Deangelo Hall Traded To The Raiders

[GhettoxCowboy]

Yes, we all do and if we don't agree with you it doesn't make us less of a fan.

Get it yet?

Yes sir.. got it..

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

exactly! i'm sure they weren't complaining about those guys when we were winning trophies. now i know pacman is a touchy subject with what he's been involved with. me, personally i don't care. i don't care if he's shooting up strip clubs and i don't care if Roy Williams is doing church stuff. as long as they make plays for the cowboys and help us to win a superbowl i could care less what they do off the field.

Exatly, i feel the same way about that.. Hall and Pacman are good solid CB's..Hall is gone now, and now Jones is left. he has done many things in which, he already said he regrets doing. i believe people deserve a 2nd chance. Pacman woudl really help this team out.. Since jones and T.O are tight, i would think T.O would keep the guy on check in a way.

 

[dbair1967]

Russell is 20x better then Quinn will ever be though..

well there are reports he weighs in excess of 300lbs now, so you may be right

oh wait, you said better, not bigger

David

 

[tyke1doe]

no they just want boy scouts at every position. i want some bad boys cause this franchise has won 5 superbowls with a few bad boys on this team. they also usually bring a swagger and attitude that most boy scouts don't have.

We need to make a distinction between bay boys and criminals. And last I checked, the Cowboys may have won Super Bowls with bad boys on the team, but they didn't win any with criminals on the team. And, remember, Irvin won his titles as a bad boy. He didn't win any titles after his criminal proceedings.

 

[Hoofbite]

exactly! i'm sure they weren't complaining about those guys when we were winning trophies. now i know pacman is a touchy subject with what he's been involved with. me, personally i don't care. i don't care if he's shooting up strip clubs and i don't care if Roy Williams is doing church stuff. as long as they make plays for the cowboys and help us to win a superbowl i could care less what they do off the field.

Have you still not realized that what they do off the field has a very big impact on IF they even see the field.

Why is Pacman even a topic of discussion right now?

This isn't 1993 where you can run a drug ring out of the locker room and just be frowned at.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

well there are reports he weighs in excess of 300lbs now, so you may be right

oh wait, you said better, not bigger

David

Even at 300 lbs, hes still better then that pretty box tool box Quinn..

If the guy was so good why is he still holding the clipboard for the browns?

From what i know, russell already got the keys to the car in oakland!

 

[Hostile]

exactly! i'm sure they weren't complaining about those guys when we were winning trophies. now i know pacman is a touchy subject with what he's been involved with. me, personally i don't care. i don't care if he's shooting up strip clubs and i don't care if Roy Williams is doing church stuff. as long as they make plays for the cowboys and help us to win a superbowl i could care less what they do off the field.

When Tom Landry released Thomas Henderson I applauded. When he released Lance Rentzel I applauded. When he released Rafael Septien I applauded.

I appreciate Jerry Jones staying away from these kinds of guys for the most part. He did his homework on TO and he and Calvin Hill and Ray Sherman have made a huge difference in the man. So has Tony Romo.

There are no less than 5 kids in the Draft who I'd rather have than Pacman Jones and they have infinitely better character. I never supported Michael Irvin's actions and never will.

Boy Scouts? Yes, I'll take some like Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, Jay Novacek, Jason Witten, Marion Barber, DeMarcus Ware, etc. I'll take players like that who aren't going to be suspended at any given moment. You damn betcha I would.

Pacman really helped the Titans in 2007 huh? Actually he did. How? By not being there. I'd prefer we go that same route.

 

[Hoofbite]

Exatly, i feel the same way about that.. Hall and Pacman are good solid CB's..Hall is gone now, and now Jones is left. he has done many things in which, he already said he regrets doing. i believe people deserve a 12th chance. Pacman woudl really help this team out.. Since jones and T.O are tight, i would think T.O would keep the guy on check in a way.

There you go. Fixed that for you because thats probably close to where Pacman is.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

We need to make a distinction between bay boys and criminals. And last I checked, the Cowboys may have won Super Bowls with bad boys on the team, but they didn't win any with criminals on the team. And, remember, Irvin won his titles as a bad boy. He didn't win any titles after his criminal proceedings.

Criminals? so i guess since Pacman went to a strip club hes now a criminal? i never knew the guy killed somebody? when was this i missed it let me know? thanks

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

There you go. Fixed that for you because thats probably close to where Pacman is.

Whats gonna happen with you guys when Pacman ends up on the team? are you guys gonna stop watchin games, or maybe jump ships? just curious, cause that is comming soon.. !

 

[Hostile]

We need to make a distinction between bay boys and criminals. And last I checked, the Cowboys may have won Super Bowls with bad boys on the team, but they didn't win any with criminals on the team. And, remember, Irvin won his titles as a bad boy. He didn't win any titles after his criminal proceedings.

Actually Irvin didn't win any titles after his seedy side came out. Success went to his head and he was never the same.

 

[Hoofbite]

Criminals? so i guess since Pacman went to a strip club hes now a criminal? i never knew the guy killed somebody? when was this i missed it let me know? thanks

I knew someone was gonna start playing dumb in regards to Pacman.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

I knew someone was gonna start playing dumb in regards to Pacman.

:banjo:

 

[Hostile]

Criminals? so i guess since Pacman went to a strip club hes now a criminal? i never knew the guy killed somebody? when was this i missed it let me know? thanks

The only criminals in the world are killers?

LOL Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

 

[Hoofbite]

Whats gonna happen with you guys when Pacman ends up on the team? are you guys gonna stop watchin games, or maybe jump ships? just curious, cause that is comming soon.. !

Im gonna pray that jerry still drafts a CB in the 1st and still picks up another one somewhere else.

Im gonna pray that Jerry prepares for inevitable suspension or banning that Pacman will receive.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

Im gonna pray that jerry still drafts a CB in the 1st and still picks up another one somewhere else.

Im gonna pray that Jerry prepares for inevitable suspension or banning that Pacman will receive.

Even if we get Pacman, jerry is still gonna draft a CB don't know if in the 1st though.

 

[Stash]

"Hall is close to agreeing to a contract with the Raiders that will pay him just below what Asante Samuel signed with the Eagles, according to the source. Samuel signed a six-year deal worth a reported $57 million, with $20 million guaranteed"

Let me see if I get this straight.

The Raiders are giving up a high second round draft choice so they can pay Hall - an inferior corner to Samuel - about the same amount of money?

When they could have simply paid Samuel and kept the draft pick?

File this one next to all of the other 'great' moves Count Chocula has made this offseason.

The man is a menace......

:bang2:

 

[Vintage]

"Hall is close to agreeing to a contract with the Raiders that will pay him just below what Asante Samuel signed with the Eagles, according to the source. Samuel signed a six-year deal worth a reported $57 million, with $20 million guaranteed"

Let me see if I get this straight.

The Raiders are giving up a high second round draft choice so they can pay Hall - an inferior corner to Samuel - about the same amount of money?

When they could have simply paid Samuel and kept the draft pick?

File this one next to all of the other 'great' moves Count Chocula has made this offseason.

The man is a menace......

:bang2:

That ONLY works if Samuels wanted to go to Oakland. Maybe he didn't. Maybe Oakland tried.

Either way, you are starting to see the corner market getting set. Its going to take that kind of money to lock up Newman.

 

[Rampage]

When Tom Landry released Thomas Henderson I applauded. When he released Lance Rentzel I applauded. When he released Rafael Septien I applauded.

I appreciate Jerry Jones staying away from these kinds of guys for the most part. He did his homework on TO and he and Calvin Hill and Ray Sherman have made a huge difference in the man. So has Tony Romo.

There are no less than 5 kids in the Draft who I'd rather have than Pacman Jones and they have infinitely better character. I never supported Michael Irvin's actions and never will.

Boy Scouts? Yes, I'll take some like Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, Jay Novacek, Jason Witten, Marion Barber, DeMarcus Ware, etc. I'll take players like that who aren't going to be suspended at any given moment. You damn betcha I would.

Pacman really helped the Titans in 2007 huh? Actually he did. How? By not being there. I'd prefer we go that same route.

i think all that plays 2nd fiddle to the fact this was his last shot at a superbowl. no good team was gonna take the risk on him except us. we made it work. tank johnson did time and we took him in knowing with the commish we have now this was probably his last chance. we made it work. of all people pacman knows he has 1 last chance assuming he gets reinstated. now i could be wrong but i wanna believe he isn't dumb enough to let the opportunity he has get wasted once again. somebody noted earlier owens is his buddy and could show him the ropes around Dallas. not only does he want to play again but he wants to play for us. half the league would rather be a cowboy but we only got room for 53(i think ) and i would hope if pacman got his shot he wouldn't F up again.

 

[Hostile]

i think all that plays 2nd fiddle to the fact this was his last shot at a superbowl. no good team was gonna take the risk on him except us. we made it work. tank johnson did time and we took him in knowing with the commish we have now this was probably his last chance. we made it work. of all people pacman knows he has 1 last chance assuming he gets reinstated. now i could be wrong but i wanna believe he isn't dumb enough to let the opportunity he has get wasted once again. somebody noted earlier owens is his buddy and could show him the ropes around Dallas. not only does he want to play again but he wants to play for us. half the league would rather be a cowboy but we only got room for 53(i think ) and i would hope if pacman got his shot he wouldn't F up again.

Talk about revisionist History. John Blutarsky has nothing on you.

Pacman is so aware of his last chance that he admitted he went to a strip club the day he met with the Commissioner and has had 2 incidents in them while on suspension.

I'd like to see the evidence he gets it.