Dear Tony Romo...

trickblue;2294401 said:
I agree with you on him being average the last two weeks... but here is where we differ...

I think he IS is a great player... but not a great QB... it seems strange I know...

When he uses his feet he is great.. Romo as a pure pocket passer... not so great... he needs to get that out of his head...

He's not Brady... it doesn't mean he's not better than Brady... he just isn't Brady in the respect of a pocket passer...

He needs to go back to what got him into the Pro Bowl...

True, but I know alot of teams have made an effort to keep Tony Romo from getting outside of the pocket. Let's face it, once game planners have enough tape on you, they figure out tendencies and the best way to game plan around you.

Teams are starting to go back to the Buffalo Game of last year and employ that method to beat us. I have literally watched the Buffalo Game 2 weeks in a row, but we didn't have Tony Romo huge number of interceptions.

Personally, I have not seen Tony Romo digress, I think he is a better QB this year then last year. I just think teams have a pretty good formula in hand on how to combat the Cowboys.

The Tony Romo of a year ago would probably thrown alot more interceptions, imo.
 
theebs;2294342 said:
2 of those teams were miami and st.louis.

At the end of october I fully expect romos numbers to be magnificent.

Your correct...any cowboy fan knows that the competition has been harder this year...Romo is my favorite player it’s just frustrating to see him try and force a play or throw an incomplete pass when last year he would tuck the ball and be off picking up a few yards...I think his numbers will be better this year since I don't think he will have another buffalo game.
 
Maikeru-sama;2294429 said:
True, but I know alot of teams have made an effort to keep Tony Romo from getting outside of the pocket. Let's face it, once game planners have enough tape on you, they figure out tendencies and the best way to game plan around you.

Teams are starting to go back to the Buffalo Game of last year and employ that method to beat us. I have literally watched the Buffalo Game 2 weeks in a row, but we didn't have Tony Romo huge number of interceptions.

Personally, I have not seen Tony Romo digress, I think he is a better QB this year then last year. I just think teams have a pretty good formula in hand on how to combat the Cowboys.

The Tony Romo of a year ago would probably thrown alot more interceptions, imo.

I have seen him digress... and I respect your opinion greatly Mike... but he is digressing...

We aren't getting TO the touches he needs...

We aren't getting those Romo completions on the run...

He is NOT a pocket passer... his plays come on the run...

He needs to go back to his roots... he is not Brady...
 
trickblue;2294485 said:
I have seen him digress... and I respect your opinion greatly Mike... but he is digressing...

We aren't getting TO the touches he needs...

We aren't getting those Romo completions on the run...

He is NOT a pocket passer... his plays come on the run...

He needs to go back to his roots... he is not Brady...

Owens couldnt get open.

To Quote laufenberg, "Owens got ruffed up and checked out mentally". He was looking for a flag after every play.

Romo avoided pressure over and over tonight so I am not so sure why you are on this crucade today.
 
theebs;2294494 said:
Owens couldnt get open.

To Quote laufenberg, "Owens got ruffed up and checked out mentally". He was looking for a flag after every play.

Romo avoided pressure over and over tonight so I am not so sure why you are on this crucade today.

Been on this "crusade" for three weeks now... He isn't making the same decisions he did last year...

He did avoid pressure but instead of kicking out and making a play... he hung in the pocket and did nothing...
 
trickblue;2294534 said:
Been on this "crusade" for three weeks now... He isn't making the same decisions he did last year...

He did avoid pressure but instead of kicking out and making a play... he hung in the pocket and did nothing...

HUH?

Did you watch the drive before the half or out of the half or at the end of the game?

He was avoiding pressure and running all around and getting the ball down the field.
 
theebs;2294559 said:
HUH?

Did you watch the drive before the half or out of the half or at the end of the game?

He was avoiding pressure and running all around and getting the ball down the field.

HUH?

I watched the game... he was hanging in the pocket and getting the ball in late all day...

If you are saying this is the Romo of last year, you aren't watching the same games I am...
 
trickblue;2294566 said:
HUH?

I watched the game... he was hanging in the pocket and getting the ball in late all day...

If you are saying this is the Romo of last year, you aren't watching the same games I am...


Who said anything about last year. Romo is playing just fine. Why should he run out of the pocket if he doesnt have to, that makes absolutely zero sense.

The ball was coming out late today on occasion because his star players couldnt get open and ummm the skins got away with an inordinate amount of contact down the field. Crayton said after the game his jersey needed to be checked for prints because there was some criminal activity going on all day!!

The interception was horrible, as most are, he just stared at austin and threw it late. But thats ok.

He makes up for his mistakes two fold, which is alot more than alot of players can say on this team.
 
masomenos85;2294588 said:
Am I the only person who didn't think his INT was that bad?


You must be!!!

it was first down if I remember correctly and he just stared him down. PLus he didnt read the defense correctly.
 
theebs;2294591 said:
You must be!!!

it was first down if I remember correctly and he just stared him down. PLus he didnt read the defense correctly.

It was first down, but from watching the replay it really doesn't look like stares him down. He drops back and looks up field, waits a second, looks at Austin and fires. He did read the defense incorrectly, but that happens, sometimes you get away with it and sometimes you don't. Romo's bad INTs come when he forces something, the INT I saw today was just a regular INT. Yes it sucked and yes it hurt us but I don't think it was one of those "terrible" plays.
 
theebs;2294591 said:
You must be!!!

it was first down if I remember correctly and he just stared him down. PLus he didnt read the defense correctly.

It was to Miles Austin, right?

Oh wait-I thought they were trying to force the ball into *TO*?!? It's ALL TO'S FAULT, isn't it?!?:bang2:
 
Boysboy;2294614 said:
It was to Miles Austin, right?

Oh wait-I thought they were trying to force the ball into *TO*?!? It's ALL TO'S FAULT, isn't it?!?:bang2:

It's not TOs fault, but 20 targets to one player who isn't having a great game is not something that's helpful to the offense.
 
I also did not think Romo's interception was that bad. I can handle mistakes like that, because coaching can fix those. Its the impulse mistakes that kill me, because those are reflexes that up until this point have not been coached out of Romo.

Honestly, I am glad the Cowboys lost. One of the fun parts about being a fan is critiquing your team's while also wondering how they can improve. Winning 'em all is no fun for me. Of course, winning the big ones are enjoyable.
 
masomenos85;2294588 said:
It was first down, but from watching the replay it really doesn't look like stares him down. He drops back and looks up field, waits a second, looks at Austin and fires. He did read the defense incorrectly, but that happens, sometimes you get away with it and sometimes you don't. Romo's bad INTs come when he forces something, the INT I saw today was just a regular INT. Yes it sucked and yes it hurt us but I don't think it was one of those "terrible" plays.

I think Washington's defensive coordinator just completely outsmarted Garrett on that play. He knew Garret was going to attack the cornerback who has just be inserted into the game (even Troy predicted it was going to happen). It was a specifically called play to attack him. The Washington defensive coordinator disguised protection to him by sending the safety out to jump the route.

That's what I'm saying ... you get a one dimensional throwing offense, and things like that are going to happen. Without a running game to keep them honest, defensive coordinators are going to start anticipating your plays and defensive backs are going to start jumping your routes and interceptions are going to happen. One dimensional throwing offenses throw a lot of picks ... it doesn't matter if you're out of the pocket, in the pocket, etc. etc.

And another thing about being predictable ... TO not getting enough "touches that he needs' is nonsense. He's getting more touches than he needs, because it's getting predictable now. We have to force the ball to him to keep him from pouting (and he still pouts). We have to give him two rushes, while giving Felix zero, to keep him happy. We were forcing the ball to him when he simply wasn't getting open against Springs. Sorry TO ... it's about moving the entire offense effectively, not about you. If that means back to back weeks where you don't have statistically impressive games, so what.

If we're "forcing" anything on Romo, it's forcing him to only throw to his primary WR on plays when he's not getting much seperation. Romo is at his best when he's spreading the ball around the field and getting 6-7 different guys catches. TO had 18 targets today while Felix got zero, our 2nd TE's got nothing, Barber got nothing.
 
InmanRoshi;2294698 said:
I think Washington's defensive coordinator just completely outsmarted Garrett on that play. He knew Garret was going to attack the cornerback who has just be inserted into the game (even Troy predicted it was going to happen). It was a specifically called play to attack him. The Washington defensive coordinator disguised protection to him by sending the safety out to jump the route.

That's what I'm saying ... you get a one dimensional throwing offense, and things like that are going to happen. Without a running game to keep them honest, defensive coordinators are going to start anticipating your plays and defensive backs are going to start jumping your routes and interceptions are going to happen. One dimensional throwing offenses throw a lot of picks ... it doesn't matter if you're out of the pocket, in the pocket, etc. etc.

And another thing about being predictable ... TO not getting enough "touches that he needs' is nonsense. He's getting more touches than he needs, because it's getting predictable now. We have to force the ball to him to keep him from pouting (and he still pouts). We have to give him two rushes, while giving Felix zero, to keep him happy. We were forcing the ball to him when he simply wasn't getting open against Springs. Sorry TO ... it's about moving the entire offense effectively, not about you. If that means back to back weeks where you don't have statistically impressive games, so what.

If we're "forcing" anything on Romo, it's forcing him to only throw to his primary WR on plays when he's not getting much seperation. Romo is at his best when he's spreading the ball around the field and getting 6-7 different guys catches. TO had 18 targets today while Felix got zero, our 2nd TE's got nothing, Barber got nothing.
Bingo, bingo, and bingo again.

This game reminded me a lot of the Philly game at home last year. The passing game wasn't working because Romo was just having an off day... It happens. But instead of adjusting, RJ just kept throwing more. It's almost like was determined by sheer stubborness to keep doing the same thing until it worked.

Well, I thought the point of retaining Barber with millions of dollars, using a first round pick on another RB, and using a second on an athletic TE was to give us more options? Yet we seemed determined to keep focusing on the same few ones -- or one -- even though it wasn't working.
 
bbgun;2293078 said:
That pick was hideous, but I can think of ten guys (coaches?) who had worse days.

Yeah, that pick was disgusting. I actually thought I was looking at Hutch, Carter or Bledsoe throwing such a lame pass.

As bad as that was, Romo still made some plays and gave the team a chance at the end. I'd say that is doing his job. If the rest of the team starting at the top did that, Dallas would be a very tough team to keep up with.
 
theebs;2294137 said:
Man you guys are going to bag on romo.

Amazing.

It's not "bagging" on him. He can be a great quarterback. But he does turn the ball over at times -- more than he'd like, wouldn't you say? -- and he couldn't get the job done on three straight series in the third and fourth quarters, when we were down 20-17, 20-17 and 23-17. Either take away his interception or get us at least a field goal on one of those three crucial possessions, and we're probably 4-0. So, he deserves his share of the blame.



If hurd catches that onsides I have zero doubt he gets us in the endzone or at least in field goal position and we win the game.

That's probably true, as I've said in other posts today. But if Romo didn't have those three bad series in a row (one ending with that interception in oour territory), perhaps we don't need an onside kick.


Romo missed some throws today, he made a mistake on the int. ON the flip side, owens couldnt get open and he struggled to hang onto the ball, miles austin missed a blitz pickup and didnt cut his route shorter accordingly then austin also ran a poor route late in the game.

There are plenty of other players who deserve their share of the blame, too.


Romo had guys in his face alot today and he played well. Without a good defense and a good running game no quarterback wins.

Sure they do, if they play well enough. Look at last year's game against Washington in Dallas. The defense didn't play well, and we didn't run the ball well, but Romo (and Owens) had a much better day, and we won.
 
ThreeSportStar80;2293208 said:
I'd take Jason Campbell over Romo... He's 6'5 and has a rocket arm and is coming into his own.



You are certifiably insane.
 
theebs;2294591 said:
You must be!!!

it was first down if I remember correctly and he just stared him down. PLus he didnt read the defense correctly.

Two things I see, and no I have not read enough to see who stands where on my thoughts, but these two facts I think stand out:

1. Romo is not playing to what got him to where he is, and that is running out of the pocket and making plays happen on his own.

2. Owens is getting jammed and not getting open. Two games that has happened.

Romo, is you have listened and read all that was said about his improvements from year to year, has been programmed as most QBs are to calm down, make plays from the pocket and only take what the defense will give you.If nothing, throw it away. Interceptions will further push for the latter.

It is obvious Owens is not getting open. Do you watch the replays? we need to get our gameplan in touch with the reality of this, and design some workarounds.
 

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