Developing a young QB

[dirt]

Remember back in the day- pre salary cap- where teams drafted young QB's and sat them for 2-3 years before game action. Now these youngsters are thrown into the fire almost after draft day press conferences.
But look at some of the most successful young QB's out there. Many sat and learned the game: Palmer at Cincinnati; Philip Rivers--probably the most impressive of the youngsters; Tony Romo; perhaps Aaron Rodgers with Gbay and Jay Cutler in Denver are in similar situations; Jake Delhome was a back up for a number of years; Seneca Wallace is looking pretty good; Huard may keep Green on the bench as well as Garrard keeping the job in Jax.
The young guys having success dont have the ups and downs that QB's thrown into the fire seem to have. They seem more with it as far as reading defenses and handling pressure. There isnt that deer in the headlights look.
I guess it is a luxury these days to be able to develop a QB because everyone wants instant results, especially after the contracts they get but it seems that so many flame out

 

[Rush 2112]

Remember back in the day- pre salary cap- where teams drafted young QB's and sat them for 2-3 years before game action. Now these youngsters are thrown into the fire almost after draft day press conferences.
But look at some of the most successful young QB's out there. Many sat and learned the game: Palmer at Cincinnati; Philip Rivers--probably the most impressive of the youngsters; Tony Romo; perhaps Aaron Rodgers with Gbay and Jay Cutler in Denver are in similar situations; Jake Delhome was a back up for a number of years; Seneca Wallace is looking pretty good; Huard may keep Green on the bench as well as Garrard keeping the job in Jax.
The young guys having success dont have the ups and downs that QB's thrown into the fire seem to have. They seem more with it as far as reading defenses and handling pressure. There isnt that deer in the headlights look.
I guess it is a luxury these days to be able to develop a QB because everyone wants instant results, especially after the contracts they get but it seems that so many flame out

David Garrard........

 

[dirt]

that must mean they really dont like Leftwich for some reason

 

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

I have always had a problem drafting a QB high in the draft and then letting him ride the bench while making a lot of money and killing half of the length of his contract.

Be like Troy Aikman. Drafted high and off you go.

I still don't believe that Palmer is any better than he would've been if he had started day one. Same for Phillips in a way. Seems to be working for Young.

The others mentioned weren't high draft picks.

 

[jackrussell]

I have always had a problem drafting a QB high in the draft and then letting him ride the bench while making a lot of money and killing half of the length of his contract.

Be like Troy Aikman. Drafted high and off you go.

I still don't believe that Palmer is any better than he would've been if he had started day one. Same for Phillips in a way. Seems to be working for Young.

The others mentioned weren't high draft picks.

Nowhere in the original post was there even a mention as to where they were drafted.

There's an argument to be made on both sides, and there are varying results from each method. Just goes to show there is no dyed in the wool sure fire way to do it. Different strokes.

 

[Fan Since 77]

There is only so much you can learn by watching. I think it benefits the more athletic quarterbacks to start the learning process by jumping into the fire. For the more cerebrial types, sitting back and soaking in knowledge is the best way to go. To further my point, sitting a guy like Vince Young in Tennesee isn't going to help him out much. Like jack said, different strokes for different folks. There is no blueprint for success.

 

[jterrell]

My preference is the slow and steady approach.

I understand Aikman was an exception but I blame the pounding Troy took his first 2 years on our run ending when it did.

Had he sat one additional year I expect we would have still wont he SB in 92,93 and 95. We'd have won a another along the way and he probably would have lasted at a high level until 99 or so.

Yea our crappy front office job killed us but Troy would have given us another shot or two if healthy.

NFL offenses are just not easy to learn. Teammates tendenices are not easy to learn. Being so comfortable with those things because of a couple of years of practice maked a huge difference.

Look at David Carr, Joey Harrington and others. Those guys are still trying to get over the bad mistakes they developed while playing early and sucking at a high level. Kubiak is back to teaching Carr basic mechanics for crying out loud.

If drafting a Qb high round 1 means playing him as a rook count me amongst those that would rather pass on high first round QBs.

Ron Wolf didnt need first round picks to produce mutiple NFL long term starters and he did so by having them sit and learn.


Playing rookie Qbs isn't about developing them, its about shutting up fans and keeping coaches their jobs.

I love the future for Young and Lienart but doubt very seriously either benfits from playing this season.
In fact I can almost guarantee they'll both have new offenses to run next season.

 

[wileedog]

My preference is the slow and steady approach.

I understand Aikman was an exception but I blame the poubnding Troy took his first 2 years on our run ending when it did.

Had he sat one additional year I expect we would have still wont he SB in 92,93 and 95. We'd have won a another along the way and he probably would have lasted until 99 or so.

Yea our crappy front office job killed us but Troy would have gave us another shot or two if healthy.

NFL offenses are just not easy to learn. Teammates tendenices are not easy to learn. Being so comfortbale with those things because of a couple of years of practice maked a huge difference.

Look at David Carr, Joey Harrington and others. Those guys are still trying to get over the bad mistakes they developed while playing early and sucking at a high level. Kubiak is back to teaching Carr basic mechanics for crying out loud.

If drafting a Qb high round 1 means playing him as a rook count me amongst those that would rather pass on high first round QBs.

Ron Wolf didnt need first round picks to produce mutiple NFL long term starters and he did so by having them sit and learn.


Playing rookie Qbs isn't about developing them, its about shutting up fans and keeping coaches their jobs.

I agree with every syllable.

 

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

Nowhere in the original post was there even a mention as to where they were drafted.

Didn't say a thing about the original post saying anything about draft spots.

I was looking at the names mentioned and responded to such.

You are correct in your statement about there are varying results from each method.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Nowhere in the original post was there even a mention as to where they were drafted.

There's an argument to be made on both sides, and there are varying results from each method. Just goes to show there is no dyed in the wool sure fire way to do it. Different strokes.

it's all about the QB, and his ability to get "it", and the coaching he receives

draft status, or lack thereof, means crappo