DC - Rob Ryan?

[Galian Beast]

any chance of this? Turner brought him into oakland in 2004. Maybe he would bring him here.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Can coordinators make lateral moves without compensation ?

I dont think it is likely, but I am not sure if the rules are what I think they are for this, which includes draft picks.

But he did interview with the Raiders for the HC spot.

He is an excellent coach of secondaries. Would be an great pickup, if it can happen.

 

[cowboyed]

Is it just a Ryan fetish. Maybe we can lure Nolan Ryan out of retirement. Or how about Ryan O'Neil. Wait a minute first name references don't count, my bad. Ok how about Meg Ryan.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Is it just a Ryan fetish. Maybe we can lure Nolan Ryan out of retirement. Or how about Ryan O'Neil. Wait a minute first name references don't count, my bad. Ok how about Meg Ryan.

Well Ryan did a good job in Oakland, which is more than I can say with Todd Bowles and his swiss cheese secondary.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

ROb isn't going anywhere unless we name him HC

 

[chinch]

what part of NO LATERAL MOVES do cowboy fans not understand?

 

[stealth]

what part of NO LATERAL MOVES do cowboy fans not understand?

need a hug there big guy? Whatcha yellin for?

and oh ya there is an easy way around lateral moves nowadays, its called assistant head coach in charge of defense. Which is a position higher than a coordinator there fore not a lateral move even if only on paper.

But yell some more I like it.

 

[dbair1967]

what part of NO LATERAL MOVES do cowboy fans not understand?

he cant do a lateral move if he's under contract, but if his contract expires he is a free agent and can be hired.

David

 

[AbeBeta]

Coaches can do anything they want if a) they are not under contract or b) they have a contract but their team grants permission to interview.

What folks on this board need to get into their head though is this. No fricking coach in his right mind is going to make this sort of move. I know some of you think the Dallas job is somehow better than others. But a guy like Ryan isn't going to up and leave his current job to come to Dallas. It just doesn't make a lick of sense for him to do that.

Some of you are going to come back with the "but what if we pay him more" angle. That's silly too. No team is going to let you interview their coaches knowing that you are going to make them a big money offer. All that does is create a situation where you might cost the team that was nice enough to grant permission to interview a few hundred grand more a year to retain the guy.

So enough with the fantasies.

Our next DC will either be Bowles or someone else's assistant who is not currently a coordinator.

 

[chinch]

need a hug there big guy? Whatcha yellin for?

and oh ya there is an easy way around lateral moves nowadays, its called assistant head coach in charge of defense. Which is a position higher than a coordinator there fore not a lateral move even if only on paper.

But yell some more I like it.

NOPE.

 

[BulletBob]

Coaches can do anything they want if a) they are not under contract or b) they have a contract but their team grants permission to interview.

What folks on this board need to get into their head though is this. No fricking coach in his right mind is going to make this sort of move. I know some of you think the Dallas job is somehow better than others. But a guy like Ryan isn't going to up and leave his current job to come to Dallas. It just doesn't make a lick of sense for him to do that.

Some of you are going to come back with the "but what if we pay him more" angle. That's silly too. No team is going to let you interview their coaches knowing that you are going to make them a big money offer. All that does is create a situation where you might cost the team that was nice enough to grant permission to interview a few hundred grand more a year to retain the guy.

So enough with the fantasies.

Our next DC will either be Bowles or someone else's assistant who is not currently a coordinator.

I'm not sure I agree with you.

Coordinators jump ship all the time at the end of their contracts.

Money and promise of future advancement would be key factors in such a decision, as well as the current Head Coach.

Now, what would be nice to have is a list of all Coordinators who are currently not under contract into 2007.

My guess is that the list contains slim pickin's.

 

[JPM]

need a hug there big guy? Whatcha yellin for?

and oh ya there is an easy way around lateral moves nowadays, its called assistant head coach in charge of defense. Which is a position higher than a coordinator there fore not a lateral move even if only on paper.

But yell some more I like it.

Naming him assistant head coach won't work either, it's either HC or nothing.
And I didn't have to yell....

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm not sure I agree with you.

Coordinators jump ship all the time at the end of their contracts.

Money and promise of future advancement would be key factors in such a decision, as well as the current Head Coach.

Now, what would be nice to have is a list of all Coordinators who are currently not under contract into 2007.

My guess is that the list contains slim pickin's.

Perhaps I should have qualified my post by saying I was talking about Coords who are under contract and who we might actually want

 

[stealth]

Naming him assistant head coach won't work either, it's either HC or nothing.
And I didn't have to yell....

I don't think that is right, assistant head coach is higher than coordinator. Thats the biggest reason that position came into existance the last few years. Its a loophole around lateral moves.

 

[Skin]

I don't think that is right, assistant head coach is higher than coordinator. Thats the biggest reason that position came into existance the last few years. Its a loophole around lateral moves.

They plugged the loophole for this very reason. Assistant Head Coach is just an assistant.

 

[Tobal]

need a hug there big guy? Whatcha yellin for?

and oh ya there is an easy way around lateral moves nowadays, its called assistant head coach in charge of defense. Which is a position higher than a coordinator there fore not a lateral move even if only on paper.

But yell some more I like it.

We need a sticky, he's yelling because you can no longer use that loophole and it's been talked about 500 times, people just refuse to listen.

 

[stealth]

They plugged the loophole for this very reason. Assistant Head Coach is just an assistant.

when did it get plugged, a ton of coaches in the league have the assistant head coach title. Why would they still be handing it out if it is meaningless?

 

[stealth]

We need a sticky, he's yelling because you can no longer use that loophole and it's been talked about 500 times, people just refuse to listen.

I never read it, whats awesome is when people assume you an idiot based solely on ignorance. ignorance is a lack of knowledge apparently I am ignorant not an idiot, though some would argue I am both. Thanks for being so understanding, its the compassion between posters that keeps me coming back here.

 

[Skin]

when did it get plugged, a ton of coaches in the league have the assistant head coach title. Why would they still be handing it out if it is meaningless?

It's not meaningless, but they are still just "assistants" and are not able to leave without permission, unless they are interviewing for a Head Coach position. Those are the rules!

 

[chinch]

It's not meaningless, but they are still just "assistants" and are not able to leave without permission, unless they are interviewing for a Head Coach position. Those are the rules!

correct.