DE Standard Set? Bennett signs

[DBOY3141]

Just saw on ESPN.

Staying in Seattle. 4 years 32 million, 16 guaranteed.

 

[shmee]

Just saw on ESPN.

Staying in Seattle. 4 years 32 million, 16 guaranteed.

Come on Ware! Don't be stupid.

 

[Section446]

What a great deal for Seattle, damn.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'd love for us to get Ware at 8 mill. Heck, even 9.5 mill would be a nice savings.

I did read that the Bears had offered closer to 9 mill a year on Bennett, so I expect that Ware's agent is all over that number.

Of course the issue here is going to be the guaranteed money. If Ware were willing to reduce to 8 mill a year over the next four, I think the team would definitely guaranteed 16 mill of that.

 

[Galian Beast]

The market was set last year. Bennett is younger, better at this stage in his career, and doesn't miss games.

Ware will be lucky if he can find 6 million per year out there with his injury history. Definitely less guaranteed money.

 

[Future]

Isn't this a good number for the Cowboys, not Ware? If Bennett is only worth 8, then Ware would be worth like 7 tops.

 

[Galian Beast]

I'd love for us to get Ware at 8 mill. Heck, even 9.5 mill would be a nice savings.

I did read that the Bears had offered closer to 9 mill a year on Bennett, so I expect that Ware's agent is all over that number.

Of course the issue here is going to be the guaranteed money. If Ware were willing to reduce to 8 mill a year over the next four, I think the team would definitely guaranteed 16 mill of that.

2.75 million is nice savings? No way...

 

[Section446]

Bennett could have probably gotten $60 million out of Jerry.

 

[Galian Beast]

Isn't this a good number for the Cowboys, not Ware? If Bennett is only worth 8, then Ware would be worth like 7 tops.

You're more generous than I am.

 

[AbeBeta]

2.75 million is nice savings? No way...

It certainly is when it translates to reducing the cap hit substantially for the first couple of years given the spread of bonus money.

 

[Future]

You're more generous than I am.

I didn't say what he is worth to me lol

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I'd love for us to get Ware at 8 mill. Heck, even 9.5 mill would be a nice savings.

I did read that the Bears had offered closer to 9 mill a year on Bennett, so I expect that Ware's agent is all over that number.

Of course the issue here is going to be the guaranteed money. If Ware were willing to reduce to 8 mill a year over the next four, I think the team would definitely guaranteed 16 mill of that.

If it was my money I would say no but it's not my money.

 

[Galian Beast]

The part that you're all probably missing is that this is a 4 year deal that averages 8 million per year. That isn't to suggest that it is actually 8 million per year (though perhaps it is).

If we were to give Ware a deal first it would have to take into consideration his current bonus owed, which is 8.5 million. So you have to subtract that from the 32 million if you were looking to match the contract. That is 23.5 million over 4 years, of which you know most of it would need to be backloaded.

That is 5.875 million per year. And I'd probably say base salaries that look like

4 down from 12.25
5 down from 13.75
7 down from 13
8 down from 13

And that isn't taking into consideration any new signing bonus, which would lower those figures per year and spread throughout the 4 years. Though instead of signing bonus you may simply just gurantee the next two years.

My point is that dealing with his contract is really tricky, because you already have a contract, and you have an older player who is riddled with injuries.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That's not a ridiculous contract.

 

[gmoney112]

So Ware would be making 3/4 of all Bennett's guaranteed salary over 4 years in 2014.

Yeah. Definitely did not work out in Ware's favor.

 

[AbeBeta]

Isn't this a good number for the Cowboys, not Ware? If Bennett is only worth 8, then Ware would be worth like 7 tops.

Yes. Bennett had 2.5 more sacks than Ware last year. He has 23.5 career sacks, 17.5 of them over the past two years. Over the past two season, Demarcus has 17.5.

 

[Questfor6]

It's officially 4 yrs 28.5, even better leverage for the Cowboys

 

[Galian Beast]

It certainly is when it translates to reducing the cap hit substantially for the first couple of years given the spread of bonus money.

You could spread his bonus, and it still wouldn't have that large of an effect, especially going forward with larger caps... The Cowboys will want a much more significant pay cut than that.

 

[reddyuta]

Come on Ware! Don't be stupid.

yes,Ware is not going to get more than that.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

Ware will have 3.75M in existing signing bonus that will follow him with any new contract.

So his 2014 cap would be his NEW DEAL'S 2014 salary + the average of his signing bonus (if any) + 3.75M

So for example, a new 4 year, 32M deal with 12M signing bonus matching Bennett's, if say 2M were due for his base salary in 2014, would count 8.75M on the 2014 cap (2M base + 3M avg/year SB + 3.75M carryover from existing deal). This is a 7.25M savings v. the 16M he's currently scheduled to count as.