Denver forum talking a lot of trash

[BrAinPaiNt]

then leave not a single cowboys fan has given me a legit reason on how dallas is going to win

I yet to see you two Denver fans give me a legit reason why the broncos will win.

next

 

[DallasCowpoke]

I've literally been cringing throughout this entire thread...

Eye hear ya.

 

[tomson75]

then leave not a single cowboys fan has given me a legit reason on how dallas is going to win

Here's one.

We're a better football team than you are.

Come back in five days to take your meds kiddo.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

then leave not a single cowboys fan has given me a legit reason on how dallas is going to win

Ummm, scoring more?? Just my guess and all.

 

[crash123go]

Here's one.

We're a better football team than you are.

Come back in five days to take your meds kiddo.

thats not a reason, here is a couple.
1. your gonna get zero pressure on orton, dallas faces the best o-line in the league
2. ratliff isn't going to anything, he is going up against our all pro center who specializes in NT
3.the best defensive backfield in the league is waiting for roy williams and jason witten

 

[Hypnotoad]

the dallas cowboys have better players. they will run on denver. they will pass on denver. they will beat denver.

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[jwitten82]

thats not a reason, here is a couple.
1. your gonna get zero pressure on orton, dallas faces the best o-line in the league
2. ratliff isn't going to anything, he is going up against our all pro center who specializes in NT
3.the best defensive backfield in the league is waiting for roy williams and jason witten

Again, what makes you think this?

 

[WoodysGirl]

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:laugh2:

 

[Rogah]

What makes you think yall have the best O-line in the league?

It's a Broncos fan syndrome. 12 years ago during their glory years (which began in 1997 and ended in 1998) they had a small but talented offensive line which arguably was indeed among the best in the league.

They've held on to that reputation - which by now really is merely reputation - all that time.

 

[Hostile]

Eye hear ya.

Don't you mean "eye here ewe?"

 

[Dcowboy84]

then leave not a single cowboys fan has given me a legit reason on how dallas is going to win

where's your legit reason why the donkeys will beat us?

all i've seen is all this talk about the altitude and how you've "beaten" a team that beat GB and Pitt...and how Dawkins is gonna lay people out.

if you want to come to a Cowboy board and talk about the game, how about trying to come up with legitimate scenarios where you think there is an advantage for your team, or where you think there will be good battles, or what you think is the pros and cons for your team when you face ours....

don't give me any of these petty reasons why we're so overrated and Denver is so great. i'd put money down that you were banging your head to the wall during the preseason and all the baby TO drama and think you're all high and mighty now that Quinn and Russell couldn't beat you. i'm sorry but a team that has a 2nd half passing total of under 5 YARDS is not a measuring stick.

now why don't you try an argument/discussion more like this:

in my opinion, Denver has not had to go up against a running attack of our caliber yet, so i would hope we could have more success this week pounding the line of scrimmage with our running game.

i think the CB position is a little weaker this year than in years past so we should try to exploit them in with some double moves and quick screens.

the altitude is worrisome so i hope we remembered what it was like being up there in preseason last year and try to adjust.

we need to scheme for Dumervil b/c although he is small he has proven himself to be a legitimate pass rush threat, maybe not the calibur of the high end rushers, but still can cause problems.

the Denver o-line is smaller, but quick, so our D-line really needs to hold the point of attack and out muscle them, and that should help us to contain their running game.

if we can approach pass defense similar to how we approached Carolina i have confidence that we should stand our ground against Orton. he's been inconsistent in his career and he could grow overconfident after his success thus far.


now you see? i'm not bashing the Broncos, and i'm not claiming that Dallas is hugely dominant. i'm just laying out my opinion and where i think some good matchups should come from the perspective of Dallas' side.

 

[crash123go]

Again, what makes you think this?

facts. ware is going up against the best left tackle in the league ryan clady played every game in 2008 .5 of a sack, we have the best right gaurd in the league kris kuper, 2008 stats played every game 0 sacks, right tackle ryan harris played every game in 2008 1 sack

 

[hardcorebob]

It's a Broncos fan syndrome. 12 years ago during their glory years (which began in 1997 and ended in 1998) they had a small but talented offensive line which arguably was indeed among the best in the league.

They've held on to that reputation - which by now really is merely reputation - all that time.

Lets be real clear on this subject. Basically they were known for illegal chop blocks and for injuring defensive players, not for being a truly talented OL.

 

[tomson75]

thats not a reason, here is a couple.
1. your gonna get zero pressure on orton, dallas faces the best o-line in the league
2. ratliff isn't going to anything, he is going up against our all pro center who specializes in NT
3.the best defensive backfield in the league is waiting for roy williams and jason witten

Oh wow...first of all....the first two are essentially the same damn thing. Second..."a couple" is two. You listed three...and yet you were ironically right by saying a couple, because the first two are the same damn thing. Third, you should ask Brian Dawkins if he underestimates Jason Witten as much as you do. Somehow I doubt it.

You better hope your team isn't as outgunned on sunday as YOU are today...and I would assume every other day...or it's going to be a **** show in Denver.

 

[crash123go]

where's your legit reason why the donkeys will beat us?

all i've seen is all this talk about the altitude and how you've "beaten" a team that beat GB and Pitt...and how Dawkins is gonna lay people out.

if you want to come to a Cowboy board and talk about the game, how about trying to come up with legitimate scenarios where you think there is an advantage for your team, or where you think there will be good battles, or what you think is the pros and cons for your team when you face ours....

don't give me any of these petty reasons why we're so overrated and Denver is so great. i'd put money down that you were banging your head to the wall during the preseason and all the baby TO drama and think you're all high and mighty now that Quinn and Russell couldn't beat you. i'm sorry but a team that has a 2nd half passing total of under 5 YARDS is not a measuring stick.

now why don't you try an argument/discussion more like this:

in my opinion, Denver has not had to go up against a running attack of our caliber yet, so i would hope we could have more success this week pounding the line of scrimmage with our running game.

i think the CB position is a little weaker this year than in years past so we should try to exploit them in with some double moves and quick screens.

the altitude is worrisome so i hope we remembered what it was like being up there in preseason last year and try to adjust.

we need to scheme for Dumervil b/c although he is small he has proven himself to be a legitimate pass rush threat, maybe not the calibur of the high end rushers, but still can cause problems.

the Denver o-line is smaller, but quick, so our D-line really needs to hold the point of attack and out muscle them, and that should help us to contain their running game.

if we can approach pass defense similar to how we approached Carolina i have confidence that we should stand our ground against Orton. he's been inconsistent in his career and he could grow overconfident after his success thus far.


now you see? i'm not bashing the Broncos, and i'm not claiming that Dallas is hugely dominant. i'm just laying out my opinion and where i think some good matchups should come from the perspective of Dallas' side.

the pass rush is nothing of what is was last year, dallas only has three sacks. the size of the d doesn't worry me either ratliff is undersized at the nose so wiegmann should be able to take him by himself. ware wont get past clady cause no one gets past clady. the raider d is bigger then dallas and we put 215 yards on the ground

 

[Dcowboy84]

facts. ware is going up against the best left tackle in the league ryan clady played every game in 2008 .5 of a sack, we have the best right gaurd in the league kris kuper, 2008 stats played every game 0 sacks, right tackle ryan harris played every game in 2008 1 sack

i respect you bringing up these stats, but as you said these are 08 stats, which means Cutler was the QB. what are there stats so far this year?

and additionally, how about a breakdown of running plays to one side vs the other and running behind certain players?

sack totals given up are not the only way to judge an o-lines performance.

and you mention the "best LT, and best RG, and all-pro center". don't you also need to access who all they played against and what the higher caliber players they faced did against them?

i'm not trying to tell you that you're wrong, but you need to bring more to the table.

 

[jwitten82]

facts. ware is going up against the best left tackle in the league ryan clady played every game in 2008 .5 of a sack, we have the best right gaurd in the league kris kuper, 2008 stats played every game 0 sacks, right tackle ryan harris played every game in 2008 1 sack

Fact. What they did last season doesn't matter, because if it did you should really be worried since we led the league in sacks last season.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

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:laugh2:

Nice Woody Paige line, too.

 

[EPL0c0]

my friend (a broncos fan) and I are going up to the game this weekend.

He's not a trash talker but he did joke about how nice it is to be going into the game 3-0 haha

 

[zeroburrito]

Oh wow...first of all....the first two are essentially the same damn thing. Second..."a couple" is two. You listed three...and yet you were ironically right by saying a couple, because the first two are the same damn thing. Third, you should ask Brian Dawkins if he underestimates Jason Witten as much as you do. Somehow I doubt it.

You better hope your team isn't as outgunned on sunday as YOU are today...and I would assume every other day...or it's going to be a **** show in Denver.

as an adjective it can mean any small number.