Seattle: Bennett, Avril, & Clark

Look at those rotations and tell me where an immature player, even if talented, would be starting?
 

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If he has truly matured, it would be excellent.

I am still skeptical given his track record. My question would be why the sudden maturation.
I was wondering about that myself. And here's what I think for what it's worth:

Demontre grew up a Cowboys fan. His trouble began playing for the Giants; a team he probably hated up until they draft him. They cut him due to an altercation between he and another player in regards to Ear Buds or something...I don't remember and it's not important to my point. He then had stops at the Dolphins, Raiders, and Seahawks before he landed with the Cowboys. You have to think that if this isn't his last chance, it's pretty close. And he's playing for his favorite team so for a myriad of reasons, this is extremely important to him. Those types of circumstances can grow people up.
 

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And he's playing for his favorite team so for a myriad of reasons, this is extremely important to him. Those types of circumstances can grow people up.

I think a lot of people overplay the "playing for his favorite team" thing. There are a lot of players that come out of school that are Cowboys fans. I don't think them finally becoming Cowboys has any impact on motivation and maturing. Same for rookies who say they are lifelong Cowboys fans. That does not change the fact they have a job to do and have to get it done.
 
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