DeSean Jackson

stasheroo;4249560 said:
I would agree with you that I doubt he ever gets an extension from the Eagles. I think this is his last year in Philadelphia.

And I don't disagree that he's a selfish guy who looks out for himself first and foremost.

That said, I think that - much like the Terrell Owens situation - that the Eagles handling of the situation contributed to the problem.



I think they missed him badly this past Sunday - on offense and special teams and I think that they will miss his on-field contributions when he's gone.

The Eagles offense - Maclin included - isn't the same without Jackson's speed element forcing defenses to cover the entire field.

Eh, i think alot of people are simply taking the easy way out by simply saying, "Look! The Eagles didn't have Jackson for one game and they struggled!"

Apparently, Vick had broken ribs from the first quarter on and missed alot of open receivers that game, also their offensive line couldn't block anyone. There were alot of reasons the Eagles offense struggled that had nothing to do with Jackson. They've been without him before and have played well.

Without him, they still have Maclin, who is a great deep threat himself, but can also run all routes and isn't afraid to go over the middle, and they also have Avant as a good slot option with Celek, Shady, and Vick. So they have plenty of weapons on offense without him.

..and im not sure what you make of the information i just told you, but those things he was doing last year have nothing to do with the Eagles organization, they didn't make him do any of that stuff, and most of it is far worse than anything i've heard about Dez, yet he gets blasted by the media.
 
RoyTheHammer;4249570 said:
Eh, i think alot of people are simply taking the easy way out by simply saying, "Look! The Eagles didn't have Jackson for one game and they struggled!"

Would you tell that to Rodgers-Cromartie who got hurt while filling in for Jackson returning a punt?

Apparently, Vick had broken ribs from the first quarter on and missed alot of open receivers that game

Several opinions - including Lesean McCoy's, differ on when Vick was injured.

also their offensive line couldn't block anyone. There were alot of reasons the Eagles offense struggled that had nothing to do with Jackson. They've been without him before and have played well.

Heck, they haven't played well this year with him. But that doesn;t negate what he's done thus far in his career.

Without him, they still have Maclin, who is a great deep threat himself, but can also run all routes and isn't afraid to go over the middle, and they also have Avant as a good slot option with Celek, Shady, and Vick. So they have plenty of weapons on offense without him.

I'll counter that by saying that all of those weapons wouldn't be what they are without Jackson's deep speed threat. I'll take him in a footrace against Maclin every day of the week.

..and im not sure what you make of the information i just told you, but those things he was doing last year have nothing to do with the Eagles organization, they didn't make him do any of that stuff, and most of it is far worse than anything i've heard about Dez, yet he gets blasted by the media.

Not that I advocate players dictating what they will or will not do, but in this case, I agree with Jackson's position. He's a small guy who will simply not hold up to the pounding of going across the middle, and it's stupid of the team to put him at risk asking him to do that. He's already suffered a serious injury or two when they've sent him across the middle before.
 
juck;4244563 said:
Desean jackson is way better then Miles. He would be an instant 2nd to Dez.

Wow, that's the first time that phrase has ever been uttered by anybody anywhere. Even Desean isn't stupid enough to think he's better than Miles. I think you're just yanking our chain.
 
stasheroo;4249596 said:
Several opinions - including Lesean McCoy's, differ on when Vick was injured.

Heck, they haven't played well this year with him. But that doesn;t negate what he's done thus far in his career.

I'll counter that by saying that all of those weapons wouldn't be what they are without Jackson's deep speed threat. I'll take him in a footrace against Maclin every day of the week.

Not that I advocate players dictating what they will or will not do, but in this case, I agree with Jackson's position. He's a small guy who will simply not hold up to the pounding of going across the middle, and it's stupid of the team to put him at risk asking him to do that. He's already suffered a serious injury or two when they've sent him across the middle before.

Its nothing more than a huge assumption to say that none of the Eagles other options would be as good without Jackson.. and frankly i think its just baloney. Vick is proven, Shady is a top 5 running back in the league, and Maclin is a more complete receiver than Jackson. Also, as i already said, they've done well in games where Jackson was injured before.. so they've shown they can play without him. Also, when Vick was injured (although most believe it was early on in the game) doesn't even matter, as the point was that he missed several wide open targets throughout the game. The point there being, guys were still getting open plenty without Jackson, Vick just had an off day (probably because he was playing with broken ribs half the game).

Now, as to your last point, saying that Jackson is right to tell the team that he shouldn't have to run routes over the middle or return punts.. that's just one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard anyone say on here. You're a professional, being paid to play a game.. and you think you're more special than any other wide receiver who's ever played to tell your coaches and the people paying your salary that you shouldn't have to run certain routes or risk getting hurt?

Please dude.. you lost me right there. Its not stupid at all.. know why? Because if you run go patterns all day and that's it, teams will catch on relativly quickly. Keep a safety over the top.. and no more DeSean Jackson threat.. hence his numbers this year. I'll take Maclin anyday of the week over Jackson. He's more productive, more consistent, and simply a better all around WR threat.
 
stasheroo;4249560 said:
The Eagles offense - Maclin included - isn't the same without Jackson's speed element forcing defenses to cover the entire field.

He gets all the attention from the defense. Nobody stays up at night scheming to stop Jeremy Maclin. It's Jackson and his elite deep speed that makes that offense go.

People want to blame their offensive line. Their line was bad last year. Vick's the same QB. The problem is they no longer have their alpha WR with his head in the game.

They screwed around with paying him. Probably because of his size. So he announces before the season that his first priority was to stay healthy. That was a bad situation waiting to happen. He's been sleepwalking through the season waiting to get paid.
 
Risen Star;4249781 said:
He gets all the attention from the defense. Nobody stays up at night scheming to stop Jeremy Maclin. It's Jackson and his elite deep speed that makes that offense go.

People want to blame their offensive line. Their line was bad last year. Vick's the same QB. The problem is they no longer have their alpha WR with his head in the game.

..and yet without their "alpha WR" with his head in the game, they are still putting up more yards per game this year than last year. Crazy, isn't it?

:laugh2:


Maybe teams should start scheming for Maclin more if they haven't already, because for the past two years he's been the more productive and consistent WR threat.
 
RoyTheHammer;4249754 said:
Its nothing more than a huge assumption to say that none of the Eagles other options would be as good without Jackson.. and frankly i think its just baloney. Vick is proven, Shady is a top 5 running back in the league, and Maclin is a more complete receiver than Jackson.

No more than the assumption of saying they wouldn't miss him.

More complete? I won't argue with that. But Jackson's speed is rare - and Maclin cannot provide that.

Also, as i already said, they've done well in games where Jackson was injured before.. so they've shown they can play without him. Also, when Vick was injured (although most believe it was early on in the game) doesn't even matter, as the point was that he missed several wide open targets throughout the game. The point there being, guys were still getting open plenty without Jackson, Vick just had an off day (probably because he was playing with broken ribs half the game).

Please. They somehow managed to lose to the Arizona freakin' Cardinals - at home and with a backup QB at the helm no less. You can sugar coat that any way you want but it was simply pathetic. And where was your man Maclin? Injured again?

Now, as to your last point, saying that Jackson is right to tell the team that he shouldn't have to run routes over the middle or return punts.. that's just one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard anyone say on here. You're a professional, being paid to play a game.. and you think you're more special than any other wide receiver who's ever played to tell your coaches and the people paying your salary that you shouldn't have to run certain routes or risk getting hurt?

Maybe you failed to read what I actually wrote.

I said I think Jackson was right in that it is stupid to put a speed receiver of his slight build in harm's way by having him run across the field, inviting huge hits.

Please dude.. you lost me right there. Its not stupid at all.. know why? Because if you run go patterns all day and that's it, teams will catch on relativly quickly. Keep a safety over the top.. and no more DeSean Jackson threat.. hence his numbers this year.

Yeah, that's right - safety over the top - two guys to cover one, freeing up all of his buddies all over the rest of the field. Thanks for proving my point for me.

I'll take Maclin anyday of the week over Jackson. He's more productive, more consistent, and simply a better all around WR threat.

Don't forget more injury prone as well. You can have Maclin, he's solid, not special. He is the more complete receiver, but not the bigger threat and not the guy teams account for in their game plans.
 
stasheroo;4249858 said:
No more than the assumption of saying they wouldn't miss him.

More complete? I won't argue with that. But Jackson's speed is rare - and Maclin cannot provide that.

Maybe you failed to read what I actually wrote.

I said I think Jackson was right in that it is stupid to put a speed receiver of his slight build in harm's way by having him run across the field, inviting huge hits.

Yeah, that's right - safety over the top - two guys to cover one, freeing up all of his buddies all over the rest of the field.

Jackson may have rare speed, but alot of other guys in the league are capable deep threats without that speed.. like Maclin. Plus Maclin provides all the other tools as well, where Jackson only has his speed and his go routes.

Maclin also gets doubled quite often as well.. although neither are doubled for a majority of the game.

As i've said before, they've played without him before, and still put up great numbers on offense, so its not an assumption on my part at all, actually.

According to you and some others in this thread, Jackson has been playing uninterested all season.. and yet the offense has still put up more yards per game this year than last. Crazy, isn't it?

If teams don't already gameplan for Maclin (which im sure they already do) they'd better start, because the last two years he's been the most consistent and productive WR on that team.. and i don't see that changing anytime in the future.

Jackson is what he is, a deep threat who will make a big play every couple games and disappear the rest of the time and run lazy routes when his number isn't called.

Maclin is a guy who will give you his all every play and do everything necessary to help the team win. He's more productive, more consistent, and a better all around WR. Its not even a debate who the better player is anymore, and Philly knows that too. You can all say its their fault he's acting the way he is, but truth is he was acting the same last season too before all the big contracts were handed out to other people this year, and there's a good reason why Jackson wasn't one of the guys who got one.

The Eagles organization knows what its doing, and they made a smart move not signing him longterm. To portray them as having done anything wrong in the way they handled this clown is just silly.
 
RoyTheHammer;4249875 said:
Jackson may have rare speed, but alot of other guys in the league are capable deep threats without that speed.. like Maclin. Plus Maclin provides all the other tools as well, where Jackson only has his speed and his go routes.

Few, if any can match Jackson's speed. To say otherwise is lying.

Maclin also gets doubled quite often as well.. although neither are doubled for a majority of the game.

As i've said before, they've played without him before, and still put up great numbers on offense, so its not an assumption on my part at all, actually.

Yeah, they did great for the two games he missed in 2010. They scored 19 and 13 points and lost both games. Maclin must have really 'carried them'.

According to you and some others in this thread, Jackson has been playing uninterested all season.. and yet the offense has still put up more yards per game this year than last. Crazy, isn't it?

Yeah, all to the tune of a 3-6 record...

If teams don't already gameplan for Maclin (which im sure they already do) they'd better start, because the last two years he's been the most consistent and productive WR on that team.. and i don't see that changing anytime in the future.

When was his last 1,000 yard season? Jackson had 1,056 in 2010 and 1,156 in 2009.

Jackson is what he is, a deep threat who will make a big play every couple games and disappear the rest of the time and run lazy routes when his number isn't called.

Jackson is the one-trick pont who happens to have a great trick. One that opens up the entire field for his offense.

Maclin is a guy who will give you his all every play and do everything necessary to help the team win. He's more productive, more consistent, and a better all around WR. Its not even a debate who the better player is anymore, and Philly knows that too.

The true numbers simply don't back up what you're saying. Maclin is the better person and better overall receiver, but Jackson is the guy that opposing defenses fear.

You can all say its their fault he's acting the way he is, but truth is he was acting the same last season too before all the big contracts were handed out to other people this year, and there's a good reason why Jackson wasn't one of the guys who got one.

I see a productive player who went over 1,000 yards receiving and single-handedly won at least one game for his team.

The Eagles organization knows what its doing, and they made a smart move not signing him longterm. To portray them as having done anything wrong in the way they handled this clown is just silly.

You're right, how dare we question the Eagles, look at how well things are running over there...

:rolleyes:
 
stasheroo;4249935 said:
Few, if any can match Jackson's speed. To say otherwise is lying.

Yeah, they did great for the two games he missed in 2010. They scored 19 and 13 points and lost both games. Maclin must have really 'carried them'.


When was his last 1,000 yard season? Jackson had 1,056 in 2010 and 1,156 in 2009.

The true numbers simply don't back up what you're saying. Maclin is the better person and better overall receiver, but Jackson is the guy that opposing defenses fear.

I see a productive player who went over 1,000 yards receiving and single-handedly won at least one game for his team.

You're right, how dare we question the Eagles, look at how well things are running over there...

:rolleyes:

Up until this year, i think they've been running pretty damn well over there actually. Hard to question their success in the past decade.

As for Jackson's speed, i didn't question that he has rare speed, only said that others in the NFL don't have his speed and are still very capable deep threats.


Say what you want, but Jackson has done next to nothing this year, and according to some, doesn't have his head in the game and isn't even playing hard.. and yet the Eagles offense is putting up more yards per game than last year. Make all the excuses you want.

Also, the numbers do support what im saying.

Last year Maclin had the better overall numbers and was the more consistent player, same as this year. Not sure how you are trying to debate that even.

I'll take the more productive, consistent player everytime and let you have the "deep threat" or "homerun hitter"..and i'll win 9 times out of ten.

The Eagles have plenty of talent on offense, and they know they simply don't need him and arn't going to lock up some idiot to a longterm deal, when he hasn't even been that productive on the field this year in the first place, and wasn't as productive as your other young stud receiver last year.

Their main problem on offense this year is the fact that the OL can't block anyone, and even still they are putting up more yards than last season.

Hell, they are 3rd in the league in offense.

If their defense wasn't letting up so many points every game they'd look alot better, which is the main problem with them overall right now. That and Vick getting hurt alot from all the hits he's been taking this year.
 
RoyTheHammer;4249973 said:
Up until this year, i think they've been running pretty damn well over there actually. Hard to question their success in the past decade.

With Jackson playing a big role for them since he was drafted.

As for Jackson's speed, i didn't question that he has rare speed, only said that others in the NFL don't have his speed and are still very capable deep threats.

As long as we can agree that Jackson posesses rare speed.

Say what you want, but Jackson has done next to nothing this year, and according to some, doesn't have his head in the game and isn't even playing hard.. and yet the Eagles offense is putting up more yards per game than last year. Make all the excuses you want.

I wouldn't disagree with this. He's having a lousy year. And so are the Eagles.

Also, the numbers do support what im saying.

Last year Maclin had the better overall numbers and was the more consistent player, same as this year. Not sure how you are trying to debate that even.

Again, where's Maclin's 1,000 yard season? Jackson has two in his last two season. Jackson has 15 TD's receiving to Maclin's 14 - in two less games. Maclin's averaging 13 yards per reception for both season - Jackson is averaging an unreal 20 plus!

I'll take the more productive, consistent player everytime and let you have the "deep threat" or "homerun hitter"..and i'll win 9 times out of ten.

Glad you think so.

The Eagles have plenty of talent on offense, and they know they simply don't need him and arn't going to lock up some idiot to a longterm deal, when he hasn't even been that productive on the field this year in the first place, and wasn't as productive as your other young stud receiver last year.

They sure didn't miss him this week, did they? All that talent and they managed just 7 points on their own against the pathetic Cardinals defense!


Their main problem on offense this year is the fact that the OL can't block anyone, and even still they are putting up more yards than last season.

Hell, they are 3rd in the league in offense.

3rd in yardage - 11th in points.

If their defense wasn't letting up so many points every game they'd look alot better, which is the main problem with them overall right now. That and Vick getting hurt alot from all the hits he's been taking this year.

And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon.

How do you think it affects your deep passing game when your line can't pass protect?

You can hate Jackson if you want and I wouldn't argue, but the fact is that he's a rare deep threat who has given the Eagles great production since they drafted him and has been a bigger playmaker than Maclin has - the numbers back that up.
 
stasheroo;4249987 said:
With Jackson playing a big role for them since he was drafted.



As long as we can agree that Jackson posesses rare speed.



I wouldn't disagree with this. He's having a lousy year. And so are the Eagles.



Again, where's Maclin's 1,000 yard season? Jackson has two in his last two season. Jackson has 15 TD's receiving to Maclin's 14 - in two less games. Maclin's averaging 13 yards per reception for both season - Jackson is averaging an unreal 20 plus!



Glad you think so.



They sure didn't miss him this week, did they? All that talent and they managed just 7 points on their own against the pathetic Cardinals defense!




3rd in yardage - 11th in points.



And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon.

How do you think it affects your deep passing game when your line can't pass protect?

You can hate Jackson if you want and I wouldn't argue, but the fact is that he's a rare deep threat who has given the Eagles great production since they drafted him and has been a bigger playmaker than Maclin has - the numbers back that up.

A 1000 yard season isn't the benchmark. Maclin outperformed Jackson last year, and is doing so this year too.

The Eagles were winning long before Jackson, btw.. and will continue to do so long after he's gone and becomes the next big diva in the NFL, without the big numbers to back it up.
 
RoyTheHammer;4250319 said:
A 1000 yard season isn't the benchmark. Maclin outperformed Jackson last year, and is doing so this year too.

Why is that? Because Jackson reached it and your man Maclin didn't? Numbers show that Jackson has been more productive, to say nothing of his big-play ability and his added value on punt returns. Deal with it.

The Eagles were winning long before Jackson, btw.. and will continue to do so long after he's gone and becomes the next big diva in the NFL, without the big numbers to back it up.

Winning what? 0 Super Bowls? Maybe you're frequenting the wrong NFL Team site?

Jackson has had two 1,000 yard seasons, his second and third in the league while your guy has yet to record his first. His 'numbers' are 'bigger' and better than Maclin's as well.

And Jackson has made the Pro Bowl twice in those 4 seasons as well - to Maclin's zero.

You can dislike Jackson the person all you want, but don't try to carry that over to his productivity and what he's meant to the Eagles.

I don't disagree that they likely will not pay him, for whatever their reasons. But I can also see a player having an issue with getting used up and thrown away while incredibly outperforming his pay grade.

History repeats itself. They had a talented and self-centered receiver there before and didn't take care of him either. That worked out badly as well.
 
stasheroo;4250382 said:
Why is that? Because Jackson reached it and your man Maclin didn't? Numbers show that Jackson has been more productive, to say nothing of his big-play ability and his added value on punt returns. Deal with it.

Winning what? 0 Super Bowls? Maybe you're frequenting the wrong NFL Team site?

Jackson has had two 1,000 yard seasons, his second and third in the league while your guy has yet to record his first. His 'numbers' are 'bigger' and better than Maclin's as well.

And Jackson has made the Pro Bowl twice in those 4 seasons as well - to Maclin's zero.

You can dislike Jackson the person all you want, but don't try to carry that over to his productivity and what he's meant to the Eagles.

I don't disagree that they likely will not pay him, for whatever their reasons. But I can also see a player having an issue with getting used up and thrown away while incredibly outperforming his pay grade.

History repeats itself. They had a talented and self-centered receiver there before and didn't take care of him either. That worked out badly as well.


No, because its an arbitrary number that means nothing, especially when you consider Maclin was 50 yards away from it and D Jag was only 50 yards over it.


2010:

Maclin: 70 catches 964 yards 10 TD's

D Jag: 47 catches 1056 yards 6 TD's


Any reasonable person in the world would see those overall numbers as Maclin outproducing Jackson. Same with this year.

Maclin: 46 catches 612 yards 4 TD's

D Jag: 29 catches 503 yards 2 TD's


So again, the numbers back up what im saying.


..and everyone in the NFL knows that the Eagles have been one of the most successful franchises in the past decade, just because they don't have a super bowl doesn't take away all the postseason appearances and NFC championship appearances. They are considered one of the most well run franchises in the league behind the Pats.

Oh, and now you're using Pro Bowl appearances to measure their value?

Yeaaa.. we'll agree to disagree then. Maclin outperformed Jag the past two years though, and is more consistent from game to game. I could show you the stats for why that is too, but it'd just be a waste of my time.

You're right, Jackson won't get paid, but the reasons will be pretty clear to most who want to accept reasonable circumstances. He's a baby, he quit on his teammates, his coaches, the organization that drafted him and pays his salary last year.. and telling coaches and teammates you shouldn't have to do something that is a part of football is the biggest slap to their face you could make. They're all putting their bodies and their welfare on the line every week, yet you think you're above that and spend your days whining, complaining, and texting your agent during meetings, etc, etc..

He has only himself to blame for not getting paid.. but hey, he'll always have a room and a bed to sleep in at his agents house.

Poor, poor DeSean.. he's such a victim.

:laugh2:
 
RoyTheHammer;4250851 said:
You're right, Jackson won't get paid, but the reasons will be pretty clear to most who want to accept reasonable circumstances. He's a baby, he quit on his teammates, his coaches, the organization that drafted him and pays his salary last year.. and telling coaches and teammates you shouldn't have to do something that is a part of football is the biggest slap to their face you could make. They're all putting their bodies and their welfare on the line every week, yet you think you're above that and spend your days whining, complaining, and texting your agent during meetings, etc, etc..

He has only himself to blame for not getting paid.. but hey, he'll always have a room and a bed to sleep in at his agents house.

Poor, poor DeSean.. he's such a victim.

:laugh2:

Damn ...... great post.
 
RoyTheHammer;4250851 said:
No, because its an arbitrary number that means nothing, especially when you consider Maclin was 50 yards away from it and D Jag was only 50 yards over it.

No, it's a benchmark for a good season. And it has been for years. We can use Pro Bowl if you'd prefer?

2010:

Maclin: 70 catches 964 yards 10 TD's

D Jag: 47 catches 1056 yards 6 TD's


Any reasonable person in the world would see those overall numbers as Maclin outproducing Jackson. Same with this year.

And why is 2009 conveniently left out? Oh, because Jackson's numbers dwarf Maclin's. Got it.

Maclin: 46 catches 612 yards 4 TD's

D Jag: 29 catches 503 yards 2 TD's


So again, the numbers back up what im saying.

I'm not questioning this year's numbers. They certainy back up what you're saying. And I've stated that his contract status has negatively affected his on-field performance.

..and everyone in the NFL knows that the Eagles have been one of the most successful franchises in the past decade, just because they don't have a super bowl doesn't take away all the postseason appearances and NFC championship appearances. They are considered one of the most well run franchises in the league behind the Pats.

By you maybe. I know them for the choke-artiists that they truly are. Always thinking of themselves as 'the smartest guys in the room' and having nothing to show for it. Most of their postseason success was the direct result of a pathetic NFC East and an overall downturn of the NFC as a conference. They were the best of the worst. And when it came down to it, the facts proved it.

[quoteOh, and now you're using Pro Bowl appearances to measure their value? [/quote]

No, we'll discount that too as it blows gaping holes in your 'case'.

Yeaaa.. we'll agree to disagree then. Maclin outperformed Jag the past two years though, and is more consistent from game to game. I could show you the stats for why that is too, but it'd just be a waste of my time.

Too bad he was robbed out of that Pro Bowl nod eh? Conspiracy!

You're right, Jackson won't get paid, but the reasons will be pretty clear to most who want to accept reasonable circumstances. He's a baby, he quit on his teammates, his coaches, the organization that drafted him and pays his salary last year.. and telling coaches and teammates you shouldn't have to do something that is a part of football is the biggest slap to their face you could make. They're all putting their bodies and their welfare on the line every week, yet you think you're above that and spend your days whining, complaining, and texting your agent during meetings, etc, etc..

No, you're right. It's brilliant football strategy to have your 170 lb speedster running crossing routes. And a month later, if he comes back from his most recent concussion, maybe you can put him out there to do it again? Run him into the ground, never pay him, and send him packing when he's used up. Sounds perfectly fair and reasonable to me...

He has only himself to blame for not getting paid.. but hey, he'll always have a room and a bed to sleep in at his agents house.

Poor, poor DeSean.. he's such a victim.

:laugh2:

You're right, the Eagles are a bunch of geniuses who have it all figured out. After all, the proof is in the pudding, huh?

At least the Eagles will always have that beautiful trophy case...

:trophy:
 
zrinkill;4250858 said:
Damn ...... great post.

Thanks man. Sick of all the defending of players who, if they just came to work and busted their butt everyday, would have what they spend countless hours whining and complaining for. But telling your teammates and coaches you don't think you should have to play football is the ultimate slap in the face. Say what you want about Dez, but guys like him give it all for the team.. even TO and Roy Williams.

Jackson is just a crybaby punk who is in his last days with the Eagles, and deservedly so. You act like a child, you're going to be treated like one.
 
RoyTheHammer;4250983 said:
Thanks man. Sick of all the defending of players who, if they just came to work and busted their butt everyday, would have what they spend countless hours whining and complaining for. But telling your teammates and coaches you don't think you should have to play football is the ultimate slap in the face. Say what you want about Dez, but guys like him give it all for the team.. even TO and Roy Williams.

Jackson is just a crybaby punk who is in his last days with the Eagles, and deservedly so. You act like a child, you're going to be treated like one.

I agree 100%
 
RoyTheHammer;4250983 said:
Thanks man. Sick of all the defending of players who, if they just came to work and busted their butt everyday, would have what they spend countless hours whining and complaining for.

Jackson did that, for over 3 years. But the Eagles preferred to pay Steve Smith more to ride the pine than to take care of one of their own.

But telling your teammates and coaches you don't think you should have to play football is the ultimate slap in the face. Say what you want about Dez, but guys like him give it all for the team.. even TO and Roy Williams.

Jackson is just a crybaby punk who is in his last days with the Eagles, and deservedly so. You act like a child, you're going to be treated like one.

That's a load of bull right there, and an uninformed position which absolves the Eagles organization of any wrongdoing in the current mess.

I'm not absolving Jackson of his role in the current mess. But I am alos not absolving the Eagles of theirs either.

Jackson has put up Pro Bowl numbers and has far outperformed his contract. There is something to be said for that.

And when the Eagles will foolishly pay Steve Smith over $2 million to ride the pine while Jackson gets $500,000? That's just bad business. And it blew up in their face.

Has Jackson handled it right? No.

But neither have the Eagles.
 

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