Defense is going to have to carry us

[links18]

Carry us where exactly? To the draft?

 

[quickccc]

We all know the offense with Rush or any other backup QB will be compromised. Unlike Dak, which teams were taking away the pass by playing coverage, we are going to see the opposite, they will make the QB beat them through the air. I am fully expecting the run game to be opposing teams focus. Rush is going to need to make plays, but most importantly must protect the football at all costs and rely on both the defense/st's.

Yes, the defense has it's issues against TB, but were excellent in the red zone. This day in age, yards mean nothing, it's all about giving up FG's over TD's. Holding Brady and TB under 20 points was a success. They are going to have to carry this team until Dak returns, outside of this week and against the Rams, they do not play a top QB until Dak is expected to return.

“ Unlike Dak, which teams were taking away the pass by playing coverage, “ ……. I'm not sure what you’re trying to say with this, but Cooper Rush is/will always be comprised.
He’s so physically limited. Take away his initial move where he has to hold it and he gets jumpy and with his lack of mobility that’s a sack.
Coaches trust his savvy and familiarity of the offense, they know him upfront for some many years working with him, despite his physical limitations.

Kudos to Cooper in the Vikes win in ’21. But then Rush also had the likes of Cooper, Lamb and Cedrick Wilson who busted out big time in that Vikes game.
But with only a suspect CD Lamb to go to, and still issues in the OL unit and the constant, persistent drive killing penalties ..

Not only do I expect this is gonna be disastrous.
But I also expect at some point per desperation., journeyman type Wil Grier will eventually be pulled into the starting lineup for a possible spark.

If it was predictable with Dak who had limited weapons, what do you think it’s gonna be like with a physically limited Cooper who has limited weapons ?

Yikes.. !.............

 

[phildadon86]

We all know the offense with Rush or any other backup QB will be compromised. Unlike Dak, which teams were taking away the pass by playing coverage, we are going to see the opposite, they will make the QB beat them through the air. I am fully expecting the run game to be opposing teams focus. Rush is going to need to make plays, but most importantly must protect the football at all costs and rely on both the defense/st's.

Yes, the defense has it's issues against TB, but were excellent in the red zone. This day in age, yards mean nothing, it's all about giving up FG's over TD's. Holding Brady and TB under 20 points was a success. They are going to have to carry this team until Dak returns, outside of this week and against the Rams, they do not play a top QB until Dak is expected to return.

This defense better be in the gym working on their cardio because they are going to be on the field. A LOT!

 

[kskboys]

As long as anyone doesn't run the ball.

Next step is for Jerry to get a rule passed that limits the number of times a team can run the ball against us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[quickccc]

TB, Cincy and the Rams will all suppose to be difficult early matchups. Find a way to win 1 of the 3 and that's a success. Now the Giants, Commanders, Lions and even the Eagles are winnable games even with a backup QB. Can they win 2 games against these teams? If Dak returns with a record close to .500, there is a chance to compete this yr at least for the division.

I agree that despite a few breakdowns in secondary highlighted by Julio Jones vs Anthony Brown, and Diggs beaten for an Evans TD, .
and a run defense that continues to be suspect,

When you can still hold Brady to just one lone TD, and forced Bucs into several FGs instead of red zone TDs.

- The woes on offense,
- a very limited backup QB
- very limited WR options
- and the ongoing constant penalties (all on the offense vs Bucs?) that suggest this is not gonna be solved by this current coaching staff.

With this defense,
- I don’t think we’ve fixed our run defense woes, I think we have guys that get stuck to blocks vs run, and you have to be careful about tackling stats.
How many of those tackles were on the other side of the field and downfield ?

- And I still think this is a unit that can be fooled by misdirection and well designed pre-snap motion.

- I wasn’t impressed with the DTs vs Bucs, an injury depleted interior, but yet Fournette had a field day rushing, and Brady wasn’t disrupted by interior pressure.
I didn’t even notice Dante Fowler or Sam Williams, Golston is still JAG, and starting end Armstrong was very average, imo.
In fact, Bucs actually ran well and often to his very side of the line.


- I don’t think it’s a great, elite defense, still major holes with its' run defense, and i still think its' more of a downhill defense that plays it's best when they can be led by the offense,
but I still think it’s INT laden, with the likes of Diggs, Wilson, Lewis, and Hooker. and Cincy's Joe Burrow threw 4 INTs vs Steelers

- While I expect Cincy WR Javar Chase to torture Diggs and Brown, i do expect our DBs to have their share shot at INTs, like the Steelers did.
Burrow will give you those.

 

[Pass2Run]

We all know the offense with Rush or any other backup QB will be compromised. Unlike Dak, which teams were taking away the pass by playing coverage, we are going to see the opposite, they will make the QB beat them through the air. I am fully expecting the run game to be opposing teams focus. Rush is going to need to make plays, but most importantly must protect the football at all costs and rely on both the defense/st's.

Yes, the defense has it's issues against TB, but were excellent in the red zone. This day in age, yards mean nothing, it's all about giving up FG's over TD's. Holding Brady and TB under 20 points was a success. They are going to have to carry this team until Dak returns, outside of this week and against the Rams, they do not play a top QB until Dak is expected to return.

Had Moore just stuck with the run game, all the pre-snap reads the defense was getting on Dak wouldn't have been as much of a problem.

You can't win by getting cute. You win by sticking with the game plan and going with the hot hand.

 

[Bullflop]

It appears to be a good bet how this team's managerial efforts in any given year go to one side of the ball to the exclusion of the other. It often confounds me how management so often tends to do this. It reeks of being reactive to take that route. Seems very typical of this team's managerial tendencies.

 

[glimmerman]

yes that and better utilize Turpin and pollard in the pass game, first game those gadget plays were obviously out of sync with no real first team full speed reps in PS,. he should have waited to bring those out when the game was more in flow and players settling down. they literally were running into each other blocker not set it was off badly. again, first game

we have speed with Turpin and pollard and need to use it as weapon. Hats the issue

Turpin was doing great on kick returns. Why not use him on a shallow crossing route and get him the ball. Romo used to use our TE for those and get good yards. I look to see our Defense play better this week. I never saw Sam and Parsons coming after the QB. I would love to see us replace philibin now. We need to power run and block. And Moore…. Bro I am over him and the play calling. It’s the same every game. MM don’t pay attention enough to take over the play calling..

 

[Plankton]

I'd be a little worried that the defensive tackles got zero pass rush against a replacement center and guard, as well as a backup OT. Unless it was Micah Parsons, no one got near Brady in that game. The run defense is still bad, but it's not like the pass rush was taking names either.

 

[Daillest88]

It was a darn field goal game till the 4th… we were running the ball well at first but of course moore being Moore. Would of kept the defense fresh. Zeke was getting yards after contact which can wear down a defense pretty fast. Unreal. How dumb the offense side of coaching is. Plus Dak sucked too lol

 

[Cowboyny]

I agree that despite a few breakdowns in secondary highlighted by Julio Jones vs Anthony Brown, and Diggs beaten for an Evans TD, .
and a run defense that continues to be suspect,

When you can still hold Brady to just one lone TD, and forced Bucs into several FGs instead of red zone TDs.

- The woes on offense,
- a very limited backup QB
- very limited WR options
- and the ongoing constant penalties (all on the offense vs Bucs?) that suggest this is not gonna be solved by this current coaching staff.

With this defense,
- I don’t think we’ve fixed our run defense woes, I think we have guys that get stuck to blocks vs run, and you have to be careful about tackling stats.
How many of those tackles were on the other side of the field and downfield ?

- And I still think this is a unit that can be fooled by misdirection and well designed pre-snap motion.

- I wasn’t impressed with the DTs vs Bucs, an injury depleted interior, but yet Fournette had a field day rushing, and Brady wasn’t disrupted by interior pressure.
I didn’t even notice Dante Fowler or Sam Williams, Golston is still JAG, and starting end Armstrong was very average, imo.
In fact, Bucs actually ran well and often to his very side of the line.


- I don’t think it’s a great, elite defense, still major holes with its' run defense, and i still think its' more of a downhill defense that plays it's best when they can be led by the offense,
but I still think it’s INT laden, with the likes of Diggs, Wilson, Lewis, and Hooker. and Cincy's Joe Burrow threw 4 INTs vs Steelers

- While I expect Cincy WR Javar Chase to torture Diggs and Brown, i do expect our DBs to have their share shot at INTs, like the Steelers did.
Burrow will give you those.

-Did you hear Quinn's press conference? He mentioned that all the big chunk run plays occurred due to lack of outside containment from the DE. Said it was very fixable. I guessing this didn't happen against DLaw, but more so the RE position. The guys mentioned were the problem more so then the interior against the run.

-The Bengals OL had their struggles against Pittsburgh, let's see if the Cowboys can have some success against them.

-You would think the Cowboy Offense becomes more conservative, run based without Dak. Cooper has to protect the football at all costs and score points when there is an opportunity to do so. TB is one of the best run defenses in the entire league, let's see how this OL can perform against the lesser teams in that department.

 

[xwalker]

Yes they held TB to 4 FG's before a worn down D gave up a TD. Well, Micah finally got a few sacks. Wilson got an INT on a poor decision by Brady, but that happens to the best of them at times.
Where was DLaw, he didn't even have any...I almost got there moments....
Was part of it for not playing any in the preseason, stamina not there, possibly.

Maybe they get better, as usual give it 3 or 4 games to gel. But if the offense can't do their part, will it matter?
I am not up nor down on the defense after the 1st game.

Offense, Kellen Moore screw up as usual on that 1st drive. The game could have unfolded differently if they score a TD.

DLaw only played 60% of the snaps which is low for him when healthy.

 

[visionary]

0-10 is the only glimmer of hope

 

[glimmerman]

Had Moore just stuck with the run game, all the pre-snap reads the defense was getting on Dak wouldn't have been as much of a problem.

You can't win by getting cute. You win by sticking with the game plan and going with the hot hand.

So many wasted drives. Could have tried one with 2 runs and a screen or dump off. If it works then good. But a run for 5 yards and then a incomplete pass for 20 yards and have to come back with a 3rd and 5 and pass again. Seems like the game plan.

 

[glimmerman]

DLaw only played 60% of the snaps which is low for him when healthy.

Was Sam Williams there.