DC.COM: Blog: Can The Cowboys Afford To Keep Two Kickers?

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Cbz40;2758127 said:
I would say you make a very good point...It's a shame we missed out on Unger.

Keeping only 5 WRs is a good possibility.


Especially since an improved and more experienced Bennett should be able to line up split out when needed, with his athleticism.
 

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Judas;2758623 said:
For once in my life, I'll allow myself to agree with 5stars. I really don't think we need an extra LB who's going to stink of the bottom of the roster with mediocrity, Folk can nail FGs all over the field, while this new guy can just slam them through the back of the end zone, zero time off the clock, zero chance of bringing the ball back for a TD.

An in and of itself, cuts down on the need of special teams players from a kickoff standpoint.
 

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I would rather dress the kicker who you are getting benefit from. As opposed to suiting up a back up who has a limited impact on ST's. Roll the dice and try it out.
 

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Sarge;2758140 said:
Once Beuhler starts kicking the ball outta endzone and putting the oppostion on the 20 yard line every single time, people will forget real quick that he's taking up a roster spot. All one really has to do is reflect back to last year and realize just how ****ty our special teams were. This will resolve a lot of the problem in that regard.
It's not just the touchbacks but the times he kicks it near the goal line and it's brought back. The average starting yard line on those drives will be relatively low.
 

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fanfromvirginia;2758739 said:
It's not just the touchbacks but the times he kicks it near the goal line and it's brought back. The average starting yard line on those drives will be relatively low.

...and the chance that we'll have another athlete out there that can tackle. Having an extra man in coverage would be huge.
 

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5Stars;2758112 said:
A really stupid question from a stupid Cowboy fan.


Is it really hurting the team as a whole by just keeping ONE guy on the active 53?

I mean, just one guy out of all the others?

I just don't understand how keeping one guy instead of another player active would really hurt?


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I'm for keeping the KO specialist, especially given his supposed KO coverage skills.

However, I'll take a shot at the argument against. It begins and ends with the math. Yes, his spot represents 1/53 available slots. But there are only 45 game-day slots. And special teams specialists, who are considered to be pretty much one-dimensional part-time girly men, normally take up 3 of those slots (PK, P, long snapper). So the KO specialists really drops you from 42 down to 41, which makes it a much bigger deal. Add in the fact that the backup QB is likely not going to contribute and you're down to 40.
 

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So if you go with 3 QB's and 2 Kickers, 1 punter and 1 long snapper how do the other position break down? Which spot do we cut back on. Granted we are only talking 1 spot but still does the OL go 1 less or the DL
 

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Doomsday101;2758778 said:
So if you go with 3 QB's and 2 Kickers, 1 punter and 1 long snapper how do the other position break down? Which spot do we cut back on. Granted we are only talking 1 spot but still does the OL go 1 less or the DL


i think we keep 5 WRs.
 

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Doomsday101;2758778 said:
So if you go with 3 QB's and 2 Kickers, 1 punter and 1 long snapper how do the other position break down? Which spot do we cut back on. Granted we are only talking 1 spot but still does the OL go 1 less or the DL

If you have 3 active QB's on your 53, the 3rd QB does NOT count against the active 45 man roster even though he can play that game, but if he comes in, then you can not bring back either your #1 or #2 QB. So in essence, you have a 46 man roster if you are going to keep 3 QB's.
 

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The backup online

Proctor G/C
Brewster G/T
McQuist swing tackle
Free LT
Holland G

You can go 9, but usually you have 7 to 8 active and you don't have a swing tackle except for mcQuist and he'd be the guy I'd want to cut since we can't cut Procter
 

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Never understood why a kicker can't run down field and make a tackle anyway.

It happens all the time in rugby league and rugby union. Someone please explain to me why this hasn't been done before? And please don't waste your time with the standard all american football players are massive and hard argument. It is not mutually exclusive to be able to kick a football and be big, fast and strong or is my biology letting me down?
 

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ENGCowboy;2758834 said:
Never understood why a kicker can't run down field and make a tackle anyway.

It happens all the time in rugby league and rugby union. Someone please explain to me why this hasn't been done before? And please don't waste your time with the standard all american football players are massive and hard argument. It is not mutually exclusive to be able to kick a football and be big, fast and strong or is my biology letting me down?
Kickers in general are too small and are usually guys that never really played a position but were taken off the soccer field to kick fgs.
 

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speedkilz88;2758843 said:
Kickers in general are too small and are usually guys that never really played a position but were taken off the soccer field to kick fgs.

..not to mention too valuable on a game day roster. What happens if you're only carrying one kicker and he gets knocked out making a tackle? Who's going to kick for you the rest of the game? A punter is likely your only hope. There goes your field position. There goes FG accuracy. Big mistake.
 

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SMCowboy;2758792 said:
If you have 3 active QB's on your 53, the 3rd QB does NOT count against the active 45 man roster even though he can play that game, but if he comes in, then you can not bring back either your #1 or #2 QB. So in essence, you have a 46 man roster if you are going to keep 3 QB's.

I under stand that but you still have to get down to 53 and for most teams that is not an easy task which is why many only carry 2 QB's or 1 kicker you give in one area to get in another. I'm not saying what Dallas is doing is wrong but at the end of day 1 position will be affected by the roster spot that is to be given for an extra kicker all I'm asking is which position. Last year I think we went with 9 OL on the final roster do we go 8? This is all I'm asking how the break down will look in people opinion
 

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speedkilz88;2758843 said:
Kickers in general are too small and are usually guys that never really played a position but were taken off the soccer field to kick fgs.

Yeah, not often will you see a guy with ideal LB size opt for the kicker position.
 

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The Panthers kept 2 kickers and it really helped them, they thought, in terms of field position. They have a Pro Bowl kicker in John Kasay as well but the guy can't kick it inside the 10. It probably meant at elast 10 yards per return. Even Parcells thought that was a big deal if I remember correctly.
 
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