Defensive Scheme of the Future

[xwalker]

I'm going to use player "type" examples to illustrate the style of defense that I would prefer to use.

• Snacks: Meaning the 2016 version of Snacks Harrison.
• Aldon Smith: A younger but similar style player. I could have said Randy Gregory.
• Trevon Diggs: A more experienced version. Big physical CB with excellent quickness. Does not require uber deep speed.
• General Concept
  • Stop the Run.
  • Don't give up deep passes.
  • Use the "ILBs" equally as pass rushers to the Stand-Up DEs.
  • Envision Aldon Smith lined up outside the OT and another Aldon Smith lined up inside the OT.
  • One rushes and one drops back or both rush with the pair on the other side dropping back.
  • Lack of pass rushing DTs offset by using the ILBs a pass rushers.
  • When in coverage, the LBs and Stand-Up DEs would play zone.
  • With the extra large front 6, play Nickel even as the base defense.
  • The 5 CBs offset the lack of coverage ability from having the oversized ILBs.
• Weak Spot:
  • All schemes have a weak spot.
  • This one: Intermediate Passes in front of the deep "Safeties" and behind the CBs.
• Trade-Offs:
  • Get more sacks and hits on the QB but give up some intermediate passes.
• Comparison
  • The problem with normal 2-deep coverage is that the Safeties make the decision to play up or back on each snap.
  • That often puts the outside CBs in man coverage with no deep help if the Safety on that side plays up.
  • In this defense the deep Safeties always stay behind the CBs.
  • The big CBs can come up against the run because they can pass off coverage to the deep "Safeties".

 

[Kaiser]

It won't happen until they have an offseason to put it in place, but I love the 5-2 or 4-1-2 set with DLaw, Griffen, Hill and Gallimore on the line, Aldon Smith in his role and LVE & Jaylon at the true LB spots.

Spend high picks on on the secondary and you have a ton of talent on the field along with the practice time to actually execute the scheme.

 

[charron]

I'm going to use player "type" examples to illustrate the style of defense that I would prefer to use.

• Snacks: Meaning the 2016 version of Snacks Harrison.
• Aldon Smith: A younger but similar style player. I could have said Randy Gregory.
• Trevon Diggs: A more experienced version. Big physical CB with excellent quickness. Does not require uber deep speed.
• General Concept
  • Stop the Run.
  • Don't give up deep passes.
  • Use the "ILBs" equally as pass rushers to the Stand-Up DEs.
  • Envision Aldon Smith lined up outside the OT and another Aldon Smith lined up inside the OT.
  • One rushes and one drops back or both rush with the pair on the other side dropping back.
  • Lack of pass rushing DTs offset by using the ILBs a pass rushers.
  • When in coverage, the LBs and Stand-Up DEs would play zone.
  • With the extra large front 6, play Nickel even as the base defense.
  • The 5 CBs offset the lack of coverage ability from having the oversized ILBs.
• Weak Spot:
  • All schemes have a weak spot.
  • This one: Intermediate Passes in front of the deep "Safeties" and behind the CBs.
• Trade-Offs:
  • Get more sacks and hits on the QB but give up some intermediate passes.
• Comparison
  • The problem with normal 2-deep coverage is that the Safeties make the decision to play up or back on each snap.
  • That often puts the outside CBs in man coverage with no deep help if the Safety on that side plays up.
  • In this defense the deep Safeties always stay behind the CBs.
  • The big CBs can come up against the run because they can pass off coverage to the deep "Safeties".

Can't do this untill your best players are DB's. If you are going to play alot of man your CB's had better hold up.

 

[buybuydandavis]

It won't happen until they have an offseason to put it in place, but I love the 5-2 or 4-1-2 set with DLaw, Griffen, Hill and Gallimore on the line, Aldon Smith in his role and LVE & Jaylon at the true LB spots.

I'd like that more with any warm body over Jaylon. Certainly Thomas and Lee.

Gregory can be added to that soon. I'd play him over Griffen or Lawrence.

 

[CWR]

It won't happen until they have an offseason to put it in place, but I love the 5-2 or 4-1-2 set with DLaw, Griffen, Hill and Gallimore on the line, Aldon Smith in his role and LVE & Jaylon at the true LB spots.

Spend high picks on on the secondary and you have a ton of talent on the field along with the practice time to actually execute the scheme.

Bad thing is Aldon and Griffin are both 1 year deals I think. Its always cool to hit on guys like that, but it sucks knowing they probably walk next off season.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

It won't happen until they have an offseason to put it in place, but I love the 5-2 or 4-1-2 set with DLaw, Griffen, Hill and Gallimore on the line, Aldon Smith in his role and LVE & Jaylon at the true LB spots.

You love those sets?
They have worked do well.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I'm going to use player "type" examples to illustrate the style of defense that I would prefer to use.

• Snacks: Meaning the 2016 version of Snacks Harrison.
• Aldon Smith: A younger but similar style player. I could have said Randy Gregory.
• Trevon Diggs: A more experienced version. Big physical CB with excellent quickness. Does not require uber deep speed.
• General Concept
  • Stop the Run.
  • Don't give up deep passes.
  • Use the "ILBs" equally as pass rushers to the Stand-Up DEs.
  • Envision Aldon Smith lined up outside the OT and another Aldon Smith lined up inside the OT.
  • One rushes and one drops back or both rush with the pair on the other side dropping back.
  • Lack of pass rushing DTs offset by using the ILBs a pass rushers.
  • When in coverage, the LBs and Stand-Up DEs would play zone.
  • With the extra large front 6, play Nickel even as the base defense.
  • The 5 CBs offset the lack of coverage ability from having the oversized ILBs.
• Weak Spot:
  • All schemes have a weak spot.
  • This one: Intermediate Passes in front of the deep "Safeties" and behind the CBs.
• Trade-Offs:
  • Get more sacks and hits on the QB but give up some intermediate passes.
• Comparison
  • The problem with normal 2-deep coverage is that the Safeties make the decision to play up or back on each snap.
  • That often puts the outside CBs in man coverage with no deep help if the Safety on that side plays up.
  • In this defense the deep Safeties always stay behind the CBs.
  • The big CBs can come up against the run because they can pass off coverage to the deep "Safeties".

Awww!
You started drinking again, you alky.

 

[fivetwos]

I'm going to use player "type" examples to illustrate the style of defense that I would prefer to use.

• Snacks: Meaning the 2016 version of Snacks Harrison.
• Aldon Smith: A younger but similar style player. I could have said Randy Gregory.
• Trevon Diggs: A more experienced version. Big physical CB with excellent quickness. Does not require uber deep speed.
• General Concept
  • Stop the Run.
  • Don't give up deep passes.
  • Use the "ILBs" equally as pass rushers to the Stand-Up DEs.
  • Envision Aldon Smith lined up outside the OT and another Aldon Smith lined up inside the OT.
  • One rushes and one drops back or both rush with the pair on the other side dropping back.
  • Lack of pass rushing DTs offset by using the ILBs a pass rushers.
  • When in coverage, the LBs and Stand-Up DEs would play zone.
  • With the extra large front 6, play Nickel even as the base defense.
  • The 5 CBs offset the lack of coverage ability from having the oversized ILBs.
• Weak Spot:
  • All schemes have a weak spot.
  • This one: Intermediate Passes in front of the deep "Safeties" and behind the CBs.
• Trade-Offs:
  • Get more sacks and hits on the QB but give up some intermediate passes.
• Comparison
  • The problem with normal 2-deep coverage is that the Safeties make the decision to play up or back on each snap.
  • That often puts the outside CBs in man coverage with no deep help if the Safety on that side plays up.
  • In this defense the deep Safeties always stay behind the CBs.
  • The big CBs can come up against the run because they can pass off coverage to the deep "Safeties".

So far they have "weak spot" covered.

 

[xwalker]

Can't do this untill your best players are DB's. If you are going to play alot of man your CB's had better hold up.

It is man under or zone.

Man under is basically zone, expect the CBs can play press on the WR to eliminate the quick underneath passes that zone tends to give up.

The deep Safeties pick up coverage after 10 yards (approximately and the distance would vary based on the defensive call).

One of the primary concepts that the 2 deep players don't have to come up against the run until the point it is obviously a run and then they're just the Safety net.

The front 6 has to stop the run with just outside run help from the DBs.

 

[charron]

It is man under or zone.

Man under is basically zone, expect the CBs can play press on the WR to eliminate the quick underneath passes that zone tends to give up.

The deep Safeties pick up coverage after 10 yards (approximately and the distance would vary based on the defensive call).

One of the primary concepts that the 2 deep players don't have to come up against the run until the point it is obviously a run and then they're just the Safety net.

The front 6 has to stop the run with just outside run help from the DBs.

I'm down. But I don't trust our CB's or safeties. In today's league I think we need to invest/pay for better corners so we can play more press man coverage.