DE Tank Lawrence could get franchised again

gimmesix said:
Injury is certainly the one concern, but that concern exists to some extent with a long-term deal.

If someone with Martin's deal had a career-ending injury this summer, he'd cap out at $42 million (guaranteed plus 2018 base). The franchise tag for Lawrence this year would mean he'd cap out at $37 million plus no matter what.
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True but even a one year injury hurts bad if you are on the tag because many times coming off an injury you get a short term, not long term deal
 
Seems like whoever wrote this article is out of touch with Cowboys football. Dak n Amari aren't effecting DLaw's contract which is priority #1. Stephen is about saving money, so continuously franchising #90 is counterproductive. Now is the time to get a deal done, plus DAL has no leverage.
 
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Pure speculation... they will pay D Law and actually reduce his cap hit in doing so
 
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Transition tag is best for tank and us then can match the offer if we want to.
 
I love these opinion pieces that try to act like they’re fact ... sure he could franchised .. true ... he could get a long term deal .. also true ... he could be allowed to test free agent .. doubtful BUT true as an option ... heck he could retire and open a string of franchise restaurants ... I mean someone could say anything as HE COULD and if they’re wrong they can simply back pedal .. what a joke rumor media has become ... spaghetti reporting .. let’s see what sticks
 
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half this site is all speculation and spaghetti reports are referenced :)
 
conner01 said:
I had no problem with tag last year
You had health question a prior suspension and that’s protected the team and gave him the ability to prove himself
That’s the proper use of a tag. Now you pay him
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True but now price has risen like 20 mill!!!
 
He won't play under the tag again. He'll sit out and just make it up in 2020 with his fat FA contract.
 
Highly doubt we franchise him.

They're just throwing this out there because TECHNICALLY it is an option.

Also because trying to build up this "who's Dallas going to choose between?!" narrative with our cap is good media fodder.

We could pay DLaw, Dak, and Amari $30m a year and we'd still be $30m+ under in 2020 with no other moves.

The only way we franchise DLaw is if he actually wants Khalil Mack money. He'll probably get Vernon money and I'm sure he'll be happy.
 
lostar2009 said:
Could have payed half this man guarantee by now. 3 years in row he has produce. If you interested in someone else then get that person. But signing a productive FA cost more than in house talent. Every year the price go up. We could had DLaw cheaper going into 2018 than waiting for everyone to sign.
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This.

Plus he already said he won't play on the tag again.
 
conner01 said:
If you plan to extend Zeke it should be done now
The reason being age
You don’t want the guy getting the most carries every year being paid till he’s 30
Sign him now so the best years of his career are covered and you can get out at 28-29 yrs old
The odds of Zeke productive past 28 are slim
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I agree 100% on everything you said. We are using up Zeke at almost historic levels. I think Emmit was an anomaly most backs just can’t handle 320 carries a year. Emmit kind of had a way to avoid big hits. I don’t think it’s worth paying Zeke after his 5th year option. If we really wanted long term value at the 4th pick we should have taken Ramsey. I’m not restarting that discussion but unless something changes we can’t expect Zeke to be playing at the same level 3 years from now. We run too many 50 gut type plays. I can’t even imagine what a McVay or Payton would do with Zeke. He had 70 some catches and still didn’t feel he was properly deployed in the passing game.
I also stated this offseason in its own thread to sign Tank to a Vernon deal.
Just missed opportunities. Smart teams look 2-3 years ahead. I really think our front office has gotten smarter over the past 23 years. It’s not where it needs to be because of the gigantic ego of Jerry but that is a problem that cannot be corrected.
 
conner01 said:
If you plan to extend Zeke it should be done now
The reason being age
You don’t want the guy getting the most carries every year being paid till he’s 30
Sign him now so the best years of his career are covered and you can get out at 28-29 yrs old
The odds of Zeke productive past 28 are slim
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Why would you extend him now? As long as you extend him before the termination of his current contract, it's still the same amount of years.

Only reason you would extend him 2 years before you need to is money and to make him happy because the Rams had to go and lock up Gurley early and ruin it for everyone.
 
Jerry has indicated they would like to pay Tank, I see him getting paid.
 
gmoney112 said:
Why would you extend him now? As long as you extend him before the termination of his current contract, it's still the same amount of years.

Only reason you would extend him 2 years before you need to is money and to make him happy because the Rams had to go and lock up Gurley early and ruin it for everyone.
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A 5 yr deal now ends a year earlier than a 5 yr deal next year
You don’t want to be paying a 29 yr old RB who leads the league in carries every year
 
3 year deal or Franchise him again. He is a rich man, lets not feel too sorry for him. He should have enough $$ to never have to work another day in his life, can anyone else on this board say that without being and old f and not retired?
 
conner01 said:
A 5 yr deal now ends a year earlier than a 5 yr deal next year
You don’t want to be paying a 29 yr old RB who leads the league in carries every year
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Ah, I see what you mean.

This is a common misconception. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, we're on CZ so we like to know about what the team can actually do and while we're on contracts about our best players you may just want to know the details, a lot of people think an "extension" takes place immediately. An extension actually "extends" his years under contract. So, we'll probably pick up his 5th year, like the Rams did with Gurley, and then the extension we sign him to would begin in 2021. Just like Gurley's extension, it actually begins after the 5th year option they picked up. So he was under contract for 5 years, signed an extension going into year 4, he played year 4 under his rookie deal and will play 2019 under his 5th year option. His new contract actually begins in 2020. It was a 4 year deal that carries him until after the 2023 season (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023).

So, if we do it just like the Rams did with Gurley, Zeke would play 2019 under rookie contract, 2020 under 5th year. Then if we "extend" him for 4 years this offseason, it'd go from 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.

If we do it like Gurley's, that last year he'd be 29 and it'd be an easy out year with no guaranteed and no cap hit which would let us be able to release him after the season he plays while 28.

The advantage of an extension now really comes down to spreading the signing bonus, and making him happy of course. If you sign him this offseason, there's no signing bonus hitting the cap that last year of his extension so there's no cap hit if you release him. Extending him next offseason to the same Gurley type deal doesn't change the number of years we keep him, it'd probably just raise the price (since contracts keep going up) and it also means if we released him when he was 29 in that final year we'd still the cap hit from his signing bonus, which would be a $4-5 million hit or so that year.

The only way that changes is if they change the # of years on the extension, but Gurley got 4 and Zeke and his agent will want 4, and it's probably the best route to go while also being the path of least resistance.
 
glimmerman said:
I don’t have a problem with that and he won’t. He gets paid very well. If he wants a bigger contract long term he has to bend. Back surgery and now shoulder surgery can be a red flag.
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Fading in the back half of the season, two seasons in a row, is also a red flag.

Talented but not elite DE with injury history 3 years in a row. We're going to overpay him forever because we won't be willing to take the hit on the talent level on the dline for letting him go, while spending all that money is going to keep other talent off the roster, and playing him will keep other talent from developing.

Good player, but the money will always be bad and we're never going to stop spending it on him.
 
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