DeMarcus Ware, 8 sacks his rookie year, when is last time we had a rookie do that?

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Amidst the gloom, thought I'd bring up some good news.

With his sack against the Rams, Ware finished the year with 8 sacks! :bow:

When is the last time we had a rookie collect that many sacks? Maybe some of you trivia experts can let me know.

Maybe I'm forgetting someone obvious, but I can't think of anyone, and I think you might have to go back to the players who started when they didn't collect the sack stat before you find a rookie who punished QBs as much as Ware.
 

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TBC, didn't catch the game. Did he beat Pace for his sack or was it against another Ram lineman?
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Amidst the gloom, thought I'd bring up some good news.

With his sack against the Rams, Ware finished the year with 8 sacks! :bow:

When is the last time we had a rookie collect that many sacks? Maybe some of you trivia experts can let me know.

Maybe I'm forgetting someone obvious, but I can't think of anyone, and I think you might have to go back to the players who started when they didn't collect the sack stat before you find a rookie who punished QBs as much as Ware.

I cannot wait for next year just to watch this guy play with a years worth of off season conditioning under his belt! What a great draft pick for us!!
 

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Shuttemdown41 said:
TBC, didn't catch the game. Did he beat Pace for his sack or was it against another Ram lineman?

He didn't really beat anyone, just ran Martin down on a roll out.
 

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He didn't really beat anyone, just ran Martin down on a roll out.
He put alex barron on his arse. Absolutely embarrassed him. He also had like 4 or 5 pressures, he was in Martins face all day.
 

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I cannot wait for next year just to watch this guy play with a years worth of off season conditioning under his belt! What a great draft pick for us!!

Like others have written, I think when it comes down to Merriman vs. Ware, I think we got the better guy in the long run, they got the better guy in the short run.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Like others have written, I think when it comes down to Merriman vs. Ware, I think we got the better guy in the long run, they got the better guy in the short run.
If Ware didn't have to play the run or drop in to coverage like Merriman he'd be going to Hawaii also. I'm happy with our choice.
 

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Ware is like a fine wine he will improve with age.
 

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He spent half the season learning a new position. Now he needs to learn some new moves. He has the one thing you can't teach - speed. Add it all up, next year he could really be something. Great selection.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Like others have written, I think when it comes down to Merriman vs. Ware, I think we got the better guy in the long run, they got the better guy in the short run.

How many sacks and tackles did Merriman get this year...Was it that much better than Ware ?

Looks like Ware dissappeared for the middle of the season...Hot at the beginning and the end...What happened in the middle of the year ?
 

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Shuttemdown41 said:
TBC, didn't catch the game. Did he beat Pace for his sack or was it against another Ram lineman?

On his sack, he knocked Alex Barron to the ground (rather than speed-rushing around him, which was nice to see), then caught Martin scrambling to the sideline.

There was also another play when he drove Orlando Pace six yards into the pocket before laying a hit on Martin and the commentators raved about how not very many guys could take Orlando Pace all the way back to the QB.
 

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Jarv said:
How many sacks and tackles did Merriman get this year...Was it that much better than Ware ?

Looks like Ware dissappeared for the middle of the season...Hot at the beginning and the end...What happened in the middle of the year ?

Ware was better in every category except stats and merriman beat him by 2, unless you wanna count pass deflections where ware had 1 and merriman had 4

ware had 58 tackles(47 solo, 11 assisted)
merriman had 57(43 solo, 14 assisted)
 

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http://img487.*************/img487/2267/94vs564ip.jpg
i dont understand how people can say that merriman is so much better
 

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DeWare94 said:
http://img487.*************/img487/2267/94vs564ip.jpg
i dont understand how people can say that merriman is so much better


More forced fumbles and STF ? Is STF stops for loss ?

If STF is stops for loss, then Ware had 18 plays for negative yards (8 sacks, 10 stops for loss) vs 10 sacks and 5 stops for loss...15 negative plays.

I really like Ware and think he has a great future for us.
 

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Honestly we could continue to beat this horse to death. The bottom line is that both teams got good players and Ware has given us play making at that position that we haven't had since Haley.
 

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Jarv said:
More forced fumbles and STF ? Is STF stops for loss ?

If STF is stops for loss, then Ware had 18 plays for negative yards (8 sacks, 10 stops for loss) vs 10 sacks and 5 stops for loss...15 negative plays.

I really like Ware and think he has a great future for us.
Yes, and STFY is the yardage.
 

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i looked at espn's key and it said STF means stuffs(tackles for a loss) and STFY means stuff yards
 

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And don't forget Cowboys played basic vanilla 3-4 scheme in this first year. Next year Parcells will add more complicated systems, etc. He already said in TC and later in season that he can't add to much in first year cause it would overload them, but next year is different. That's why I want Parcells back. If he doesn't we will regress and who knows what system a new HC brings it; we might even get stuck with Zimmer as HC.
 

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the only thing that bothers me is the age factor. why do we keep drafting the oldest rookies out there? other than that, i'm happy with who we got.
 
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