Day after thoughts

dbair1967;2513649 said:
I really cant think of a more disappointing loss than what we saw last night. Maybe the Niners loss in the NFC Championship game after the 94 season, perhaps the surprise loss to NYG last January. I was just blindsided by how poorly we played in this huge game. I wasnt shocked when we lost to Pittsburgh two weeks ago, but I am shocked we lost to the Ravens at home.

1) There's plenty of blame to go around. Ultimately though two guys deserve the majority of the blame, Hamlin and Romo. Hamlin had the worst game I've ever seen a safety have and continued his absolutely horrible play that started back in TC. Romo threw two more mind boggling, boneheaded picks that cost us dearly. Missed wide open guys, threw to the wrong guys. Got totally outplayed on our homefield by a rookie from Delaware. Was he rushed some, yeah he was. Was that a surprise? No. We rushed their guy too and sacked him 5 times in one half, did he throw a bunch of stupid picks? The plays where he screwed up the most were plays he had little to no pressure on him. The first pick it appeared Witten was wide open 15-20 yds downfield right in his line of sight. Not sure what the hell he was thinking on the 2nd. Missed Miles Austin badly on a gimmee TD, not sure what happened on that long one to Owens when he was open. Looked like he either wasnt expecting the ball or was thinking it would come more towards the inside.





2) Tashard Choice is a real keeper. Sure he did botch that option pitch and had a couple of problems in blitz protection, but otherwise he was outstanding. Somebody is probably going to call this offseason and offer something really good to get this kid, and hopefully Jones just hangs up.

3) I came away pretty impressed with Joe Flacco. I also came away thinking if we had swapped QB's before the game, we'd have won. They've got a good future with him at QB.

4) DeMarcus Ware, what can you say. Only had the one sack but it was huge and we got our first TD because of him. Had a potential game saving forced fumble ruined by that loser Hamlin. On most plays the Ravens had two tackles blocking him, on some plays they had 3 guys dedicated to him. He's the best defensive player in the league by far and should hands down be DPOY whether we go to the playoffs or not.

5) Hats off to Kevin Burnett too (hey Deion, its not BAR-nett), he had another really solid game and should definitely be given strong consideration for a contract extension. Should probably replace Zach Thomas permanently at ILB next yr.


I wouldn't mind a Thomas for Ray Lewis swap.,

6) Bruce Read cant be fired soon enough.

7) I am still amazed at all the bad hops we get on fumbles, and really amazed we cant get more interceptions with all the pressure we get on the QB.

8) Jason Witten is the ultimate warrior, what an effort last night. I bet he isnt more than 60-70%, and he's still getting open, making great catches and taking huge hits.

9) While we still have a decent shot at the playoffs, this is not a team that is going to have any success once (if) they get there. Too many mistakes, too many guys not giving 100%, too many guys unprepared, too many penalties and a turnover prone QB.

10) I think Anthony Henry, Zach Thomas and Cory Proctor have played their last games at Texas Stadium. Either Canty or Spears (hopefully not both) will be gone via free agency. Ken Hamlin should be gone but probably wont be. The one guy we could lose but I hope we dont is Miles Austin. He has a a ton of ability and I bet somebody will pay him really good money to come in and start. He's going to be a good player. Wont be surprised if Miami signs him as Parcells supposedly loved this guy. Some will probably call me out for this, but I'd rather lose Owens at this point than Austin. That obviously wont happen because of Jerry, but Austin could help us win for years whereas Owens probably has one decent yr left.

11) If Norv Turner gets fired in San Diego, Jones should think long and hard about bringing him here. Norv could do wonders for Romo, who has regressed this yr and IMO does a poor job preparing himself during the weeks for these games. Turner is also a master play caller and does a great job of setting up plays. Garrett is deservedly getting alot of criticism now but I dont believe its all his fault, but he needs another yr or two of grooming. Ironically it was Norv who said during the interview process last yr that Garrett wasnt ready to be a fulltime playcalling offensive coordinator. Guess he may have known something.

12) Bradie James didnt even make the THIRD alternate for the probowl. Unbelievable. Somehow Hamlin, who was God-awful all yr was a second alternate. We had nobody chosen as a first alternate.

13) Looking back, Jones has gotta be thinking he just threw a ton of money away this yr and got no ROI. Hamlin was horrendous, Barber was average at best. Adams had an average yr. All those guys got elite player money. Barber is arguably only the 3rd best RB on the team.

14) Awful way to send that great stadium off. The players should be ashamed of themselves, but many dont seem to be. Our QB had that "oh well, it happens" attitude again after the game. Seems others followed in line with that.

15) I think Atlanta and Tampa may very well both lose today, but I think we'll get blown out next week in Philly if Philly wins today and is playing for a playoff spot. If we cant win at home, set up the way we were last night we definitely arnt winning in Philly either.

Disappointing season, no other way to put it. Even with all the injuries there's not much excuse to be 9-6 and probably home for the playoffs with this kind of talent.



Romo's back is not 100% and I don't think the pinkie is either. Throwing a football with touch and velocity can be limited with those injuries. I thought a couple of weeks ago he should have kept the splint on for the rest of the year. I wouldn't mind a Thomas for Ray Lewis swap.,
 
AdamJT13;2514109 said:
Where did you see this? I've been looking all over and haven't seen anything reported about our alternates.

I think it was in the DMN...will see if I can find it

Adams was a second alternate as well. Nobody was a first alternate.
 
Kilyin;2513670 said:
Norv Turner... yeah that's exactly what we need. I agree with a lot of your posts dbair but I don't know what your fascination is with Norvall.

I should have clarified, but I meant as OC or QB coach or some other offensive/ast head coach role.
 
dbair1967;2515062 said:
I should have clarified, but I meant as OC or QB coach or some other offensive/ast head coach role.

I don't think Norv would take the QB coach job under Garrett and I don't think JJ is ready to sacrifice Garrett who he has all but annointed as HC in waiting.

It would be a good hire though and I think he would straighten Romo out and help Garrett mature in his game management.
 
jimmy40;2515075 said:
Ignorant statements have that affect.

RW was built up to such proprotions here leading up to the trade and then he goes out and does nothing. The excuses are running out. HIs production is probably in the bottom third for #2 WRs since he has been here. It just isn't good enough and if he is that injured, his butt should be on the bench because he isn't helping us out there.

Right now, Miles Austin is playing better and is more of a threat - you can see his burst and you can see him getting separation. He just isn't getting much opportunity due to the pecking order established by Jerry.
 
My day after thoughts, as long as our offense can put up 70 points against the Eagles, I have faith in our defense to hold the Eagles just long enough for us to eek out a win.
 
If some team contacts Jerry Jones about Choice, I, too, hope Jones hangs up quickly. I really don't think Jones would think about it, but, if he's approached, I hope he tells me loud and clear...No way.
 
windward;2513666 said:
This is flawed logic. Teams lose heartbreakers at home and then bounce back on the road pretty frequently. One result does not indicate another result MUST happen.

I guess we'll see...COULD they win? sure. Will they play well enough to win based on what we've seen offensively this month, no probably not.

And I dont care what the circumstances are, you cant give up 33 pts and nearly 400 yds in a huge home game against a mediocre offensive team led by a rookie QB from Delaware. Thats just pathetic, as was pretty much everybody that suited up last night not named Ware, Witten and Choice.
 
I think the criticisms of Romo are pretty lacking. It is mostly based on 2 or 3 plays. Half of his incompletions were passes that were thrown away. His 2 interceptions didn't really make all that much difference, especially his first. Outside of missing Austin, I'm not sure where everyone gets all this nonsense about him missing wide open receivers. That just wasn't the case. And outside of the 2 interceptions I'm not sure where you can say he kept throwing to the wrong guy. There's no way to tell that from the broadcast. And you can give Flacco props for a good game, but he wasn't making throws off balance or falling backwards like Romo was on his few throws that were bad and had no chance. Romo easily could have been sacked 4 or 5 more times and then nobody would be talking about it even being close at the end, it would have been like 25-7.
 
ChldsPlay;2515133 said:
I think the criticisms of Romo are pretty lacking. It is mostly based on 2 or 3 plays. Half of his incompletions were passes that were thrown away. His 2 interceptions didn't really make all that much difference, especially his first. Outside of missing Austin, I'm not sure where everyone gets all this nonsense about him missing wide open receivers. That just wasn't the case. And outside of the 2 interceptions I'm not sure where you can say he kept throwing to the wrong guy. There's no way to tell that from the broadcast. And you can give Flacco props for a good game, but he wasn't making throws off balance or falling backwards like Romo was on his few throws that were bad and had no chance. Romo easily could have been sacked 4 or 5 more times and then nobody would be talking about it even being close at the end, it would have been like 25-7.

We all love the guy and want him to succeed here, but dude...he was dreadful yesterday.

Second time in 3 weeks he laid an egg. And thats something he seems to do every December/January.
 
dbair1967;2515148 said:
We all love the guy and want him to succeed here, but dude...he was dreadful yesterday.

Second time in 3 weeks he laid an egg. And thats something he seems to do every December/January.

Outside of the 2 interceptions would you say he laid an egg? I bet not, and I doubt anyone else would either. The offense definitely laid an egg for most of the game, and Romo had some problems, but it wasn't like he was just throwing bad pass after bad pass. It wasn't even close to that.
 
ChldsPlay;2515194 said:
Outside of the 2 interceptions would you say he laid an egg? I bet not, and I doubt anyone else would either. The offense definitely laid an egg for most of the game, and Romo had some problems, but it wasn't like he was just throwing bad pass after bad pass. It wasn't even close to that.

His QB rating was close to my kids age (4) after 3 quarters. Thats pretty damn pathetic. It wasnt like he was throwing balls to our guys and they were dropping them, he just play like dung.

His decision making right now is really awful, and IMO its because he doesnt pay attention to detail. Guys are getting open, you can easily see it. He is supposed to be watching game film, why doesnt he correct some of these mis-reads?
 
I would love to get rid of Adams as he is the poster child for what is wrong with this club...he always pulls an off side in a critical situation when we have a drive going...he has done this for years and he has done nothing to fix it. He is a model for the undisciplined players that we have on this roster....
 
CalCBFan;2514170 said:
I wasn't clear in my post. He said he should always play his best so as not to tarnish the legacy produced on the field.

And as for your reference to his off the field activities, you may not be old enough to remember Lance Rentzel exposing himself (on several occasions) to small children (the reason Minny let him go and sent him to us, where he did the same thing) or Raphael Septien molesting his daughter's teenage (and underage) friends until they sent him back to Mexico. At least Mike kept his vices in the arena of adults...


Irvin was one of my favorite players of all time. I was just being sarcastic.
 

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