Dez with Garrett shade

[gimmesix]

If I remember correctly Lawrence broke his foot and Spencer’s knee needed micro fracture surgery.
Don’t remember Dumerville ever being a realistic option.
Selvie had been on the team as a backup in 2013. Mincy was supposed to be a stop-gap until Lawrence was ready to start!

Dumervil wasn't a realistic option because this front office wasn't going to pay for a Dumervil. I agree that injuries did us no favor. If you want to say we wouldn't have signed Dumervil because we had Spencer, that's fine, because Spencer had his best season in 2012. However, Spencer had season-ending microfracture surgery, and what did we do? We re-signed him because he was cheap instead of fixing the position in FA. Now, we had drafted Lawrence, but that gets back to relying on a rookie to star immediately instead of fixing the position in free agency. George Selvie and Jeremy Mincey, who we signed in 2014, were not fixes, they were cheap stopgaps.

It's not that different than other moves this front office has made over the years that have limited what the coaches have to work with. You can't fill every position with expensive FAs, of course, but you've got to do better than buying on the clearance rack. We let DeMarcus Ware walk away in free agency and our only plan to replace him really was a second-round rookie stepping in as a star immediately, especially with our other starting end coming off major surgery.

The coaches we've had have done plenty of things wrong, but they have been handicapped by this front office.

 

[ArtClink]

Jerry owns that more than Garrett.

It's his show.

This. Garrett was a puppet.

 

[StylisticS]

Eh, Garrett should of been gone after the 3 8-8 seasons, but he's not the main reason.
Is Dez still close with Jerry? Cause that's the man that hired Garrett, kept Garrett for a decade and also decided to tie one of his hands behind his back when it came to building the roster.

Man that 2014 season. Garrett had his foot out the door and both feet were out after that SF game. Then a run of wins in a row not seen for 7 years happened.

 

[DandyDon52]

You know these threads become more comical everyday,

you guys act like this is something that's only owned by Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys..

are you telling me that the other 32 teams are going to Super Bowls on a regular basis or they're making Super Bowls within the four to eight-year. Most of these players are on teams these players there are so many I wouldn't even be able to start the list but if you wanna start it could be with I don't know the Detroit Lions they almost wasted Matthew stafford's career, but they wasted Barry Sanders and Megatron just to name a few..

that's just one team but there's a whole bunch of teams, I don't know the Cincinnati Bengals have had some superstars you can go through the whole 32 teams and find there were players that are considered legacy players that never won a Super Bowl because not a lot of teams are doing it,,

normally there's one team that's a dynasty and they're winning most of all the Super bowls in that little 7 to 10 year. Like Kansas city's eating up a lot of that this last decade..

so there's a lot of legacy players all over the NFL on other teams that are not winning Super Bowls but they also choose to sign these contracts if these players were so in search of a ring that it was so important to them why are they signing 2nd and 3rd contracts with their same teams.

that goes for that list up there why not just bail? I mean right now why did lamb and Prescott and now parsons is next, but other players why are they staying here for so long if it's so upsetting? then why are they staying ?​

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they can choose to turn down the money become free agents and go somewhere and TRY and get a ring...​

And that even includes DeMarcus Ware, he didn't turn down the money but when he got to that point like other players get in the NFL like deebo Samuels is the next guy up ,who's going to just get flat out released from his team ,that at some point the money versus production and injuries these guys leave and some get lucky enough like where to get a ring somewhere else..

they didn't seek that out they were gonna be retiring Dallas Cowboys and other teams have these guys sprinkled all over the place but the crazy thing is we're blaming Jerry Jones here for this that we have so many legacy players..HMM

isn't that saying that they brought a lot of superstars to this team through the draft /undrafted free agents? I mean there's so many somebody did something right because we have so many superstars that didn't make Super Bowls but they are superstars, right?​

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you call them legacy players ,well they don't have a ring and everyone's upset because they think they deserve the ring and yet somehow they didn't contribute to getting a ring but there are a lot of them on the Cowboys team.​

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HMM IT must mean the GM/Owner filled this team up with superstars, not bad knock on the GM, is it, I mean at the same time isn't that kind of giving him a compliment?​

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Heres 25 of these great players, many not DCs that did not win rings.. hmmm​

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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...dan-marino-to-lamar-jackson-and-more-legends/​

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This does occur with other teams, and someone can criticize those teams too, but that
in no way excuses Jerry and his failures to win when he had some great players.

People criticize Jerry here because ........this is a cowboys forum lol.

 

[RonWashington]

Lol Garrett sucks

Now that Dungy and Harrison for some odd reason have been relegated to the parking lot of the stadiums pre game that whole NBC show is a dumpster fire .

 

[plymkr]

Lol Garrett sucks

Whether you like Garrett or not, that is one creepy smile. That is straight out of the movie Smile and Smile 2.

 

[heir]

Elliott and Bryant do not belong on that list. In fact they own some responsibility for the underachieving.

I also don't know if you can blame Garrett for Sean Lee's injuries.

 

[blueblood70]

This does occur with other teams, and someone can criticize those teams too, but that
in no way excuses Jerry and his failures to win when he had some great players.

People criticize Jerry here because ........this is a cowboys forum lol.

So the Cowboys are not wasting any more talent than most any other team in the NFL therefore it's not even worth talking about I think that's the point you're missing it literally is so normal that there's no reason to criticize them but let me give you some real facts those players were also responsible in some of those big games for not stepping up for not being better for not elevating their game in the playoffs a lot of them had penalties missed blocks dropped passes you know that throws all that goes on the entire player as well they're part of this process they didn't get it done when it needed to get done..​

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yeah, i think that's what people are missing here those players are equally responsible for those failures so I'm not going to feel bad for them they had their shot it didn't happen it didn't get done it's time to stop whining about things that happened to a lot of other players on other teams..​

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I mean some of our stars right now that are on this team you can go back to the some of those playoff losses like Trayvon Diggs had moments against the San Francisco 49ers that he could have had an interception, he dropped, he could have broke up a play to kittles, because no matter how great he ends up here he can end up being a legacy player, he's responsible for not going further in the playoffs as much as Jerry!!!​

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Jerry sure put a lot of talent on this team to have that big a list of legacy players people are missing that did you miss that at the end I know I have rants that go a long ways here but Jerry sure has a big list of legacy players that means he put talent on the field and sometimes that talent just didn't get it done...​

I mean is it Jerry's fault that Jason Witten didn't get that extra half yard in the Seattle game that led to Tony Romo dropping the snap on a field goal I'd say no and I'd say that you guys need to look deeper on that list and find out there the players are equally responsible for some of these playoff failures and I'm not gonna feel bad for them they also signed 2nd and 3rd contracts here instead of leaving they took the money they had all the information they needed and didn't get it done...

It happens on a regular basis, you're admitting it does happen to those teams you can criticize those teams, no you can't,

because it is pretty much the norm there are more great players on teams that are not winning Super Bowls then the opposite just like when we go around and talk about first round picks there are more undrafted players in the Hall of Fame than there is first round players there are facts the back reasons not to get on the Cowboys about it because it's pretty much understood that this isn't guaranteed when you sign new contracts on teams that they're going to Super Bowls because it's more than likely that's not happening they're not winning Super Bowls....

 

[Jarntt]

Screw Dez. Should have cut him sooner.

 

[jterrell]

Dez was one of my favorite players because of his intensity and passion for the star but no one ever thought Dez was bringing A+ football takes to anything.

Dez as commentator needs to die off quickly. There is a reason no media outlet will hire him.

 

[Whyjerry]

I also don't know if you can blame Garrett for Sean Lee's injuries.

I can. Sean Lee was never a MLB. Too small. They should have gotten another Purple Drank Type and made Lee a Will LB.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

Dez was useless after his long-term deal.

I don't know that he should be throwing shade.

The GB 2016 playoff game says otherwise but sure.

 

[DuncanIso]

I can. Sean Lee was never a MLB. Too small. They should have gotten another Purple Drank Type and made Lee a Will LB.

Lee was built like a tank.

 

[heir]

I can. Sean Lee was never a MLB. Too small. They should have gotten another Purple Drank Type and made Lee a Will LB.

Most of his injuries had nothing to die with his size. Lots of non-contact, ligament tears etc. whether he should have Beena will or MLB wouldn't change that.

 

[Whyjerry]

Lee was built like a tank.

Stop it. Lee was not a big guy.

 

[Whyjerry]

Most of his injuries had nothing to die with his size. Lots of non-contact, ligament tears etc. whether he should have Beena will or MLB wouldn't change that.

Yeah right

 

[ak47kaehu]

It's more the Jones' fault for the cowboys failures and less Garrett.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Government took half.

Agents got a chunk.

Agents take 3%, everyone pays income tax.

 

[DandyDon52]

So the Cowboys are not wasting any more talent than most any other team in the NFL therefore it's not even worth talking about I think that's the point you're missing it literally is so normal that there's no reason to criticize them but let me give you some real facts those players were also responsible in some of those big games for not stepping up for not being better for not elevating their game in the playoffs a lot of them had penalties missed blocks dropped passes you know that throws all that goes on the entire player as well they're part of this process they didn't get it done when it needed to get done..​

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yeah, i think that's what people are missing here those players are equally responsible for those failures so I'm not going to feel bad for them they had their shot it didn't happen it didn't get done it's time to stop whining about things that happened to a lot of other players on other teams..​

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I mean some of our stars right now that are on this team you can go back to the some of those playoff losses like Trayvon Diggs had moments against the San Francisco 49ers that he could have had an interception, he dropped, he could have broke up a play to kittles, because no matter how great he ends up here he can end up being a legacy player, he's responsible for not going further in the playoffs as much as Jerry!!!​

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Jerry sure put a lot of talent on this team to have that big a list of legacy players people are missing that did you miss that at the end I know I have rants that go a long ways here but Jerry sure has a big list of legacy players that means he put talent on the field and sometimes that talent just didn't get it done...​

I mean is it Jerry's fault that Jason Witten didn't get that extra half yard in the Seattle game that led to Tony Romo dropping the snap on a field goal I'd say no and I'd say that you guys need to look deeper on that list and find out there the players are equally responsible for some of these playoff failures and I'm not gonna feel bad for them they also signed 2nd and 3rd contracts here instead of leaving they took the money they had all the information they needed and didn't get it done...

It happens on a regular basis, you're admitting it does happen to those teams you can criticize those teams, no you can't,

because it is pretty much the norm there are more great players on teams that are not winning Super Bowls then the opposite just like when we go around and talk about first round picks there are more undrafted players in the Hall of Fame than there is first round players there are facts the back reasons not to get on the Cowboys about it because it's pretty much understood that this isn't guaranteed when you sign new contracts on teams that they're going to Super Bowls because it's more than likely that's not happening they're not winning Super Bowls....

well Jerry is the one who controls everything, the HC, and staff have been his hires.
The coaches have been to blame for much of what we see in games.
The players, if they play poorly, Jerry controls the draft, and FA, so again it is on him.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Sure, it's ultimately Jerry's fault for hiring and sticking with a worthless fraud of a coach like Garrett for so long.

But that doesn't change the fact that Garrett was a worthless fraud of a coach.