Dez says he would draft Jalen Ramsey

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Honey badger definitely hasn't been a sloutch. Which we would had took him.

Far from a slouch. I think he's a great player. The fact that he's only 5'9 and had substance abuse issues scared some teams off. But Matthieu's tape from college is more impressive than that of Ramsey.
 

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He heavily endorsed Honey Badger..

We'd be fortunate for Ramsey to be available at our pick

If you want Dallas to go 4-12 again or worse then draft Ramsey. But if you want the team to have a future and have a better record than 4-12 next season I suggest drafting a talented QB with the fourth pick.
 

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If you want Dallas to go 4-12 again or worse then draft Ramsey. But if you want the team to have a future and have a better record than 4-12 next season I suggest drafting a talented QB with the fourth pick.

How does a qb on the bench help us more next year than Ramsey? Ramsey is an immidiate upgrade over anyone we have in our secondary. Are you expecting Romo to go down again? Even if he does in the first game of the season, do you think a rookie qb is going to learn our crappy offensive scheme well enough to do better than 4-12? Pretty ignorant post imo
 

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How does a qb on the bench help us more next year than Ramsey? Ramsey is an immidiate upgrade over anyone we have in our secondary. Are you expecting Romo to go down again? Even if he does in the first game of the season, do you think a rookie qb is going to learn our terrible offensive scheme well enough to do better than 4-12? Pretty ignorant post imo

No what's ignorant is ignoring the most important position on the team over an overrated CB. If Ramsey had Deion Sanders type of skills and abilities then I would think about it but I would still prefer a QB. Romo has not had a healthy (full) season in years. Why would you take a chance on not taking a QB? You do realize that our team's pass rush was average last year? So how would an average pass rush improve with Ramsey?

If Dallas has another losing season with a top five pick you and some others will be saying drafting another CB is the solution. The only aspect that I do agree with you about is the crappy offensive scheme but a talent QB can make Dallas' crappy offensive look respectable and good. If you disagree look at what Romo has done for Jason's Garrett.

Bottom line is I rather have a talented rookie QB on the bench instead of having an overrated CB who will probably get toasted on a regular basis. Also, this team does not draft well when it comes to CBs in the first round.
 

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How does a qb on the bench help us more next year than Ramsey? Ramsey is an immidiate upgrade over anyone we have in our secondary. Are you expecting Romo to go down again? Even if he does in the first game of the season, do you think a rookie qb is going to learn our crappy offensive scheme well enough to do better than 4-12? Pretty ignorant post imo
How do you know this? What if we draft Ramsey and he's Morris Claiborne 2.0? What impact will Ramsey make if our pass rush isnt fixed? Lastly, why does everything have to be immediate impact with some/most of you? We pass up on a QB, and these "immediate impact" fans will be crying once Romo retires and we have nothing behind him.
 

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No what's ignorant is ignoring the most important position on the team over an overrated CB. If Ramsey had Deion Sanders type of skills and abilities then I would think about it but I would still prefer a QB. Romo has not had a healthy (full) season in years. Why would you take a chance on not taking a QB? You do realize that our team's pass rush was average last year? So how would an average pass rush improve with Ramsey?

If Dallas has another losing season with a top five pick you and some others will be saying drafting another CB is the solution. The only aspect that I do agree with you about is the crappy offensive scheme but a talent QB can make Dallas' crappy offensive look respectable and good. If you disagree look at what Romo has done for Jason's Garrett.

Bottom line is I rather have a talented rookie QB on the bench instead of having an overrated CB who will probably get toasted on a regular basis. Also, this team does not draft well when it comes to CBs in the first round.

Ramsey wouldnt even be my choice... personally i would like to trade back and get zeke, then hope lynch makes it to the 2nd. But my question to you was not about our future down the road, you said drafting a qb at 4 will help us more next year than ramsey would, im just failing to see how thats possible
 

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How do you know this? What if we draft Ramsey and he's Morris Claiborne 2.0? What impact will Ramsey make if our pass rush isnt fixed? Lastly, why does everything have to be immediate impact with some/most of you? We pass up on a QB, and these "immediate impact" fans will be crying once Romo retires and we have nothing behind him.

Your right, i shouldnt have said hed be the best, i expect Jones to make progress next year and i really hope scandrick returns to his old self, cause he can be pretty damn good. I also think our D will be much improved regardless of who is drafted, when our offense is healthy we are great at keeping the other teams offense off the field. Btw, i loved Wentz when he was projected to go in the early 2nd, just not sure he is a top 5 pick, same with skinny bones Goff.
 

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Ramsey wouldnt even be my choice... personally i would like to trade back and get zeke, then hope lynch makes it to the 2nd. But my question to you was not about our future down the road, you said drafting a qb at 4 will help us more next year than ramsey would, im just failing to see how thats possible

I pointed out to you that Romo hasn't been healthy for years. That right there should tell you all you need to know.
 

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I pointed out to you that Romo hasn't been healthy for years. That right there should tell you all you need to know.

I can understand that. As far as i can remember Romo only had 1 season where he was out more than 2 games (excluding last year of course) correct me if im wrong. Im not on jerrys train, dont get me wrong, but i do think romo has 3 years left and hes proven that he can still play at an extremely high level. Im certainly not against taking a qb with the 4, but at the same rime i woule like to maximize the chance to succeed with Romo
Are you against taking Zeke on a trade back? The strength of our team is obviously our o line, which should be even more improved with a seasoned Collins, Zeke could be a superstar with us
 

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Ramsey is the best player in the entire Draft but some posters would rather draft QB in the 1st every year until 1st choices like Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Johnny Manziel and finally a KaeperPick trade argument to just to take another Over-Hyped post Collegiate career, Pre-Draft prima-donna @ #2 around 2025. That's 4 picks and 1 trade, Cleveland potentially passed on 5 Ramsey like palymakers for Bust QBs, year after year after year after year....after year!


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If he were the best pure corner I might be more fond of the idea. But as it is, I'm not sure I want to be drafting another guy who they don't even know if he'll play corner or move to safety.
 

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Ramsey is the best player in the entire Draft but some posters would rather draft QB in the 1st every year until 1st choices like Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Johnny Manziel and finally a KaeperPick trade argument to just to take another Over-Hyped post Collegiate career, Pre-Draft prima-donna @ #2 around 2025. That's 4 picks and 1 trade, Cleveland potentially passed on 5 Ramsey like palymakers for Bust QBs, year after year after year after year....after year!


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The thing is you don't have to draft QB at Pick #4 to get a good one. None of us know if Wentz or Goff
will be better NFL Players than Conner Cook, Dak Prescott, Hogan and etc. Its a crap shoot. Whats more
important is landing a Pro Bowl Potentially talented Player at #4 now that's whats important. Remind
everyone RG3 was taken 1st Round and remind me where Kirk Cousins was taken....case in point.

They need to do their homework on the top 6 or 7 Quarterbacks in this Draft.
 
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