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and was attempting to lunge to the goal line.
You've perfectly explained why it wasn't a catch. The rules don't say "attempt," they say you have to "gather yourself" and execute. That is why going to the ground still applied and it wasn't a catch here but the Giants game play by Dez I posted was a catch. At least you were honest about what actually took place on that play versus lying to try to say the upright catch rules applied.
 

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That's my one complaint. I understand what the refs were thinking when they overturned the call, but I felt there was enough of a question that they probably should have let the call stand.
Thats my only complaint, they seemed to stretch for any rule that overturn the call, obviously as a Cowboys fan i dont like the call but it doesnt seem to be the norm for review back then.
 

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I'm not an expert on the subject but I'll tell you what I "think" I know.
I would do a search based on your browser. Should list some free ones that are recommended. I am generally using chrome at work when I access this site & I have a personal chromebook. My IT guy at work loaded something for me a few weeks back & it virtually eliminated all the ones that were popping up and making the site super frustrating.

There are also some settings within your browser that you can use to try to manage the way sites are allowed to behave. I don't think that alone was enough to deal with the issues we were having on this site but it may have been part of the solution.

Sorry, but the IT guy did it & I was only half paying attention.
Thanks man. I’ll get one. Really had no idea. Yeah I’ve heard of them, but never really needed one.
 

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Lol... The #1 posting Eagles fan on this site doesn't think it was a catch. Color me surprised.

Everyone knows Dez caught the football, took 3 steps while switching ball carrying hands and was attempting to lunge to the goal line.

Well- except the total morons or shamelessly biased. Don't feed the troll.
Exactly, several times I have pointed out, after catch he switched hands , the act of catch is finished at that point, football move finished , steps , lunge & ground etc doesnt matter.

Unfortunaely the refs never considered switching hands .
 

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You’re wrong, but let’s say you’re right. Can you go to the ground for 15 steps? What about 8!? 3? How many steps before you weren’t simply going to the ground?
Since it’s not specified in the book, It’s up to the ref’s interpretation.
 

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Exactly, several times I have pointed out, after catch he switched hands , the act of catch is finished at that point, football move finished , steps , lunge & ground etc doesnt matter.

Unfortunaely the refs never considered switching hands .
How do you "switch hands" when you grab it with two and just take one hand off?
 

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Sounds like an excuse to me. You can just watch the actual game sequence to see exactly what happened.
you call yourself a Cowboy Fan ?? and think that was not a catch ?? Definitely a DakTard !! Only a clown or a fan of clowns would say that was not a catch ! Even the NFL 3 years later admitted it was and changed back the rule using that as the Reason why .

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It was a catch by all meanings of what the word has always meant in the sport, even according to the rules during the day it happened.

The mafia controlled Dean Blandino and his cohorts interpreted the rule in some fantastical way to overturn it which had nothing to do with why the rule was setup and worded that way in the first place (in both spirit and principle) due to a previously disputed catch by Calvin Johnson which was nothing like Dez’s and therefore should never have been applied.
 
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Man this team been getting screw over on GB games for the longest. Guess that is why they hired Mike McCarthy :laugh:
 

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you call yourself a Cowboy Fan ?? and think that was not a catch ?? Definitely a DakTard !! Only a clown or a fan of clowns would say that was not a catch ! Even the NFL 3 years later admitted it was and changed back the rule using that as the Reason why .

****
I truly hope you recover.
 

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How do you "switch hands" when you grab it with two and just take one hand off?
If he is not finished the catch , there is no way he takes one hand off and still has the ball in his possesion.
 

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You've perfectly explained why it wasn't a catch. The rules don't say "attempt," they say you have to "gather yourself" and execute.
He caught the ball and took 3 steps. If you think he lost control when he hit the ground that's fine. That is also called a fumble which he recovered. In either case, the Cowboys got screwed.
 

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If he is not finished the catch , there is no way he takes one hand off and still has the ball in his possesion.
You don't finish a catch by taking one hand off a ball you grabbed with 2 hands. And, he is also falling to the ground after leaping into the air. They had a rule for that. And by that rule, losing control of the ball after it hit the ground meant an incompletion. It also meant that anything else he did on the way to the ground was null and void (just like the sideline catch rules). Going to the ground takes the place of the football move/time element of the catch (for a player who's upright), or part (c) of the catch rule, and it has one requirement: keep control of the ball after you hit the ground, especially if the ball touches the ground. Mike Pereira explains here:

 

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He caught the ball and took 3 steps. If you think he lost control when he hit the ground that's fine. That is also called a fumble which he recovered. In either case, the Cowboys got screwed.
You haven't been in these discussions so I don't mind saying this for the 5th or 6th time: 3 steps was not part of the catch rules in 2014 so that fact is irrelevant. They are now but not then. You can NOW take 3 steps on the way to the ground and have it be a catch. You could not then. So back then when you are on your way to the ground you have to keep the ball off the ground and maintain control of the ball after hitting the ground. No one can dispute he lost control of the ball or that it touched the ground so everyone fights tooth and nail to say it was a catch and going to the ground didn't apply because they HAVE to in order to say it was a catch. Except that's not how it went down if people are being honest.

And if you were trying to call it a catch before the ground you don't fumble a ball when you were touched by the defender.
 
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