Did anyone know this "Tie Breaker"?! Playoff Scenarios...

[LarryCanadian]

It's the last paragraph I put some asterisks around.....



Tampa Bay (9-5) currently owns the first wild-card spot, which leaves four 8-6 teams - Washington, Minnesota, Dallas and Atlanta - battling for the sixth seed.

Here's where the Cowboys currently stand in that crowded NFC playoff picture. The following may or may not cause dizziness: Tampa Bay will finish the season at home against Atlanta and New Orleans (3-11). If the Buccaneers and Cowboys both finish 10-6, Tampa Bay wins the tiebreaker because of a better common opponents records.
The Cowboys lost all potential tiebreakers with Washington after the Commanders swept the season series for the first time since 1995. The Cowboys need to win out and hope the Commanders split their final games against New York and at Philadelphia (6-6) since the Commanders advance by virtue of head-to-head in a tie.
If Chicago (10-4) clinches the NFC North with a win Sunday at Green Bay (3-11), the Cowboys would hold the wild-card tiebreaker on Minnesota based on strength of victory. If Dallas and Minnesota both win out, they would have the same conference record (8-4), and because they only play three common opponents, the next tiebreaker is strength of victory.
If the Cowboys win out, they will hold the tiebreaker on Atlanta because of their conference record (6-4), which would end up 8-4. The Falcons currently are 5-5 against the NFC with games at Tampa Bay and against Carolina.
The Cowboys would not win a tiebreaker with the Chicago Bears if they should lose out and Minnesota wins out, which would give the Vikings the NFC North title. The Bears already have clinched a better NFC record than the Cowboys.
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And if the Cowboys should finish in a three-or-more-team tiebreaker that involves the Commanders, they are eliminated immediately, because if teams involved in a multiple-team tiebreaker are from the same division, then the division tiebreaker takes first precedence, and losing both games to Washington aces out the Cowboys before they even stack up against the other teams.
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That last "tiebreaker" really stinks, because it means if we end up tied with Washington, both Dallas and Washington can't be wild cards, we are eliminated automatically, no matter what tiebreakers we might hold over other teams. I never heard of that one before!

Basically the Cowboys need to win out, and get a bit of help!

The above scenarios were from the official website.

Larry

 

[DallasDomination]

yes I knew about it. It sucks doesnt it?

 

[Michael88Irvin]

Tampa Bay (9-5) currently owns the first wild-card spot, which leaves four 8-6 teams - Washington, Minnesota, Dallas and Atlanta - battling for the sixth seed.

Here's where the Cowboys currently stand in that crowded NFC playoff picture. The following may or may not cause dizziness: Tampa Bay will finish the season at home against Atlanta and New Orleans (3-11). If the Buccaneers and Cowboys both finish 10-6, Tampa Bay wins the tiebreaker because of a better common opponents records.

THAT is incorrect... WON/LOSS % vs. common opponents would be equal (TB vs. DET, SF, CAR, WAS = 3 wins 2 losses & DAL vs. DET, SF, CAR, WAS = 3 wins 2 losses), so it would move to SOV (Strength of Victory) in which Cowboys holds a huge lead on TB.

The Cowboys lost all potential tiebreakers with Washington after the Commanders swept the season series for the first time since 1995. The Cowboys need to win out and hope the Commanders split their final games against New York and at Philadelphia (6-6) since the Commanders advance by virtue of head-to-head in a tie.

Unless the Commanders take the 5th seed, leaving the 6th seed to us.

If Chicago (10-4) clinches the NFC North with a win Sunday at Green Bay (3-11), the Cowboys would hold the wild-card tiebreaker on Minnesota based on strength of victory. If Dallas and Minnesota both win out, they would have the same conference record (8-4), and because they only play three common opponents, the next tiebreaker is strength of victory.

Incorrect, but same result... we do have 4 common opponents (DET, NYG, CAR, STL), but would also have the same record in those games (4 wins/1 loss) if 10-6 (however, won't matter cuz Minn will lose to Chicago so they should be 9-7)

If the Cowboys win out, they will hold the tiebreaker on Atlanta because of their conference record (6-4), which would end up 8-4. The Falcons currently are 5-5 against the NFC with games at Tampa Bay and against Carolina.
The Cowboys would not win a tiebreaker with the Chicago Bears if they should lose out and Minnesota wins out, which would give the Vikings the NFC North title. The Bears already have clinched a better NFC record than the Cowboys.

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And if the Cowboys should finish in a three-or-more-team tiebreaker that involves the Commanders, they are eliminated immediately, because if teams involved in a multiple-team tiebreaker are from the same division, then the division tiebreaker takes first precedence, and losing both games to Washington aces out the Cowboys before they even stack up against the other teams.

Not entirely accurate... see below
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That last "tiebreaker" really stinks, because it means if we end up tied with Washington, both Dallas and Washington can't be wild cards, we are eliminated automatically, no matter what tiebreakers we might hold over other teams. I never heard of that one before!

That is true if only the 6th seed is available... if both the 5th and 6th seeds are available then the tiebreakers would first be applied to the 5th seed... and if the Commanders win that seed, then it is possible that Dallas would hold the tiebreaker over any remaining teams for the last spot.

Basically the Cowboys need to win out, and get a bit of help!

The above scenarios were from the official website.

Larry

Which Official Website?! Many were wrong!

 

[DallasDomination]

THAT is incorrect... WON/LOSS % vs. common opponents would be equal (TB vs. DET, SF, CAR, WAS = 3 wins 2 losses & DAL vs. DET, SF, CAR, WAS = 3 wins 2 losses), so it would move to SOV (Strength of Victory) in which Cowboys holds a huge lead on TB.





Which Official Website?! Many were wrong!

Mickey Spagnola said yesterday that DAllas would lose a tie breaker to Tampa Bay.


IF I'm not mistaken it first goes to Conferance wins-Loses, in witch Tampa holds a better record, correct?

 

[Chuck 54]

It's the last paragraph I put some asterisks around.....



Tampa Bay (9-5) currently owns the first wild-card spot, which leaves four 8-6 teams - Washington, Minnesota, Dallas and Atlanta - battling for the sixth seed.

Here's where the Cowboys currently stand in that crowded NFC playoff picture. The following may or may not cause dizziness: Tampa Bay will finish the season at home against Atlanta and New Orleans (3-11). If the Buccaneers and Cowboys both finish 10-6, Tampa Bay wins the tiebreaker because of a better common opponents records.
The Cowboys lost all potential tiebreakers with Washington after the Commanders swept the season series for the first time since 1995. The Cowboys need to win out and hope the Commanders split their final games against New York and at Philadelphia (6-6) since the Commanders advance by virtue of head-to-head in a tie.
If Chicago (10-4) clinches the NFC North with a win Sunday at Green Bay (3-11), the Cowboys would hold the wild-card tiebreaker on Minnesota based on strength of victory. If Dallas and Minnesota both win out, they would have the same conference record (8-4), and because they only play three common opponents, the next tiebreaker is strength of victory.
If the Cowboys win out, they will hold the tiebreaker on Atlanta because of their conference record (6-4), which would end up 8-4. The Falcons currently are 5-5 against the NFC with games at Tampa Bay and against Carolina.
The Cowboys would not win a tiebreaker with the Chicago Bears if they should lose out and Minnesota wins out, which would give the Vikings the NFC North title. The Bears already have clinched a better NFC record than the Cowboys.
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And if the Cowboys should finish in a three-or-more-team tiebreaker that involves the Commanders, they are eliminated immediately, because if teams involved in a multiple-team tiebreaker are from the same division, then the division tiebreaker takes first precedence, and losing both games to Washington aces out the Cowboys before they even stack up against the other teams.
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That last "tiebreaker" really stinks, because it means if we end up tied with Washington, both Dallas and Washington can't be wild cards, we are eliminated automatically, no matter what tiebreakers we might hold over other teams. I never heard of that one before!

Basically the Cowboys need to win out, and get a bit of help!

The above scenarios were from the official website.

Larry

To put it more succinctly:

Go Cowboys !!!

Go Giants !!!

Go Grossman !!!

 

[Jimz31]

Who cares about these scenarios...let's just do what we can and win.

 

[AdamJT13]

Mickey Spagnola said yesterday that DAllas would lose a tie breaker to Tampa Bay.

Mickey Spagnola is often wrong. And he's wrong about that, too.

IF I'm not mistaken it first goes to Conferance wins-Loses, in witch Tampa holds a better record, correct?

If we're both 10-6, we'd both be 8-4 in the NFC. If we're both 9-7, we'd both be 7-5 in the NFC. So no, that's not correct.

If it gets to a 10-6 tiebreaker against Tampa Bay, we should win based on strength of victory.

 

[Michael88Irvin]

Mickey Spagnola is often wrong. And he's wrong about that, too.



If we're both 10-6, we'd both be 8-4 in the NFC. If we're both 9-7, we'd both be 7-5 in the NFC. So no, that's not correct.

If it gets to a 10-6 tiebreaker against Tampa Bay, we should win based on strength of victory.

Absolutely Correct!

 

[InDakWeTrust]

All this playoff scenarios make me dizzy and give me a headache. So basically we have to win out to even have a chance for the wild card?

 

[Funxva]

So best possible scenario is for us to win, skins loose, and atlanta loose?

 

[Ashwynn]

Man, seems like for every person you talk to has a totally different playoff tiebreaker system. Till Adam clarifies it, or the NFL says were out, I just dont know anymore. :rake: :storm: :cry2:

 

[Nors]

I'm still mad they canceled my home playoff tickets....

 

[MikeD17]

If Dallas Wins Out And The Redkins Lose At Home To The Giants Or On The Road In Philly , Were In The Playoffs. Thats The Best Chance We Have.

 

[Michael88Irvin]

If Dallas Wins Out And The Redkins Lose At Home To The Giants Or On The Road In Philly , Were In The Playoffs. Thats The Best Chance We Have.

Commanders OR Tampa just need to lose ONE... that's it (and we win out), doesn't matter if Atlanta wins or not, we hold the tiebreaker over them... however, they help us by beating Tampa.

 

[MikeD17]

im more confident in the giants beating the skins then the falcons beating tampa in there building.



but who knows .....but im still having a hard time seeing us beating the panthers after last weeks debacle.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

Mickey Spagnola is often wrong. And he's wrong about that, too.



If we're both 10-6, we'd both be 8-4 in the NFC. If we're both 9-7, we'd both be 7-5 in the NFC. So no, that's not correct.

If it gets to a 10-6 tiebreaker against Tampa Bay, we should win based on strength of victory.

If we are 9-7 because we lost to Carolina, we'd lose the common games tiebreaker 3-2, 2-3.... If we beat Carolina and lose to St. Louis, then it would go to the next tiebreaker.... SOV

 

[AdamJT13]

If we are 9-7 because we lost to Carolina, we'd lose the common games tiebreaker 3-2, 2-3.... If we beat Carolina and lose to St. Louis, then it would go to the next tiebreaker.... SOV

Right. If we finish 10-6, we have a good chance to make it. If we finish 9-7, we might need a miracle.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

if we took care of business, this means squat

we have our backs against the wall, and only ourselves to blame for it