Dan Reeves

[craig71]

Who really knows what the details were that killed the Reeves/Jones alliance?Jerry and Dan and whoever else was involved in the negotiations are the only ones who really know,anything else is speculation.If however it was an issue over a "hours clause" I don't blame Jerry that much.The way I look at it is that if I have the same clause included in every contract for every person in the oraganization and he takes issue I don't want him.Why should I alter my business just to accomadate his wishes,everybody else has the clause and he is no better than anyone else.Point is,how would you like to be on salary with a hours clause while the other guy makes the same money without the clause and only shows up half the time.I don't think Reeves would have done that,but I can understand why Jerry didn't want to oblige his wishes either.

Craig

 

[Seven]

The problem with the hours clause is it meant Reeves could be fired immediately if for even for one day, say, Jason Garrett was at the office longer than he was. It's a ludicrous clause and one Reeves had never had in 30 years of coaching. Reeves has a rep as a workaholic, not as a slacker, so this was an insult.

Jerry just threw a monkey wrench in the deal at the end. Maybe he didn't want any more dead money if he had to clean house next year (although I don't remember that Reeves was getting a multi-year deal). I still suspect Garrett didn't want an alpha male type like Reeves "helping" him.

Yep. He doesn't want any shred of credit for success shared with anybody.

Everyone knows my hatred for jed and most of my posts concerning him could be categoried in the 'conspiracy theory' section, but all I can say is that I can't wait 'til we win a superbowl. I'm dyin', DYIN' to hear what this maniac has to say. Aren't you?

 

[dbair1967]

The problem with the hours clause is it meant Reeves could be fired immediately if for even for one day, say, Jason Garrett was at the office longer than he was. It's a ludicrous clause and one Reeves had never had in 30 years of coaching. Reeves has a rep as a workaholic, not as a slacker, so this was an insult.

Jerry just threw a monkey wrench in the deal at the end. Maybe he didn't want any more dead money if he had to clean house next year (although I don't remember that Reeves was getting a multi-year deal). I still suspect Garrett didn't want an alpha male type like Reeves "helping" him.

Whatever it was it was definitely bizarre, but if Jones is telling the truth that its a clause thats in all coaches deals that he hires, I dont this you can totally blame him.

I know I was really excited about Reeves being around here though.

 

[dbair1967]

According to Star Mag, the clause said that Reeves had to work at least as many hours as Phillips and Garrett. Reeves didn't go for it.

Wasnt there also some talk that Jones was wanting Dan to do some PR work (stuff like commercials or something) to promote the team and the new stadium, and Dan didnt want to do that?

I dont remember all the details, but seems like Mosely was the one talking about that. If its true, I cant blame either Jones or Reeves, because I can see why Dan wouldnt want to do it, just like I can see why Jones would have wanted Dan to do it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Wasnt there also some talk that Jones was wanting Dan to do some PR work (stuff like commercials or something) to promote the team and the new stadium, and Dan didnt want to do that?

I dont remember all the details, but seems like Mosely was the one talking about that. If its true, I cant blame either Jones or Reeves, because I can see why Dan wouldnt want to do it, just like I can see why Jones would have wanted Dan to do it.

I remember that... It was when Reeves was on Galloway's show. Mosley was just trying to joke with Reeves about Jerry asking him to do promotional work for the stadium, but Dan was in such a serious mood, he answered the question seriously and said he'd have done anything like that Jerry wanted him to do.

He really was crushed that he didn't get this job.

 

[Seven]

I remember that... It was when Reeves was on Galloway's show. Mosley was just trying to joke with Reeves about Jerry asking him to do promotional work for the stadium, but Dan was in such a serious mood, he answered the question seriously and said he'd have done anything like that Jerry wanted him to do.

He really was crushed that he didn't get this job.

With Hos, make that 3 of us................

 

[jobberone]

Just another nail in the coffin. Jerry has problems working with people who demand to be in control. Can you imagine a Landry, Lombardi, yada working for Jerry? Nope. Never going to happen.

 

[CF74]

Just another nail in the coffin. Jerry has problems working with people who demand to be in control. Can you imagine a Landry, Lombardi, yada working for Jerry? Nope. Never going to happen.

Jerry just needs to focus on the money aspect of the business and bring in a football mind to run the team. Somehow he can't differentiate the two and it's killing us. Or so it seems...:bang2:

 

[craig71]

Jerry just needs to focus on the money aspect of the business and bring in a football mind to run the team. Somehow he can't differentiate the two and it's killing us. Or so it seems...:bang2:

Wouldn't do any good to have a GM.Jerry would then be accused of meddling with the GM as well as the head coach.Jerry like him or hate him is hands on with everything he does,just the way he is.The best that people can hope for is Stephen Jones,I believe he will start to be more influential with Jerry in the coming years.

Craig

 

[bbgun]

Do you prefer the "clean-cut, corporate" look, or the "shaggy hippy" look?

 

[jazzcat22]

of course

he would definitely give garrett a clue on how to run a offense

people are bashing wade but he has that defense playing solid right now

hes holding up his end so far this season it is the offense that has cost us with both bad play calling and turnovers.

How can you say this when it was the defense that gave up the plays on lat minute drives when really needed. Yes the offense must be more consistent, but I think the defense can also.

I'm not sure if Reeves would have made a difference as a consultant. It's the discipline and execution. If in somewhat of a coaching capacity, yes he would make a difference.

 

[AKATheRake]

Heck, at this point Jerry could hire half the people on this board to crack a whip, state the obvious and it would be an upgrade around this coaching staff in that regard.

Just give someone other than Jerry real authority over these players and OC and we'd probaby get better results. Someone who can say on defense we need to blitz so pick a blitz package with press coverage. On offense, we're running down their throats so pick a runnin package other than a draw, now for this play Red.

Because none of that is happening here, no single reigning general on game days.

 

[jobberone]

More hyperbole. It's asinine to think just anyone could coach anywhere on this team. But there could be some improvement in play calling and execution. And the blitzing and tackling on the defense could improve. I look forward to Romo playing better.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

was supposed to be joinng in an advisory capacity but it all went belly up.

In retrospect (I know, I know..everything is easy in retrospect)....do you think he would be useful to have around valley ranch right now?

No. He's wildly overrated on this forum and in the local Dallas press. Saw him coach in Atlanta for years and in NY before that. Both places were glad to get rid of him. Horrendous drafter. I mean HORRENDOUS.

At best he was a coach who had the unique ability to work with 'One Man Gang' type of teams with Elway in Denver, Jammal Anderson in Atlanta and then Vick for a year in Atlanta.

What's really odd to me is that with a lot of people they want Reeves here but wouldn't want Cowher. Go figure.




YAKUZA

 

[utrunner07]

No it would not have worked even if he was here. Why? Because Jerry would not allow him to do what he wanted to do.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Originally Posted by Hostile
Yes sir, I do. Reeves is no nonsense, old school, and discipline oriented.
Jerry flat out screwed up.

How can you say that Jerry screwed up by not bringing in Reeves, when you're the one who thinks Garrett is so wonderous that he should be more than the leagues highest paid assistant/offensive coordinator -- that he should be the next head coach? The fact is, Garret is not only the leagues most overrated assistant/offensive coordinator, he clearly could have benefited form Reeves saving him this season, just like Sporano did for him 2 years ago -- which was to actually coordinate and call the offensse to a 13-3 record.

I love it when some peple lurk all over a thread ignoring the obvious. :signmast:

 

[Seven]

Jerry just needs to focus on the money aspect of the business and bring in a football mind to run the team. Somehow he can't differentiate the two and it's killing us. Or so it seems...:bang2:

He doesn't know the difference between 'managing' and 'ruining'. He's in a class with Snyder and Al Davis but few admit that. The only difference is that he offers up a new stadium; and we're supposed love him for it. Make you no mistake............. It isn't yours or the teams'. It's Jerry's.


At this point, I seriously think he's nothing more than a rich, punch-drunk, slum lord.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If the hours clause is the real reason, I cant blame Jerry on this one.

If I am hiring somebody to do some work for my business, you dam well better believe there will be something in the contract pertaining to working hours.

Who else here hires an employee and lets them work any hours they want??? Jerry said every coach he has ever hired had this clause and it never bothered anybody else, so why does Dan Reeves get special treatment???

Im with Jerry on this one.

 

[JoeyBones31]

Yes sir, I do. Reeves is no nonsense, old school, and discipline oriented.

Jerry flat out screwed up.

I think there was more to it than Jerry screwing up. My dollars to any-one's donuts says Dan Reeves wanted to call the plays.

And Jerry told him Garrett was his future in the organization, It's just a guess, but I can't see any other reason why the man would walk away from the opportunity to help his old team get back into a dominant role in the NFL.
This is just my theory on why it didn't happen. Any other thoughts? let's hear them.

 

[Big Dakota]

Dan came, Dan saw what a cluster **** Jerry has going and Dan found a way out.