Day 1 and 2 picks relative to pre-draft rankings

[xwalker]

The "reach" crowd should love this.

The fist column is wher the were drafted and the 2nd column is the plus/minus on where they were actually drafted. A negative number indicates how much earlier the player was picked than he was ranked by CBS.

Keep in mind that the draft media put about 90% their effort into the top 50 to 100 players and don't really spend a lot of time debating if a player is a 4th vs 6th round pick.


72 -192 OT Rams Jamon Brown
64 -131 S Patriots Jordan Richards
97 -115 DE Patriots Geneo Grissom
58 -107 DE Cardinals Markus Golden
91 -100 OT Cowboys Chaz Green
63 -89 DE Seahawks Frank Clark
66 -72 OT Titans Jeremiah Poutasi
94 -72 WR Packers Ty Montgomery
56 -62 CB Steelers Senquez Golson
95 -59 RB Commanders Matt Jones
57 -57 OT Rams Robert Havenstein
44 -54 OLB Saints Hau'oli Kikaha
85 -49 TE Bengals Tyler Kroft
36 -46 RB Jaguars TJ Yeldon
83 -45 CB Chargers Craig Mager
31 -41 ILB Saints Stephone Anthony
59 -41 OT Broncos Ty Sambrailo
84 -40 ILB Eagles Jordan Hicks
46 -37 S 49ers Jaquiski Tartt
49 -36 OC Chiefs Mitch Morse
81 -32 OG Bills John Miller
34 -30 OT Buccaneers Donovan Smith
41 -30 WR Panthers Devin Funchess
48 -28 ILB Chargers Denzel Perryman
25 -27 OLB Panthers Shaq Thompson
21 -24 OT Bengals Cedric Ogbuehi
80 -22 CB Lions Alex Carter
28 -20 OG Lions Laken Tomlinson
35 -20 DE Raiders Mario Edwards
75 -20 QB Saints Garrett Grayson
51 -18 OLB Browns Nate Orchard
89 -18 QB Rams Sean Mannion
20 -14 WR Eagles Nelson Agholor
9 -13 OT Giants Ereck Flowers
68 -13 TE Raiders Clive Walford
17 -12 DE 49ers Arik Armstead
24 -12 OT Cardinals DJ Humphries
76 -12 WR Chiefs Chris Conley
69 -11 WR Seattle Tyler Lockett
37 -9 WR Jets Devin Smith
18 -8 CB Chiefs Marcus Peters
43 -8 ILB Texans Benardrick McKinney
30 -7 S Packers Damarious Randall
61 -7 OC Buccaneers Ali Marpet
19 -5 OC Browns Cameron Erving
54 -5 RB Lions Ameer Abdullah
92 -5 TE Broncos Jeff Heuermann
38 -4 DE Commanders Preston Smith
5 -3 OG Commanders Brandon Scherff
16 -3 CB Texans Kevin Johnson
29 -3 WR Colts Phillip Dorsett
3 -2 DE Jaguars Dante Fowler
13 -2 OT Saints Andrus Peat
1 -1 QB Buccaneers Jameis Winston
2 -1 QB Titans Marcus Mariota
10 -1 RB Rams Todd Gurley
4 0 WR Raiders Amari Cooper
7 0 WR Bears Kevin White
23 0 DE Broncos Shane Ray
15 1 RB Chargers Melvin Gordon
8 2 DE Falcons Vic Beasley
11 2 CB Vikings Trae Waynes
12 2 DT Browns Danny Shelton
14 2 WR Dolphins DeVante Parker
42 3 CB Falcons Jalen Collins
93 4 DE Colts Henry Anderson
6 5 DT Jets Leonard Williams
45 5 ILB Vikings Eric Kendricks
52 5 DT Dolphins Jordan Phillips
67 5 OG Jaguars AJ Cann
27 7 CB Cowboys Byron Jones
98 7 CB Chiefs Steven Nelson
33 8 S Giants Landon Collins
65 8 CB Colts D'Joun Smith
78 8 CB Saints PJ Williams
82 8 OLB Jets Lorenzo Mauldin
22 9 OLB Steelers Bud Dupree
26 9 WR Ravens Breshad Perriman
47 9 CB Eagles Eric Rowe
71 10 OC Bears Hroniss Grassu
32 11 DT Patriots Malcom Brown
86 11 RB Cardinals David Johnson
39 12 DT Bears Eddie Goldman
40 12 WR Titans Dorial Green-Beckham
55 12 TE Ravens Maxx Williams
62 13 CB Packers Quinten Rollins
99 15 OLB Bengals Paul Dawson
96 17 DT Browns Xavier Cooper
50 20 CB Bills Ronald Darby
77 21 RB Browns Duke Johnson
87 21 WR Steelers Sammie Coates
53 22 OT Bengals Jake Fisher
70 29 WR Texans Jaelen Strong
73 29 RB Falcons Tevin Coleman
88 34 DE Vikings Danielle Hunter
90 37 DT Ravens Carl Davis
74 41 DE Giants Owamagbe Odighizuwa
60 44 DE Cowboys Randy Gregory
79 44 DE 49ers Eli Harold

 

[jrumann59]

What was the numbers on Green. And if I am reading this right Jones was expected to go 20th and Gregory was expected to 16th.

 

[Alexander]

Value wise we did just fine with the first two picks. The Green one we did not.

This is about as odd of a year as I have seen with the "media reach". I know what we are fed is not what the NFL circles regard. But every year you see UDFAs that were highly regarded in the layman's rankings make it.

I think this is not that great of a class and teams are throwing PR to the wind and filling needs, not even caring about the perception issue.

If you know or have spent any time studying this prospects all year, even as a layman, you can see teams panicked a little bit and took players at certain positions of need. The OL especially. Havenstein and Jamon Brown are not great stud prospects, not in this draft or any other. But they are seasoned and can play right away. That is another aspect to it as well.

 

[locked&loaded]

What was the numbers on Green. And if I am reading this right Jones was expected to go 20th and Gregory was expected to 16th.

Green is -100. not in bold but still listed.

 

[Alexander]

What was the numbers on Green. And if I am reading this right Jones was expected to go 20th and Gregory was expected to 16th.

Green was ranked at 191 on the CBS Sportsline/NFLdraftscout board.

 

[Risen Star]

Please keep in my mind my fantasy that draft media puts about, oh...let me think of a number here...90% of their effort into the....hmmm....let's say top 50-7...no, top 50-100 players in each class.

Please keep that in mind.

 

[xwalker]

What was the numbers on Green. And if I am reading this right Jones was expected to go 20th and Gregory was expected to 16th.

Sorry I said that 1st column was ranking but it is the actual draft position. Yes, Jones was ranked 20 and drafted 27 for a +7 in the plus/minus column. Green was -100.

 

[xwalker]

It's not hard to figure out based on everything that is written or said on radio and TV that the focus of the draft media is on the 1st round and the interest declines rapidly for any players that are not close to the 1st round.

 

[darthseinfeld]

The "reach" crowd should love this.

The fist column is wher the were drafted and the 2nd column is the plus/minus on where they were actually drafted. A negative number indicates how much earlier the player was picked than he was ranked by CBS.

Keep in mind that the draft media put about 90% their effort into the top 50 to 100 players and don't really spend a lot of time debating if a player is a 4th vs 6th round pick.


72 -192 OT Rams Jamon Brown
64 -131 S Patriots Jordan Richards
97 -115 DE Patriots Geneo Grissom
58 -107 DE Cardinals Markus Golden
91 -100 OT Cowboys Chaz Green
63 -89 DE Seahawks Frank Clark
66 -72 OT Titans Jeremiah Poutasi
94 -72 WR Packers Ty Montgomery
56 -62 CB Steelers Senquez Golson
95 -59 RB Commanders Matt Jones
57 -57 OT Rams Robert Havenstein
44 -54 OLB Saints Hau'oli Kikaha
85 -49 TE Bengals Tyler Kroft
36 -46 RB Jaguars TJ Yeldon
83 -45 CB Chargers Craig Mager
31 -41 ILB Saints Stephone Anthony
59 -41 OT Broncos Ty Sambrailo
84 -40 ILB Eagles Jordan Hicks
46 -37 S 49ers Jaquiski Tartt
49 -36 OC Chiefs Mitch Morse
81 -32 OG Bills John Miller
34 -30 OT Buccaneers Donovan Smith
41 -30 WR Panthers Devin Funchess
48 -28 ILB Chargers Denzel Perryman
25 -27 OLB Panthers Shaq Thompson
21 -24 OT Bengals Cedric Ogbuehi
80 -22 CB Lions Alex Carter
28 -20 OG Lions Laken Tomlinson
35 -20 DE Raiders Mario Edwards
75 -20 QB Saints Garrett Grayson
51 -18 OLB Browns Nate Orchard
89 -18 QB Rams Sean Mannion
20 -14 WR Eagles Nelson Agholor
9 -13 OT Giants Ereck Flowers
68 -13 TE Raiders Clive Walford
17 -12 DE 49ers Arik Armstead
24 -12 OT Cardinals DJ Humphries
76 -12 WR Chiefs Chris Conley
69 -11 WR Seattle Tyler Lockett
37 -9 WR Jets Devin Smith
18 -8 CB Chiefs Marcus Peters
43 -8 ILB Texans Benardrick McKinney
30 -7 S Packers Damarious Randall
61 -7 OC Buccaneers Ali Marpet
19 -5 OC Browns Cameron Erving
54 -5 RB Lions Ameer Abdullah
92 -5 TE Broncos Jeff Heuermann
38 -4 DE Commanders Preston Smith
5 -3 OG Commanders Brandon Scherff
16 -3 CB Texans Kevin Johnson
29 -3 WR Colts Phillip Dorsett
3 -2 DE Jaguars Dante Fowler
13 -2 OT Saints Andrus Peat
1 -1 QB Buccaneers Jameis Winston
2 -1 QB Titans Marcus Mariota
10 -1 RB Rams Todd Gurley
4 0 WR Raiders Amari Cooper
7 0 WR Bears Kevin White
23 0 DE Broncos Shane Ray
15 1 RB Chargers Melvin Gordon
8 2 DE Falcons Vic Beasley
11 2 CB Vikings Trae Waynes
12 2 DT Browns Danny Shelton
14 2 WR Dolphins DeVante Parker
42 3 CB Falcons Jalen Collins
93 4 DE Colts Henry Anderson
6 5 DT Jets Leonard Williams
45 5 ILB Vikings Eric Kendricks
52 5 DT Dolphins Jordan Phillips
67 5 OG Jaguars AJ Cann
27 7 CB Cowboys Byron Jones
98 7 CB Chiefs Steven Nelson
33 8 S Giants Landon Collins
65 8 CB Colts D'Joun Smith
78 8 CB Saints PJ Williams
82 8 OLB Jets Lorenzo Mauldin
22 9 OLB Steelers Bud Dupree
26 9 WR Ravens Breshad Perriman
47 9 CB Eagles Eric Rowe
71 10 OC Bears Hroniss Grassu
32 11 DT Patriots Malcom Brown
86 11 RB Cardinals David Johnson
39 12 DT Bears Eddie Goldman
40 12 WR Titans Dorial Green-Beckham
55 12 TE Ravens Maxx Williams
62 13 CB Packers Quinten Rollins
99 15 OLB Bengals Paul Dawson
96 17 DT Browns Xavier Cooper
50 20 CB Bills Ronald Darby
77 21 RB Browns Duke Johnson
87 21 WR Steelers Sammie Coates
53 22 OT Bengals Jake Fisher
70 29 WR Texans Jaelen Strong
73 29 RB Falcons Tevin Coleman
88 34 DE Vikings Danielle Hunter
90 37 DT Ravens Carl Davis
74 41 DE Giants Owamagbe Odighizuwa
60 44 DE Cowboys Randy Gregory
79 44 DE 49ers Eli Harold

Defensive lineman in the draft seem to have been greatly overvalued by the media.

 

[ThreeandOut]

We're in some good company in the reach category (Patriots, Seahawks, Packers, Steelers).

 

[darthseinfeld]

Right now I'm most interested to see Green in TC and preseason. Jones and Gregory you have a bit of a sense in what they can do in the NFL but it will be interesting to see how Green looks compared to Leary and/or Free

 

[darthseinfeld]

We're in some good company in the reach category (Patriots, Seahawks, Packers, Steelers).

Golson was a great pick. I think he will be one of the better CBs in this class

 

[xwalker]

Defensive lineman in the draft seem to have been greatly overvalued by the media.

Yes.

Here they are if you want to see just the DL:
96 69 DT Browns Xavier Cooper
97 68 DE Patriots Geneo Grissom
63 40 DE Seahawks Frank Clark
79 37 DE 49ers Eli Harold
88 35 DE Vikings Danielle Hunter
38 33 DE Commanders Preston Smith
39 33 DT Bears Eddie Goldman
60 25 DE Cowboys Randy Gregory
32 22 DT Patriots Malcom Brown
35 14 DE Raiders Mario Edwards
12 11 DT Browns Danny Shelton
58 3 DE Cardinals Markus Golden
23 -10 DE Broncos Shane Ray
6 -10 DT Jets Leonard Williams
52 -27 DT Dolphins Jordan Phillips
3 -44 DE Jaguars Dante Fowler
8 -46 DE Falcons Vic Beasley
93 -72 DE Colts Henry Anderson
17 -72 DE 49ers Arik Armstead
74 -78 DE Giants Owamagbe Odighizuwa
90 -122 DT Ravens Carl Davis

 

[xwalker]

Right now I'm most interested to see Green in TC and preseason. Jones and Gregory you have a bit of a sense in what they can do in the NFL but it will be interesting to see how Green looks compared to Leary and/or Free

What I always find fascinating is all of the things teams go though to rank players and all of the hits and misses, yet the majority of the time the coaches seem to know as soon as the player is with them for a few practices if he's going to be good.